Maybe it will implode?

There's absolutely no way a space hotel will be operational in 2027.
But it's more likely than public healthcare in the USA in 2027.
- I mean maybe some billionaire will convince (pay) NASA to dock some capsule with a sleeping bag to the ISS and other billionaires can go sleep in that sleeping bag. It is technically a hotel, but it will definitively not be like in the picture...
  
  you can already make the argument that both things could be cool and good
  charge 1 billion and put it into healthcare
  but that aint going happen everyone in America knows that
- If some idiot breaks every rule like with the submarine, maybe they'll get one up there. And then kill everyone in it.
  
  They can get their nephew who's good at the "space games" to pilot the ship too!
  Cheap bastards won't even chip in for a decent HOTAS or a hall effect modded elite controller I bet.
  
  Since it’s going to be rich clowns that make the trip up there, I’m fine with both happening.
  
  Can we send Musk?
  
  This will inevitably happen one day, and yeah it could happen for 2027 I guess.
- How many seats do democrats need to make a singlepayer option without Republican help?
  Supermajority in both Senate and House?
  Genuine question, I'm not overly familiar with the nitpicks.
  
  Majority in House, supermajority of 60 in the Senate, practically speaking.
  PROBLEM:
  Not all Democrats are onboard with universal healthcare. Hence the fiasco in 2009.
  
  Bare minimum 60 in the Senate and 218 in the house, a long with a president that supports it. But given that many Democrats take money from health insurance companies and have a vested interest in stopping universal healthcare, you'd probably need a supermajority (2/3) in both houses to pass it, as some Dems will inevitably vote against it.
  
  They had it for about 50 days in 2009.
  That's when we got the ACA.
  
  I don't know, but first they need a leader who's actually interested in singlepayer in the first place.
  
  Obama could have gotten it done if Dems had the willpower in that short window. They'll get another chance at some point. Will they jump on it next time? I'm not sure. Some of them are taking that same billionaire money.
- USA healthcare is dying at your machine right after telling a co-worker you're "gonna give it another day or two."

It's pretty much impossible for something to implode in space. You're already in a vacuum so there is no ambient pressure to press on an object.
- Don't ruin it for me.
  
  It can however explode, since there's more pressure on the inside.
  
  Don't listen to him, I have a Miele vacuum and there's loads of pressure in it
  
  It's pretty disgusting to hope that people die just because they are rich. In the real world, that makes you just a trashy edgelord. On Lemmy or Reddit I'm sure you'll have a positive balance of updoots though.
  You could for example, wish the rich people would donate large sums of their fortune to help the needy, instead of wishing that they die.

The solution is so simple. Vote overwhelming for progressive, and get rid of the centrists and Republicans.
We'd have free, universal healthcare within a couple of years.
- First you need overwhelming numbers to join the Democrat party to make sure a progressive candidate gets leadership of the party. Otherwise it will just be Hillary Clintons beating out Bernie Sanders every time.
  
  For real for real, the sheer level of conspiracism and explaining away the fact that Boomers will actually go out and fucking vote.
  It can't be that the people who disagree with them go out and do the one "praxis" they have to be dragged out kicking and screaming to do even for the guy they claim to support, no, clearly the DNC is responsible for Bernie losing a race he got less votes in!
  
  Well... At this point boomers will soon be losing their death grip in the party because of attrition. They're getting old. Millennials will soon outnumber them in terms of likely voters.
- Assuming USA, it unfortunately means doing this in the primaries. Good luck getting people to show up to those and vote progressive.
  
  Tell me about it. We could have had Bernie.
- Simple isn't always easy.
- The country founded on genocide because the UK didn't want them doing slavery is never going to allow that to happen.

No it won't.
Not in 2027
Not in 2037
These projects are little more than scams, just like Mars 1; pure nonsense
- Maybe 2127 if we did not regressed to the stone age

It flies like a Hilton, but handles like a Motel-Six.
- This sounds like a line from The Simpson’s.
  I can see Gil saying this at the used space hotel dealership.
  
  Not far off: Futurama. "She's built like a steakhouse, but she handles like a bistro."
  
  Close - Futurama

The only consolation is that a billionaire that stays up there has a high probability of exploding in a fiery death. It helps me sleep at night knowing that.
- Like that duche that imploded in the sea. News was freaking out, meanwhile I was like "nothing of value was lost"
  
  I'm not so sure about that, that kid didn't want to be there. Everyone else thought, yeah.
- I think it's wrong to want a fiery death, even for a billionaire. It'd be a tragedy no matter how you spin it. A completely boring unworthy death though? Even on a space hotel, is much more fitting.
  
  If there's a point where apathy is worthy of death, is there a point where extreme apathy is worthy of an extreme death?
  
  Our opinions differ and that is ok. You may shed a tear when Elon dies in his own man made space coffin. I won't even lift a finger to say goodbye.
  
  Quite frankly, I don't get wishing death on billionaires. Most people I see saying this are against the death penalty. So why are they seemingly for it when it's billionaires? I want billionaires to not exist anymore, but the medium through which I want that to be achieved is by taking the vast, vast majority of their money and throwing them in jail for any wrongdoing they did to gain said money.

I think those that can afford a space hotel do not worry about healthcare.

no no billionaires only implode on makeshift submersibles, in space they explode

So this is how Elysium starts?

yeah and scientists have been "just a few years away" from preventing the aging process for about 25 years now. I have a feeling it's not going to happen in 2027
- It could, but it wont look like that. It will be a single room capsule with lunchables and adult diapers.
- Not in 2037 either. Setting up the ISS took well over a decade to build, a station like that will cost billions, if not trillions and will require decades of cooperated work.
  Ain't gonna happen in 2047 either. Try STARTING this around 2057, perhaps.
  
  There's no technological barrier to starting it now we have all the capabilities, there's only a financial constraint.
  SpaceX has significantly reduced lift cost into space but it would indeed cost trillions. Current lift capacity isn't saturated but they would definitely need the additional capacity of their next gen rocket to service it and then multiples of those. Unless Boeing and Blue Origin get their shit together.
  Lift capacity becomes less critical if metals mining and refining in the asteroids gets up and running, then you can much less expensively move material from asteroids to the space hotel. That's def decades away though, there's tech issues with that still unresolved
  TL;DR start project in 2027 ? Sure if they can find the money, definitely take decades to finish with currently planned lift capacity though. Needs asteroid mining to be viable

Everyone: That’s impossible. Billionaires: No, it’s necessary.
- "Cooper, there's no time for health care!"

Lol 2027? Never gonna happen
- Yea I don't know who the fuck wrote this article or who told them anything about space travel but there is no damn way this is operating in 3 Years time lol. It takes months to plan launches. On top of that, you don't just hire a bunch of construction workers to put it together.
  
  Oceangate: Remix!
  
  It takes years. And I'm fairly sure this is in reference to what Axiom Space is undertaking (https://www.axiomspace.com/). This project is past critical design review. Taking from NASA's industry standard project scheduling perspective, that places it about halfway to completion, project wise.
  https://blogs.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/212/2013/06/1018616main_Image1.jpg
  Edit: For the record, I have no clue if that puts it on target for 2027, just adding some context.

- Nestlé has entered the chat

I saw this episode of For All Mankind already. It doesn't go well for the hotel.

Let them go there and prevent them from coming back.
- Just give 'em a good push sun-ward

We get closer and closer to a dystopian cyberpunk future.
- We already live in one
  
  Healthcare is expensive, people are homeless, people are killing each other. Yup.
- That happened a while ago, we just have inferior VR to most Cyberpunk fiction and the fashion was 40 years ahead of the tech in the 80s/90s.
- It's the dystopia I've been waiting for since age 15 but now that it approaches and I'm a grown up, I'm starting to get cold feet.

only available for billionaires!

Don't worry the Vermicious Cnids will take care of that one for us on the house.

Why not both? Por que no los dos?
- Movie makes a billion dollars: Wow, I guess I should see that movie.
  Something gets done in space: What about my needs?
  
  Space tourism is very very bad for the environment. Let's work on the space elevator first.

Republicans want billionaires and wealthy corporations to be untaxed because they earned every cent so that exclusive property can be built, like this space hotel, that the republican rabble will never set foot in. Then they’ll thank god when the space debris takes out half their neighborhood but spares their home.

I mean, I think it could actually be a good thing to drive innovation in space travel.
- Sure, we'll need to escape earth eventually anyway to avoid the looming extinction event.
  
  Even given all likely extinction events, earth is still less hostile to human life than anywhere else we know of.
  Even after some full scale nuclear war, I think you’re still better off here.
  
  Exactly. The better we get at launching into space and making habitats, the sooner we can escape.

My favorite version of this the lady is like spouting off a bunch of silicon valley buzzwords and the guy on the right is "healthcare pls....."

Is that Elysium?

Lol

Get your ticket to that wheel in space while there's time, the fix is in!

First ever homemade surface-to-orbit missile, 2028

It's the got damn death star Martha!!

What billionaire wants to be stuck in a penthouse apartment?
Even if it was the nicest space like penthouse

Okay, now we know this is bs. However, the neat part is that if we humans ever really start living in space, then such centrifugal force induced gravity habitats would be the most likely way we would live. Living on/in a celestial body like they show in scifi is the least likely scenario.
- The wheel would have to be enormous or you will get motion sick because your heads angular velocity is different from your feed and even moving around slowly and turning your head would cause you to throw up. The wheel would probably have to be a few kilometers in diameter. Completely impractical if you ask me.
  
  Naah... Building megastructures in space is a piece of cake. Literally. We would be in microgravity, correct? Hence, while building the structure, we would just have to ensure that every unit area of the surface of this cylinder can resist a centrifugal force of 1G. This is akin to building a very large single story building.
  The hurdle here is getting the raw material for building this. We would need lunar mines for this to be possible at least in the Terran/Lunar orbit. Now, establishing mines on the moon would be complicated initially. However, once we do that, the universe is ours, literally.

Who cares what the poor plebs want? We just need to find new ways of monetising their existence.

Is Musk doing it? Don’t look up.

Priorities. Good job.

What if we got all the billionaires and politicians to experience the Overview Effect? Would that be worthwhile?

Realistic Criteria

Free healthcare only for those saving Earth from Aliens - new transformers movie

Company: no taxes and no law out there. You can finally look down on everyone at this planet at the same time. Billionaires: shut up and take my money!

ISS is going to burn up in the atmosphere soon (on purpose), already degraded. Space is a harsh environment.

I'm confused, this isn't being funded by the government who would be responsible for US healthcare is it?
Surely a private company spending money on this to make money from the tourists is good for the space industry in general as it will help with data on building longer term space habitations for people not willing to go though the level of acclimatisation that astronauts do.
- I assume the implication is that a level of wealth disparity that could allow tourists to holiday in space while other people can't get essential medicines... is bad.
  
  But essential medicines are free! Where do you live? Syria or something?
- Don't bring your logic to Lemmy. We want to kill the billionaires, have healthcare and live by Lenin, Marx and Mao's law. Begone, liberal!