US prosecutors to seek death penalty for Luigi Mangione

Bizzare. Americans are seriously crazy. It's a monarchy really, it's so in your face, like a bad comedy.
- We are dumb and crazy a bad mix.
- It’s a monarchy really
  Yes, this is actually a much more helpful way to think about Trump's approach to presidency. Here is Dr David Smith from the United States Studies Centre explaining this in a recent episode of PEP (excellent in-depth American politics podcast from Australia).
- No, it's just that the south hates everything about the rest of America, and have done since we took their slaves away
  They support anything that hurts everyone else, or as they call it: 'Owning the libs'.
- I mean, this really isn’t new for us.

But what if he runs for office? Then he can't be convicted, right?
- Start the campaign now for President in 2256. Wouldn't want the judges to look politically biased, they'll have to hold off on sentencing until after the election.
- Lol imagine thinking these freaks give a fuck about being hypocrites.

Maybe we should put the prosecutors to death instead.
- Obligatory, I do not condone violence per lemmys rules, or whatever.
  Agreed. This might be the only method to save us. Rule of law doesn't work, we are owned by the billionaire class. Bring out the guillotines for these bootlickers. Might be the only way we get free.
  Free Luigi.
  Fuck this aryan Pam bondi cunt and these prosecutors.
  
  I'm still waiting for people to get mad enough to use drones for political violence. Like shit, Ukraine can make an effective FPV for like 50 USD from what I've seen
  Imagine if Luigi dropped a grenade on this dude while just sitting in Central Park.
  It's gonna be a good time.
  
  Oh, we're not supposed to condone violence against monsters who hurt others for greed here either? Well, dang. What if I do though?
  
  Technically it’s not a rule of Lemmy but the instance rules that forbid this.
  We are indeed owned by the billionaire class. It’s their country. We live in it.
  
  Evidently this researcher found that peaceful resistance movements have been more successful in bringing democratic governments in their nations against tyranny than violent ones that usually instilled more extreme governments.
  https://youtu.be/YJSehRlU34w
- Storm the Bastille
- That’s neither a funny joke nor a serious idea of any worth.

https://beyondcourts.org/sites/default/files/2022-07/Jury-Nullification-Toolkit-English_0.pdf
Everyone should read about jury nullification and spread it everywhere.
- You know they'll disqualify anyone who might even hint at knowledge of jury nullification from the jury pool. They'll be selected on their ability to convict solely.
  
  Then they'll need the knowledge and a decent poker face 🤷
  
  Thats why EVERYONE needs to know it. You can't disqualify everyone.

You want martyrs?? 'Cause that's how you get martyrs!
- Luigi Mangione has been the only thing uniting the left and right in the US. This is one of the few things that has managed to break through Fox News propaganda. Killing a legendary hero isn’t the win the GOP thinks it is.
- Saint Luigi Mangione
- Have you seen how long it takes someone to get through death row? If convicted, he will sit for 20 years. Far far beyond the current political discourse.
  If he gets convicted, that will be a stink for a while. But by the time they kill him, he will be a distant memory.
  Martyrs die when the timing is optimal. If it isnt the right time, they are just a name on a gravestone. And we have plenty of those.
  
  Trump has actually speeded up the process through executive orders
- You want martyrs??
  I mean, yeah that'd be cool. What else do we have at this point

- New idea for a ~~band name~~ law firm name:
  23andPlea
- Must be 23 peasant than one ceo.

I would love to be a juror in this case.
- Same

Nullify.

Evidently Pam Bondi has financial lobbyist interests for the GEO group. They own a bunch of private prisons and mental health facilities.
I wonder if we could get creative to bring down the profits of this group in retaliation of her idiotic direction.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEO_Group
- That's fucked up that a prosecutor has lobbyist interests in private prisons.
  
  She’s an evil, soulless vessel of meat

This administration is too stupid to realize they’re sitting on a powder keg? By all means light the match…..let’s see what happens
- My current tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory is that’s exactly what they’re banking on. They’ll draw the trial out until right before the midterm election… Then Trump will use the resulting riots to declare martial law and cancel the upcoming midterms, so he doesn’t lose control of congress. After he has cancelled the election, he’ll make a final push to clean house, and will start ousting liberal congress members by accusing them of being riot conspirators.
  The Mangione Riots will be Trump’s Reichstag Fire.
  
  Not if y'all aren't bitches about it.
  
  It’s not that far fetched.
- They’re not smart people. This would require the ability to critically think and reason with facts. They’re brainwashed by the billionaire backed right wing propaganda machine. Women/brown people=bad. Billionaires/White Men =good

That's seems pretty damn ballsy of them since unless they are extremely confident in the jury selection it's practically guaranteed to result in a hung jury if they know that finding him guilty will result in the most severe verdict.
- I’m sure that will be as corrupt as everything else this administration touches
- Yeah there's no better reason to use jury nullification than when government wants to kill a guy for political reasons.
- Federal juries are way, way easier to tilt towards the prosecution, and the judge has far more power, even assuming he isn't a Trump appointee.

They can’t even prove he did it
- Nobody did it, the guys head just did that.
  
  Exactly, he had spontaneous lead spawn pop up inside him. Happens every day to assholes

They wanna make martyrs now?

Not at all surprising and it wouldn't have been any different under the last administration. From the whole "rule of law" perspective you can't really not go after somebody who committed premeditated murder on film just because his target was someone that people didn't like. What the jurors decide to do is a whole different can of worms (although if you ask me to make a prediction, I think they most likely find him guilty).
- Democrats and Republicans alike banded against Luigi. It’s Citizens United talking.
- The previous administration probably wouldn't take on a random murder case just because the victim was rich.
  
  This was a high profile case that was all over the news for weeks. And frankly it looks like a slam dunk for the prosecution. The Biden Justice Department absolutely would've brought federal charges.
- Can you imagine Merrick Garland saying this?
  Luigi Mangione's murder of Brian Thompson — an innocent man and father of two young children — was a premeditated, cold-blooded assassination that shocked America,"
  "After careful consideration, I have directed federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty in this case as we carry out President Trump's agenda to stop violent crime and Make America Safe Again."
  
  The first part? Abso-fucking-lutely.
  
  Shocked is a strange way to say excited
- The administration doesn't have anything to do with this.
  
  Not sure how you figure that. Trump is not exactly hands off with the Justice Department.

Even if the actual killer stuck again, hitting another CEO and then confessed on live TV for both murders, people would still think (and I can say the name here) that Luigi is guilty.
Y'all are mental across the pond
- Yup, they got the wrong guy.
  
  What's this?
  Spot the monobrow?
  
  Wow. There's a huge disparity between the brows on those two. No matter how blurry the first pics are, the thickness of Luigi's brows would be noticeable. The person in that camera footage definitely doesn't have thick eyebrows like Luigi :/
  
  When was the bottom photo taken?

They are going to give him a laptop, right?!?

The state wants to keep its monopoly on violence.

There’s a guy who killed 23 people in a Walmart in El Passo in 2022. Got charged with hate crimes on account of…he’s openly racist and said that’s why he did it.
That guy just got a plea deal to avoid the death penalty.
Nobody should identify the criminal justice system in America as anything else but a mechanism for protecting the rich.

Seems very short-sighted on their part. They’ve made the penalty for taking out 1 the same as taking out 100. They’ve also highlighted the disparity between punishments for crimes against average people vs the rich and powerful.

Oh hell no

Can't wait to passively observe this so go down.

Trumps agenda? Hah.