Megapost: U.S. Speaker of the House Saga
Megapost: U.S. Speaker of the House Saga
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Fucking hilarious that the Republicans brought up the downgraded credit rating that they caused and pin it on Diamond Joe lmao.
Fucking scum bags.
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They are trying hard to pin blame on all this "chaos" on Democrats. Nobody is buying it.
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I bet the same people that have been buying this bullshit for the last 50 years are buying it now.
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Well, they're supposed to just roll over and let them do what they want! How dare they ask for facts, reason, and properly ran debates! The temerity of it all!
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Something like 40% of the electorate is completely bought into this.
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I wish that were the case. Talk to me after the next election...
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Theodore Medad Pomeroy was elected as speaker on the last day of the 40th Congress on March 3, 1869. It was a gesture of respect and honor ahead of his retirement. He served one day as speaker, basically an honorary role, speaker for the day and then congres adjourned for the year. He was the shortest serving house speaker in US history. The second shortest serving house speaker is Kevin McCarthy.
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May be all aspire to one day be named something as dignified as Theodore Medad Pomeroy.
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Wow what a change from the early days of respect and retiring to now where the oldest senator just died at "Fuck she was how old?!" and the current speaker got outed for being a shit eater and not being cruel enough by a handful of rich twats that don't understand debate or decorum... what a mess the late empire is.
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On this day, McCarthy remembered -- this is exactly what everyone said was going to happen and why no one understood why he wanted the position so badly.
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Yup. Literally no one is shocked by this. Not even Kevin McCarthy.
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That's the funny part they wouldn't give it to the Dems out of spite but they can't lead or build a caucus of a majority.
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And now they've never looked more like incompetent fools.
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It's hilarious to hear Republican after Republican attack the Democrats over this ridiculousness, when they desperately need Democrats to vote not to vacate. They're not doing their own arguments any favors.
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Hunter Biden! I got a BINGO!
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[Oversight?!? We haven't even subpoenaed a private citizen with literally nothing to do with the government!]
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In a nutshell, here’s what happened. In January, McCarthy made an agreement with hardline conservatives, some of whose terms have never been made public, to ultimately secure their support as Speaker. In May, McCarthy made a (public) agreement with Democrats to set the federal budget at a certain level in order to avert a default on the national debt. In September, though, McCarthy (under pressure from hardliners) attempted to secure further funding cuts during negotiations over a potential government shutdown—then ultimately conceded to Democrats and helped pass a funding bill that largely did not include any of the cuts that the hardliners sought (which were cuts that McCarthy had originally, in May, told Democrats he wouldn’t seek).
McCarthy has left both his party’s furthest-right members and the entire Democratic caucus with the belief that he cannot be trusted, which is why Democrats are expected to join Monday afternoon with hyper-aggressive Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz and at least five other conservatives in supporting a “motion to vacate the chair” in the House, i.e end McCarthy’s speakership. (Republicans currently hold 221 House seats to Democrats’ 212.)
If that happens—and it’s a fluid situation—there’s no telling what will happen next. No other Republicans have actually said they want to be Speaker, which would put us roughly back where we were in January: With McCarthy holding enough support among Republicans that no one else is a plausible candidate to become Speaker, but not enough support to win a majority of the entire House, which is what’s required, and actually assume the position. (And yes, the House needs a Speaker.)
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If that happens—and it’s a fluid situation—there’s no telling what will happen next.
That's not strictly true. If there is no Speaker, then all the House can do is vote for one. So we know exactly what happens next. What we don't know is who will end up with the job, or how long it will take to pick that person. It could be over on the first vote, or it could take days (even weeks).
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If that happens—and it’s a fluid situation—there’s no telling what will happen next. No other Republicans have actually said they want to be Speaker, which would put us roughly back where we were in January
Let's hope it's not Marjorie Taylor Greene...
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The Democrats have announced that they will vote against McCarthy.
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Update: House Democratic leadership will vote yes on the pending Republican Motion to Vacate the Chair
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Do you have like a CSPAN video link or something live?
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Live session here: https://www.c-span.org/video/?530878-3/house-session-part-2&live
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We have like 40 days to figure out a new speaker and then find the govt. it was hard enough to pick one the first time. This isn’t going to end well
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It's not that hard. Dems just need to pick a republican who isn't a complete piece of shit......oh wait. It is going to be hard.
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Maybe the progressive bloc of the Dems should pull a freedom caucus and hold the party hostage until we get someone decent as speaker. I know that won't work for a million and one reasons but a man can dream
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I don't have time to go looking and I don't really know anyone else who does.
... So who the hell is going to find it? Hell, who lost it in the first place? Make them find it, I'm busy over here.
... ; )
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Well, Kevin... at least you outlasted a head of lettuce.
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26.9 Mooches.
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The mooch scale loses it's impact when the person doesn't work for trump or report to him directly. Still, in gop land this sets a record for fewest mooches b4 Getting kicked to the curb as speaker.
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so basically they now have 45 days to pass a CR or the Republicans will shut down the government again and 20 of those days will be spent picking a new speaker...
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20 days to pick a new speaker
24 days to argue about the bill within their own party
1 day for the speaker to hastily save the party from owning another shutdown
7 days for that speaker to be kicked out
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McCarthy gets ousted by his own party, somehow manages to blame Democrats. Speaking to the press just now:
“I think today was a political decision by the Democrats. And I think I think the things they have done in the past hurt the institution,” he said.
What a piece of shit, good riddance. The 45 daystop gap funding bill he put on the floor for a vote an hour after it was introduced, leaving Dems no time to read 77 page bill to see if it had poison pills they couldn't vote for. Classy guy. Just today it was reported he was refusing to postpone votes on Thursday so membera could attend Dianne Feinstein's funeral.
The new guy doesn't seem to be any better:
As one of his first acts as the acting speaker, Rep. Patrick McHenry ordered former Speaker Nancy Pelosi to vacate her Capitol hideaway office by Wednesday, according to an email sent to her office viewed by POLITICO.
“Please vacate the space tomorrow, the room will be re-keyed,” wrote a top aide on the Republican-controlled House Administration Committee. The room was being reassigned by the acting speaker “for speaker office use,” the email said.
Only a select few House lawmakers get hideaway offices in the Capitol, compared to their commonplace presence in the Senate.
The former speaker blasted the eviction in a statement as “a sharp departure from tradition,” adding that she had given former Speaker Dennis Hastert “a significantly larger suite of offices for as long as he wished” during her tenure.
Pelosi didn't even vote today, she was in SF with Fienstein. But don't let that get in the way of partisan bullshit. And she said she won't be able to pack up by Wednesday for the same reason. Fucking gouls.
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A petty person abusing temporary authority.
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Oh McCarthy must have an intense fury for Republicans right now, he just doesn't want to add fuel to the fire.
I mean it's a giant wildfire so it doesn't really matter but it's still funny to see him kneeling to them.
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They should put forth a motion to vacate that guy too, lol.
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Never mind that the only role he has as Speaker pro tempore is facilitating the election of a new Speaker. He doesn't have the power to rule on any other House business that isn't very narrowly and very specifically tied to that one, single purpose.
But then again, we're talking about a Republican here, so power grabbing moves are par for the course.
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Holy fucking gaslighting, Batman!
These fuckers live in an alternate universe.
Will the democrats get a chance to speak? If so, all they have to do is say, "This is what you get when you vote for republicans"
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"If you throw a speaker out that has 99 percent of their conference, that kept government open and paid the troops, I think we're in a really bad place," McCarthy told reporters in the Capitol Tuesday morning.
Guess he's not talking about himself because he's got only 96.33%(210/218) of his conference...
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He didn't even have that for the CR vote, didn't like 90 Republicans vote no on it?
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I imagine him sickcrying right now as he packs his shit to move down into the basement next to the waterheater and boiler for the House.
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I never WANTED TO BE SPEAKER ANYWAY!
heavy sobs as he wipes his nose with his sleave
Stoopid gavel is TOO FUCKING SMALL ANYWAY!
Kevin then angerly throws a scrapbook of his first week in office across the room and throws himself onto a couch. He hiccup sobs into a pillow as The Cranberries ode to my family plays in the background
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Remember when he went ahead and moved into that office before being elected speaker? Somebody get me some mint milanos.
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Nah has confused as to why these Republicans aren't falling in line like they're supposed to. He's speaker after all. They did for a pedo like Denny hastert and Eric cantor and that wank stain Paul Ryan.
It's funny that they're starting to believe their own rhetoric instead of just making back room deals like usual.
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I don't doubt that putin's interest is in creating disruption in the US, but I think the much louder call is coming from inside the house. American corporations and the wealthy benefit greatly from a congress that is too crisis-ridden to regulate them.
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House rejects attempt to spare Kevin McCarthy a vote on removal.
The Republican-led House on Tuesday voted down a motion to table a resolution that would remove the California Republican from the speakership. As a result, the chamber will move forward with a vote on whether McCarthy should lose his position. His removal is being sought by hard-right members of his party and Democrats have signaled they won’t save him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/03/kevin-mccarthy-house-speaker-vote-2/
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Let's watch this happen again.
The Republicans don't want to govern, they want to prove it's all a circus, andthe two parties in government appear to be elephants and clowns.
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Some real anger from temporary speaker bow-tie on that gavel.
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Yelling "somebody pull the fire alarm" in the middle of the vote. Going well I see.
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Yeah that was a great joke from a guy whose party was in the process of going to historic levels of effort to prove they are incapable of governing.
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I think they wish to have the same excitement and goofiness of the British Parliament, but lack the awareness of when to be funny and when to shut the fuck up.
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It got a laugh out of me and I hate this version of the republican party.
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"The Speaker of the House is chosen by the Majority Party. In this Congress, it is the responsibility of House Republicans to choose a nominee & elect the Speaker on the Floor. At this time there is no justification for a departure from this tradition. The House will be in order" - Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi
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Well now he's no fun at all.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/breaking-mccarthy-will-not-run-for-speaker-again/
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Declared vacant. We have no Speaker.
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Reports coming in that McCarthy allies are trying to get Dem support.
No dice so far...
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He's not getting dem support unless he makes concessions. At which point he will lose rep support. He's boned if he can't whip his caucus into agreement.
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McCarthy’s term as Speaker has been as embarrassing as it was short-lived. His insistence on caving to the 20 or so votes of the far right over reasonable compromises with the democrats’ hundreds of votes was certainly a choice. But it was a bad one and it was his ruin. Last minute moves to diffuse your own bomb don’t inspire loyalty.
Now who? Who wants it that isn’t a nightmare or a fuckup? Preserved head of Nixon?
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This guy is loud and incoherent.
Sorry, Kev. You pinned your political fortunes on blustering ignoramuses.
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Kevin McCarthy has officially been removed from the speakership.
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Motion passes for the vote. Let the games begin!
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Got my popcorn ready.
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Now that you mention it, I am down for a hunger games scenario between Gaetz, McCarthy and whoever else wants to play. Hold it on the National Mall.
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They can take the bets on the fight to fund the government.
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10 Nays to NOT VOTE on a motion to vacate so far. McCarthy is cooked if the votes remain when the actual voting starts.
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11 Nays votes now! I laughed when I saw that.
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That's for if he can't get elected at this point. That play was for 2020 if they could make a double impeachment stick. But they may try it again if he loses (somehow) to another GOP candidate.
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Apparently MTG has already suggested it.
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Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) announced she is in California and will not be in the House for the expected vote to remove Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R
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This has been freaking hilarious so far.
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Kevin McCarthy is a tireless warrior! No one has tongued the seam on Trumps balls as much or as long as he!
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Any opportunity to repeat their absurd talking points... oh no, immigrants/great replacement! Oh no, we can't starve the government and make it ineffectual because debt and riders on the debt bills! Oh no, McCarthy compromised and compromise with Democrats is treachery!
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Sounds like we may have 6 votes (Gaetz and crew) at least to vacate from Rs. Including potential others who are unknowns.
Assuming all the Ds also vote then that would be enough to vacate.Then what? Who knows
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What happens if he is vacated as the speaker?
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They keep voting till there's another speaker. EVEN IF IT TAKES DAYS OR WEEKS OR LONGER!
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A new speaker will have to be elected.
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How many times did Gaetz say "Chaos"?
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Bye, Kevin! Don't let the gavel smack you in the forehead on your way out!
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Dems slow walking votes to get more people in as a couple are absent. Pelosi on her way from the airport.
Edit: Looks like Pelosi may stay in San Francisco to attend funeral services for the next couple days. So she maybe a no show.
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Are we sure Gaetz isn't bought off by Dark Brandon? He's really laying into McCarthy and others.
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I don't understand why they can't do these votes electronically and have it over in a minute or two.
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Conservatives don't do anything easily.
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Does Andy Biggs have Trumps cock in his mouth? He's mumbling so fucking much.
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Domestic terrorists have taken over the US government, destabilizing our country. Downgrading our credit rating seems deserved at this point.
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Wow, good job admins on removing the most active post and discussion on the matter just to push people here. Fuck you bring our conversation back.
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We actually had a discussion on it, while I was against a megathread for the Diane Feinstein and Fulton County plea deal, this issue is likely to go on for DAYS given what happened last time (5 days, 15 votes). It makes sense to consolidate it down to a single Megapost.
That being said, we should have caught it quicker before any single post gained traction.
We do have future plans for sort of "Pre-emptive Megaposts" when there are scheduled events that we know the timing of. Expect to see those on primary elections, trial dates, that sort of thing.
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Yeah that was my thread. Kinda bummed that it got nuked completely. I think it had 400 or 500 upvotes at the time and hundreds of comments.
The really strange thing is that it doesn't even show on my profile anymore. It's just gone.
Hopefully in the future threads will be locked but not deleted when there's a megathread.
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Wow this Rep. Bob Good is one annoying S.O.B.
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Eight Republicans against McCarthy after the first reading.
Official notice is coming soon -- MCCARTHY has unofficially been removed from the speakership
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Are you not entertained?
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I don't like my politics to be entertaining
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That guy announcing recess just slammed the gavel like he wanted to destroy it lol
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Non American here, what's the significance of this?
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The Speaker of the House is basically in charge of proceedings in the House of Representatives (the "lower" house of the legislature). No business can get done in the House until one is elected by the representatives. This is the first time in history that a sitting Speaker has been removed from the position in the middle of the term. This is a particularly awkward time since the government will run out of funding in 45 days if Congress does not pass a budget.
This is a result of a growing split between the ultra-far-right and the slightly-less-far-right factions within the Republican party.
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Speakers don't get removed, ever. He is the first to be voted out in the history of the country.
Also the House now cannot do anything except vote on a new speaker
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This motion to table the resolution to oust McCarthy is going to fail.
10 GOP nos so far -- and the vote isn't yet closed
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Is McCarthy out yet!? Huh huh?! The suspense is killing me.
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