He voted for Trump. Now his wife sits in an ICE detention center.

Feel sorry for her. Maybe she'll find a better partner.

"fucking leopards..."

100% his fault for making his wife suffer in anyway in a detention center.

Crazy how many people voted for this guy only to be deported by the very man they voted for 🤣🤣🤣
Americans are acc some wallards man.

Damn, it's almost enough to make you think every single Trump supporter is an ignorant idiot absolutely devoid of any concept of forethought.

Aren't these people guys with guns who fantasize about fighting tyranny? Well this is your fucking chance to shine, sweetheart!

Those damn leopards at it again.

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency.
I have to assume this guy was aware of this. So if you vote to have "illegals" deported, how is this not exactly what you voted for?
They really don't like having to think about things do they?
I wonder if he told at all her he votes for people that want her gone.
- The overwhelming majority of 'illegal' residents are visa overstays.
  
  Like Melania Trump! She overstayed her tourism visa, while also working while on a tourism visa.

I will never not be amazed at the hatred and stupidity at the heart of MAGA
- Did you ever learn about say... The Jewish Holocaust? The Rwanandan Genocide? The Palestinian Genocide?
  Hate can, and does, go very deep, and is very easy to tap for those who look to do so, for their own ends.

There are easier ways to get divorced... just saying

Trump's social security hack!....pretend to be an immigrant and you'll get fed for life!.... So very not lol, but that's what my wandering mind does when I'm not using it.

I wonder if she knew he was actively supporting the politics of people that hate her.
- LOTS of immigrants are anti-immigrant once they think they've made it in safely. Makes them feel better about themselves I guess.
  
  I'm gonna go with probably not.
- She probably thought "I'm one of the good ones! I LOVE TRUMP! He will kick out those dirty Mexicanos!!!!"

It's almost as if being a racist douchebag is bad for everyone........

The one bit that’s not being mentioned: they detained her from a flight from Puerto Rico, which is a US protectorate. Does that mean flights from other US states are now being examined by border and customs?
- They always were.
  If you are within 100 miles of an international port, which includes international airports, not just water ports, or border crossings, your rights are non-existent, and can be ignored by law enforcement at their discretion.
  https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone
- Apparently... yes...
- ICE is switching resources away from terrorism towards attacking anti-genocide protestors.
  
  Anti-genocide protestors are terrorists. Didn't you hear the president. Anyone he likes is an honorable patriot as long as he likes him. If he dislikes you, you're now a terrorist and heading to Gitmo. /S
  
  They've never really been focused on terrorism. It was always about going after brown people.

Dumbass.

These clowns always pull up the ladder after they "get theirs." Marry an immigrant and think you're safe? Vote to get rid of the ones you don't like via a Dictator. Dictators turn on their supporters sooner or later, for them it was sooner. Wait until he comes for the guns. He's the only president that has said guns should be taken away.
E: Getting lots of gateway timeouts for .world, anyone else? I'm in the US.

These are the people who truly deserve this though. Not her, but her fucking dunce of a partner. Hopefully he realizes how hateful and nasty the Republican Party is. If not, he’s just another waste of resources.

Well, can’t say trump isn’t keeping my the promises he made when on campaign
- Imagine being an immigrate and marrying a Trump supporter. Should we feel sorry for her? Because I feel no sympathy for him.
  
  People usually believe that politics is something that comes after personal relationships.
  
  Imagine being an immigrate and marrying a Trump supporter.
  Imagine being an immigrant and marrying a Trump. FIFY
  Not even blue steel could help you then.

This reads like the post Brexit articles. What do people expect to happen when they vote for something?
- People got too used to being able to cosplay as oppressed victims of the state despite decades of minor policy changes between Democrat or Republican administrations.
  All Americans got to enjoy conjuring any abstract worldview they wanted with the freedom of knowing they can say what they want whenever they want, never feel repression and just go home and watch tv. Maga got to pretend they were actively oppressed by the state which let's them justify supporting real state oppression towards people they don't like.
  I imagine a lot of maga dorks voted for this, expected performative moves but a mostly stable continuity of the American center. I don't know if they'll ever admit it but I bet they are going to regret this president keeping his promises when they are stripped of all of their rights and their safety nets. The time for hyperbolics and hysterics are over, fascism is here, they are going to get ground down with the rest.
- I didn't think leopards would eat my face
  
  "I'm a good person and this was only supposed to happen to bad people" - every Far-Right muppet when it turns out that the in-group is a lot smaller than they thought and they ain't in it.
  
  "And then they came for the libs joking about leopards, but there was no one left to speak up..."

Good. It sucks for her, but Trump voters don't deserve to have happy lives.
- What about biden voters? Lib genocide gets a pass?
  
  Of course he doesn't, but we are talking about the Here and Now.
  
  Friend you're on the wrong instance. .ml has a spot open for you, all you have to do is cry about "the libs" like a Trumper and you're in.

She overstayed her visa. And he should have known about it. Maybe this situation will urge people to take it seriously and take steps sooner.
"Documented" lol once her visa expired, she became "undocumented".
While the liberals are torching and destroying Tesla's because they think they have a right to do it, they're making heinous comments about people because it makes them feel better about their shitty immoral choices.
Keep crying.
- Has anyone been caught for the Tesla fires? How do you know it’s liberals and not insurance fraud?
  
  My bet's on natural causes.
- Maybe this situation will urge people to take it seriously and take steps sooner.
  She literally was taking care of it.
  
  After she overstayed her visa.

I hate how many people are this fucking stupid.
- hateful*
  
  *hateful and stupid

I'd feel sorry for the guy but that would be both insincere and incorrect. After all, he got exactly what he voted for.
- EDIT: Sorry this wasn't meant to be a novel. If I had more time it would have been shorter.
  I understand not feeling bad for THE GUY. But you should absolutely feel bad for his wife. Moral values should not be conditional. I could have an undocumented immigrant cus me out and say "TRUMP IS AWESOME" and I'd still not want that guy to be deported for no reason. I know its a slightly satisfying "you got what was coming to you". But being leftist in any sense means staying true to your convictions and not falling for this type of reactionary response no matter how satisfying it is.
  I've used this as an example before.
  I want even KKK members to get free healthcare in the US. Because as much as I hate KKK members my leftist principles tell me that right wing reactionary ideas thrive in poor material conditions. Conditions on these fundamental leftist principles will not stand. The "got what was coming to them" response is absolutely a reactionary idea. These are conditions of revenge and not conditions of justice. They have no place in left wing principles.
  You can absolutely enjoy the slight sense of irony and satisfaction from this snippet. But, at the end of the day, you're not saying anything different then "let's deport these immigrants because X" just like the right is. Its the same as saying "these brown people deserve to be treated badly because they didn't vote for Harris". It's insane reactionary ideas masking itself as leftism.
  
  But you should absolutely feel bad for his wife.
  His wife likely was "One of the good ones, not the dirty Mexicanos that Trump is going to clean out of this country!!!!"
  When you have 9 people eating dinner with a nazi, you have 10 nazis eating dinner.
  
  It's more like a guilty pleasure when you have no control over the situation anymore to see the people who chose to fuck it up suffer the most consequences. When given the chance, I would never let something like this happen, but since it happened outside of my control I think it's fair to bask in the irony
  
  You have every right (see what I did there?) to feel that way, but feeling some degree of comfort and karma that bad people also get bad things happen to them instead of bad things just being limited to the victims of capitalism, is just a simple sensorial reaction to the reality of the world and not in any way some sort of "anti-left" idea. In fact, wishing the best wishes to the boot that's stomping on you is probably the worst things to do, since it teaches conformity in the structure of the class system. To fight the imbalance of power you have to want to fight, and historically speaking spite is among the best motivators there ever is.
  Also lol, good work trying to equate me with those right-wing KKK nutjobs! Yeah! Because there is literally no difference between wishful thinking, and actually doing material damage to someone because of your Trump dogma! Right?
  Geez, what tiktok does to media literacy these days...
  But you do you. I'll continue to cry a crocodile tear for the guy.
  (Yes, the wife deserves a real tear, but that does not mean I can't cry a fake one for free)
- After all, he got exactly what he voted for.
  This is why it's best not to vote.
  
  He would have gotten the same by not voting. By not voting you are supporting the candidates that least want you to vote. Those who are the most harmful to you.
  He could have gotten something different by voting for someone who was not against him.

Talk about wanting the cake, and eating it...

Maybe a controversial opinion but I don’t think anyone belongs in an ICE detention centre regardless of who their spouse voted for. I don’t think this is funny.
- Haven't you heard? Empathy is a sin and the weakness of Western civilization. It's what a true conservative would want.
  
  Empathy and goodwill aren't infinite, like any resource they can be depleted. I really cannot muster enough fucks to give about someone who voted for that turd a second time. Feel sorry for his wife, though.
- Yeah, I agree, it's not funny, it's a fucking nightmare, and I hate that so many people are dumb enough to believe the restrained version of Trump the media sells and not the words coming out of Trump's idiot mouth.
  
  As someone who doesn't live in tge USA, I don't feel empathy for everyone who voted for Trump or didn't vote at all because eQuAl SiDeS bAd. Project 2025 and deportation plans were known before the elections so you brought this down on yourself. It really sucks for everyone else though, within USA and its (former) allied countries.
- Who am I to prevent a fash from locking up a fash?
  
  What evidence do you have that this lady is fascist?
  
  I reckon, "first they came" would be applicable here, however the realist in me says they would continue to go and lock up non fascists

"They're hurting the wrong people!!"

FAFO

Maybe it's just me... But as much as Trump is a terrible person, I don't think his fans should be put in camps, deported, etc. Same with fans of genocide joe.
- I have no issue with fash bashing fash. Thins their numbers, and makes it easier for the rest of us.
- Yikes at this being downvoted. You're literally just saying "Haha it's ok to deport people illegally as long as they voted for Trump!" is a bad take.
  Like, you can enjoy the irony and still have some actual principles.
- I'm sure your feelings matter to the Trump administration that's building concentration camps and deporting people.

Good. I hope he's fucking devastated. I hope his entire world is fucking crumbling. Everyone with three working braincells or more knew exactly what would happen if we let the christonationalist fascists have total control of the government, and pieces of subhuman trash like him willingly made it happen.

I hate that as americans were so stupid we have to learn like this because we can't hear people out before it gets to this point.
- Well that's what decades of destroying education will do
  
  There need to be some kind of actual education before it can be destroyed.
- Like I believe one of your founding fathers Benjamin Franklin said: "Experience holds a dear school, but fools learn from no other"
  
  He would have been pretty nonplussed by our current batch of fools who can't even learn from experience.
- I had a Scottish chick in Edinburgh tell me that I was the only American she enjoyed talking to. I didn't realize just how poorly we were viewed overseas until I went myself.
  
  The amazing thing about this is that Americans who travel are on average a lot more open-minded and intelligent than those who don't. And we still make a terrible impression.
  
  I didn’t realize just how poorly we were viewed overseas
  We are poorly viewed by intelligent beings here too.
- People here don't even think. I feel like most people in my life barely understand they exist. They are like walking products that work for the evil that created them.
- Haha, you think they learn.
- they just refuse to listen.

You shouldn't have to have it happen to you before you realize the impact it has on others, but that's what we're up against.
- Honestly I think this is part of why conservatives like homeschooling so much; being in a close classroom environment teaches most people empathy as they quickly realize they are not the center of the teacher or anyone else's universe.
  Conservatives want to deprive us the lesson of empathy.
- Empathy is a marker of intelligence. I strongly doubt the education of conservatives. Hence the need for first-hand experience
- Empathy takes a little thought and many people just can't think.
  
  And there's this whole war on empathy thing going on for a while.
  
  I once saw it described on Lemmy that Conservatives have sympathy but no empathy.
- From the article I don’t get a sense he is at all questioning his vote. He feels his case is special and the government messed up. For him. She’s vetted, so it’s ok. The others deserve what they are getting.
  
  Yep. Brackets by me:
  [Him and his wife] have been thinking a lot about [his] vote for Trump.
  "I knew they were cracking down," he said. "I guess I didn’t know how it was going down."
  He imagined the administration would target people who snuck over the border and weren't vetted
  But his wife, "they know who she is and where she came from," he said. "They need to get the vetting done and not keep these people locked up. It doesn’t make any sense."
  The dumbfuck doesn't show any contrition at all, he just says oops I didn't know. When this topic came up in the interview, he didn't admit any regret or that he put himself (and his wife) in this position - he just says that the government is wrong to do this to him/his wife, and that they should go after other illegals instead. What a piece of shit.
- My sister in law's family are all El Salvadorian refugees in Houston. Everyone under 50 are citizens now, but las abuelitas are not. They were all massive Trump supporters hoping that he will kick out "all the illegals" but are convinced that their grandparents wont be deported, and that they might be able to bring in more family.
  Juxtapose that to my family, where my English mom was naturalized 20 years ago after coming to the US on a green card. My family have always been pro-immigrarion since we would never dream of denying someone the same opportunity that we were given. We are all ao flabbergasted by it, but they all love Bukele as well, so i guess it shouldn't be a surprise.
- This is the problem endemic with the GOP voter mindset as a whole. They lack any shred of compassion and only care about themselves. The point of a society is shared burden. If you don't want to love your neighbor, go live in the woods

These shithead said out loud what they would do - so he is mad because he voted for what trump said he would do. What a dipshit. Sorry, you don't get s Oops this time.

"but... it shouldn't have affected ME, you know?"
- Right because my situation is special. I’m special and these laws don’t apply to me. @shithead I’ve voted for you 3 times, please help rectify this mistake.
  
  How ironic would it be if he pressured his illegal immigrant wife to vote for t too 🤔
- Another dumbass who still hasn't figured it out.

Another fucking idiot whose ignorance helped inflict Trump on us.

- Yes, go ahead feeling completely satisfied and smug. I'm sure leopards would never eat the face of lib. Your vote will protect you!!! d'oh...
  
  Are you crying?
- Heey I didn’t think they’d eat my face

Hold the fuck up, she was already OVERSTAYING her Visa and these idiots thought it was a good idea to TRAVEL? Nah they both got what they fucking deserved. It doesn't matter that you're awaiting your residency application, you have already passed your exit date, why the fuck would you be traveling for your honeymoon
Edit: I'm literally standing in the airport awaiting my fiance's return from Mexico right now, this shit makes all the people who actually read their paperwork and follow the rules, look bad when they get lumped in with these idiots.
- Being in an international relationship, I'm sure you understand how tricky and stressful some of these paperwork matters can be. Just deciding what type of visa to apply for when you are in a relationship can be taxing.
  You are right that for the majority of people, the bureaucracy works as long as you file things correctly. They should have done it right from the start. But there are a lot of personal situations that can complicate it.
  As an aside, it is mind boggling to me the number of immigrants who wholeheartedly support Trump, even with family ties that are endangered by his actions.
  
  Warning, essay.
  Many many reasons for the immigrants who support him all of them bad reasons obviously.
  -White-Passing Hispanics, especially CDMX, Monterey within Mexico and outside, Argentina, Colombia, Brazil (obv. not the darker skinned Brazilians) etc. that can be seen by whites as "the good ones", and by the Hispanics themselves. These people, the ones who make a point to embrace the "whiteness" of their bloodline, allowing them to identify more with their European colonizers rather than the darker skinned natives, or even Mestizos (mixed race, though at this point most people are decedents of decedents of decedents of the original Mestizos). Their tie to that European "whiteness" somehow makes them better than those darker than themselves.
  -Machismo culture being deeply ingrained in many families causing them to "admire" a "strong" man. Not a single macho man is actually macho (except for Macho Man) under Machismo, it is a warped idea of what constitutes macho that idolizes the men and puts them up front as the default lead of any situation especially family just because they are male.
  -There is unfortunately, a STRONG sense of "I got mine" or pulling the ladder up behind you among many many immigrants, Hispanic or otherwise. This goes along with the sense of "well we did it so it can't be that hard", they fail to realize that yes, it may have been easy for you but for others it is not.
  -Last I can think of, the kids and grand-kids of immigrants. Many did not get taught about the struggles of their ancestors, or were taught and don't care, sometimes you just get a bad egg kids who doesn't give a shit about his heritage. Sometimes this comes from their feeling like an "other" when living in an area with a Hispanic minority. This can cause them to seek out belonging and feel resentment to their ancestors and heritage for bringing them there, for making them into a minority and grow some unhealthy selfhate, and then falling in with like minds who also hate the "others" making them into "one of the good ones." (ive types this term too many times today)
- Apparently she got stuck in the States when all the borders were closed during the pandemic, which seems pretty reasonable grounds for overstaying.
  But - she didn't leave when the borders re-opened. She had fallen in love and at some point she filed paperwork to normalize her status - though they're pretty coy about when they filled the papers, so I suspect that was done after the borders re-opened and she should have left.
  .
  I'm also going to point out what I haven't seen in any of the comments so far which is that, with ICE being pressured to increase the number of deportations, they're opting to go for low-hanging fruit. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean raiding places that they've known for decades are hiring illegal immigrants, arresting and prosecuting and imprisoning the owners and managers.
  It does mean that they're hanging out at at least some airports, and it sounds like they're running passenger lists ahead of time (because they knew exactly who to approach). I mean, why to go the trouble of driving out to some farm or factory in the middle of nowhere, trying to chase down people who know the area better than you ever will, when you can sit at a comfy air-conditioned desk and only bother to get up when the computer lets you know that your "target" is trying to check in for their flight?
  
  Agree completely, and to me when people like these two decide to do whatever they want because their love is "special", it shows ICE that hey, this is way easier and they'll focus more on these situations. This puts all the completely legal and above board immigrants in danger now.
- Nobody deserves to be punished for arbitrary political boundaries.
  That being said, it's satisfying to see the people supporting those boundaries get punished by them.
  
  I agree, but she and anyone else in her position have SIGNED paperwork in agreement with the terms that by X date you will leave the country. What the fuck else are we supposed to do if we just shrug and say oh well it's just a date. These two were blatantly attempting to trounce the laws and just do whatever they wanted.
- Exactly. Did my dude think he could Karen his way through Customs? Papers have to be in order with Biden or Trump, now it’s worse though because they detain your ass.
  
  You don't go through customs to go to Puerto Rico, since it's a US territory.

I pity Madam but I have little sympathy for Sir.
- I have little sympathy for Madame. She travelled ~~out of the country~~ to Puerto Rico for her honeymoon, knowing she overstayed on her visa. Given what had happened in the weeks leading up to them leaving the US last week, she really should have not gotten on that plane.
  
  The reason I sympathize with Madam is the same reason I sympathize with most migrants: they're not doing it to hurt the country they migrate to, they're trying to have a shot at a better life. I totally get what you're saying but that doesn't make her a bad person.
  Sir however is a dumbass: he did the very thing the guy he voted for said he would crack down on and now he's bitching and moaning... Well ya know, faces, leopards and all that.
  
  The stupidest thing she did was marry someone who would vote that way. She should have left his ass the second he cast that ballot, if not before.
  
  She went to Puerto Rico. Which is a US territory.

I honestly believe these idiots that voted for Trump somehow thought that they would be immune to his policies. He doesn't give a fuck about you.
- For sure. It's the classic:
- I know it’s been getting a lot of mileage on Lemmy lately, but:
  Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
  Wilholt’s Law
  He figured he was in the first group, and since conservatives tend to think women are property, he figured her being with him put her in that group too. Whoops.
  
  This is a really good read on these types of situations. He's a white guy and he thought that was enough. that means the rules don't apply to him. I think as we are trying to figure these people out we sometimes overcomplicate it and a lot of the times the reasons are really quite simple. Just like them.
- American exceptionalism
- They thought by bending the knee to Trump, they would be exempt from his bullshit. You're 100% right here. He doesn't give a fuck about Americans, their families or the down troddened.
  Trump only cares about Trump.
  
  And anyone with power or money that will kiss his butt.
- She definitely was not Muskinaire, that's one of the ways you can bend your illegally-legally.

Thoughts and prayers

The money the couple saved for a down payment on a home has evaporated into attorneys fees and savings to pay a bond for her release, if she's given that chance.
There's a silver lining to this. Think about all the high quality white collar jobs (lawyers) that this is supporting. Way to stimulate the economy, Trumpers! /s

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa ... Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, ...
"Supportive of stricter immigration policies," doesn't turn in his wife for violating existing immigration policies.
- "I got mine", he thought.
- "No, no, she's on of the good ones, not one of criminals, and she's with me."
- An american woman wouldn't put up with his shit. My brother is unfortunately a trumper, and he got a foreign wife because she is the only woman that will put up with his shit that a normal woman would have walked out of years ago.
  She slaves over him like a tradwife, raises his kids that isn't hers from the previous woman that walked away from his shit. But he's got joint custody.
  
  I understand this is (hopefully) not how you meant it, but opposing “foreign wife” to “normal woman” is a rather unfortunate choice of words.
- the way the media talks about immigration and trumps policies are very specific and very corrosive. most of us here having this conversation understand what's really at stake because we think about and analyze these things, but american media intentionally lets people who don't know think they know what they don't.
  let me explain.
  when donald trump talks about criminal aliens in our country, he means anyone born on foreign soil, born to foreign parents, or with citizenship somewhere else who has committed a crime. a crime to him is any breach of law. and he uses the terms "illegals" and "aliens" to distance people from their own humanity. but the media will cover it as he's only interested in criminals. you know, like drug kingpins, traffickers, gun runners. our mass media misleads the populace. the reason they do this is doing so does numbers for them. when you have a for profit media apparatus, you will make more money if there is always an emergency. this way they can trick people like this guy into making their own emergency, and then they can package his tragedy and sell it to us.
  everything is going according to plan
  
  You can't promise to round up and deport 10 million "criminal, illegal immigrants" without implying that all of the ~10 million undocumented residents are criminal. Unless you've been listening to Ann Coulter and believe there are 50 million undocumented - 1 in every 6 people in the country.

Why would you do that to your own wife?
- Cheaper than a divorce? /s

Me when I read stories like this
FAFO vote for a clown don't complain it's turning into a crazy circus

Well, that was stupid wasn’t it

The more I see stories like this, the more I wonder if Americans can make it out of this hole they've dug. The average inhabitant seems... rather lacking, compared to other developed countries.
- I disagree. People are dumb. Pick a country and I'm sure I can find shitty takes reported in the news. Hell, look at Brexit
  
  Agreed. The thought that you're above the con, you could not fall for a grift, is the greatest thing a con man could hope for in a target.
  
  Exactly, the US government has made it this far on good luck and overall commitment to a mythical American ideal. All it took was a successful populist candidate and some class war propaganda to undo all that.
  
  Brexit was indeed a dumb move, but let's be honest here, it's nowhere near what's happening in the US right now. I can't think of anything comparable in a first-world country, at least not since WWII.
- to ~~other~~ developed countries
- People are dumb, especially when lied to 24/7.
  The average Russian probably still thinks that Ukraine is Nazis and that they are winning. The average Chinese doesn't know about Tiananmen square students protest or the brutal suppression much less Uyghurs genocide. Name a country and there's something along those lines ongoing or at least in recent history. The far-right in Europe is doing much like America was just 10-20y ago other places are already ahead into their authoritarian phase.

HA HA HA! The dipshits Bradley and Camila found out. The article indicates Camila was flown to a privately run detention center in fucking Louisiana, WTF, GITMO was closer. Are the fuckers at DOGE checking how much the shit is costing US taxpayers?
- Gotta love libs cracking up over which concentration camp people are sent to.
  Thankfully leopards hate the taste of lib faces. smh.
- Have to go to a private detention center so that Drumphs mates who own the centers, can profit as mightily as possible.
- No price for FREEDUMB!

- You voted for Biden instead of Kamala? What good did that do?!

I can't wrap my head around how people don't think the rules will apply to them
- They're voting for people who regularly avoid the consequences of their actions. They think that they'll receive the same special treatment.
- IMO, people think this way because they’re trying to do the right thing, but the nebulous others are not. Deporting those others would make it faster and more acceptable for themselves to be approved. Clearing the queue and getting a glow up, for a ridiculous analogy. Fear leads to irrational choices. Telling people they’ll be 1000% more patriotic if you vote for them is an evil but successful tactic pandering to this fear.

You won, get over it

Boo hoo. Boo hoo. FAFO MAGAtard.

He didn't vote for Krasnov Trump, He voted for his wife to sit in an ICE detention center.
He should also be arrested for knowingly harbouring a foreigner who overstayed. As her sponsor, it was his responsibility to ensure she did not overstay.

Whomp whomp

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