What's been your most painful parent tech support moment?
What's been your most painful parent tech support moment?
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Its not the tech issues themselves but my dad always worried about anyone changing any settings on the family computer (even the screensaver) and he had the attitude that he had to do things himself. He's computer illiterate, can barely see to read and a slow 1 finger typist. Even him inputting a postal code into a Sat Nav takes so long, so many repetitions, it's truly painful. So imagine when things stop working. I'm not a tech person either, so I'm trying to figure out a solution while he's talking about some random computing issue he heard about on the radio decades ago and telling me not to change the settings and break the computer lol.
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My mother once threatened to evict me (was still living with them) because I asked her to back up her important files for me to carry them over to the new office computer I had set up for her.
She flat out refused to even attempt it or answer any of my investigative questions. This woman had been using windows computers for work for over 20 years at this point, but the thought of opening an explorer window apparently terrified her so much we got into an actual shouting match over it.
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God bless you
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My grandfather had directories full of young teens, even his desktop wallpaper. They were definitely over 18 but still... I never said a word, just acted normally.
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When I found out that my dad doesn't know what the backspace key does on the PC keyboard. His whole life he's only ever used the Del key and always positions the cursor to the left of text he wants to delete. He used to work at IBM for over 30 years and learned to program back in the day when computer code was printed on punch cards. But I'm pretty sure keyboards already had the backspace key back then.
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Every time my grandma needs help with her phone I always have to go and delete like 10 apps because she just keeps installing random useless ad ridden crap. She has like 6 diferent weather apps. She keeps installing random fucking gps navigation map apps. You open them and boom immediately ads. They just don't learn.
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They needed me to help them because the Flash drive "wasn't working". They ended up shoving it in backwards and completely destroying the port. I asked why they did it and they said it wouldn't go in.
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I had a boss who once told me that there are two things you should never force: love and machines. If you have to try that hard, you're doing it wrong.
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My cousin was way older than I so his kids were my age. He brought his laptop over because it was showing weird porn ads at very odd times. I usually charge a bottle of alcohol and then throw a big party with that alcohol because I was the go to guy for the neightborhood. Anyway, the porn he was watching was really intense and not at all what you think of as "normal" porn. So I told him everything I found and he said his 15 year old grandson borrowed it when ever he came over. I was genuinly scared of that kid from that moment on. Clown porn was the lighter side of what I saw.
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Dad: "I don't have my wallpaper anymore on my desktop !"
Me: "Ok, what's in C:\User..\Pictures" ?
Dad: "I don't have C: I juste have D:
Me: "WTF ? You don't have a C:\Windows folder ?"
Dad: "No, I just have a D:\ drive. Windows is installed on D"
How th fuck did he managed to not have a C drive ????
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How th fuck did he managed to not have a C drive ???
It happens. You should have just told him to go to the D: drive if its the only one
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At least he understands that windows is installed, and on that drive.
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I can feel my blood pressure rise as I read through this comment section.
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I cannot tell you how many times I've had to help family members and friends "fix the sound" on their computers because they somehow changed their default audio output device without knowing it. I really wish people would just check their audio settings when they have a problem with it, instead of calling me to help every time.
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My nephew wanted to play games on my computer while I was at work. He was arriving later so I wrote down all the steps on paper the way I had showed him before.
Mom calls upset hours later saying they can't get the game running. She gets flustered powering on the computer, refuses to take a picture of the screen while in a fit, and powers off everything without letting me even try. Good god. 😂
The silver lining is that he's a little older now and can do it on his own.
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Helping my octogenarian mom with her iPhone is the most painful experience. She often calls me about something that has "popped up" in some app that she's using. I tell her to just close it and she says "how?" I then say something like "just click the OK button ... or the Done or Close buttons, that will be some unknown color ... or click the X in the upper right or maybe the upper left corner ... or click "Done" or "Close" in the toolbar, on the left or right sides ... or maybe the thing has slid up from the bottom and you need to swipe down to get rid of it ... or maybe you need to click the Home tab on the app's bottom bar."
I've actually been an iOS mobile developer for 15 years now. Anybody who thinks there's any sort of consistent, intuitive design principles behind Apple products is insane.
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I feel this lol
I do have some personal experience to 'prove' the contrary, since I gave my grandmother an iPhone, it become much easier to deal with. That might be bias though, as that is my primary device as well, so I might just be more used to it compared to troubleshooting Android devices.
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All of them
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Clearing about 5 rows of taskbars from my mom's internet Explorer years and years ago. Finding out she was paying for McAfee recently.
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Could be worse, my grandma paid for Avast and she was actually using the free version unknowingly.
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AVAST VIRUS DATABASE HAS BEEN UPDATED
That bitch will forever haunt me.
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I love it though
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The forgetting everything I took the time to explain even after “dumbing it down” to the simplest terms. Can’t blame them too much as it’s age related, but frustrating nonetheless.
Refusal to use a password manager. They write down the passwords plaintext in a physical pad. Not awful, all things considered, but then write down the password alphabetically without maintaining consistency in naming. Say it’s a password for a streaming service on a Sony TV. It might be under Sony, TV, or the name of the service; and all three titles might be entered in the pad because they couldn’t remember what they’d written it down under the first time. Then had to reset it and wrote it down under something else. So now you have passwords for TV, Sony, and Service, guess which one is right? Heaven help you if there’s more than one Sony TV in the house or something. At least the password managers go by website and a user created name so you have two chances of finding it.
When offering help over the phone they click or tap the wrong thing that leads to an incorrect page or menu, swearing they did it right, and being unable to locate the thing I’m telling them to look for after I led them step-by-step to the correct solution. This one’s pretty infuriating when many menus look the same and my questions about what they’re looking at only gets generic enough responses that I think they’re in the right place. It’s often only corrected when I ask them to take a pic with their phone and send it to me so I can figure out how they f’d up. I ended up installing remote desktop apps on their computers eventually so I could just do the work myself, quickly, with far less fuss.
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Tech support over the phone is torture. Especially when people don't know what a home screen, a menu, a file manager or a browser, a tab is, that in order to leave an app you don't have to close it and so on...
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Tech support over the phone is torture.
Heck yes, both giving and receiving.
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I always write password hashes on my notebooks.
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My parents: "You're a nerd, can you help with our computer?"
I reluctantly overlook how insulting they always are and help
Many months later
My parents: "Our computer isn't working right lately. It's probably your fault from the last time you were messing with it."
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It's probably your fault from the last time you were messing with it.
"Ok, you better ask someone else then. Clearly I'll only make it worse."
You'll never prove them wrong by falling for the manipulation tactic.
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People who are bad at understanding tech and logic coincidentally tend to be very competent at these kinds of tactics.
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Not a specific incident so much as a running theme in logical inconsistency… What on God's green Earth possessed these people to think that I, the "nerd" of the family, having gone completely digital except where legally necessary since about the late 90s, would have the faintest idea how to fix a fucking printer?
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Oh hey I've got this. I have to deal with printers for my hobby. This is the only tool you'll ever need.
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My mother is very smart. She knows her shit, but her shit does not include tech anything, which, unfortunately, makes her obviously afraid of it. She claims otherwise, but it's true. If anything goes wrong once, it will forever be that way to her. She's also incredibly stubborn.
To touch on that last point, she went through her advanced schooling in the 60s, at a time when typing was apparently taught at universities. Her professor made one comment about the women in the room going on to be secretaries, which my mom has clinged to, like so many other things, and now spitefully refuses to learn how to type properly.
I've shown her every single time I touch her laptop how to scroll through sites using two fingers on the touch pad. Nope, she must very slowly, squinting, find the tiny, hidden scroll bar, and, even more slowly, drag it down.
Her ability to read seems to completely disappear as soon as she turns on her computer or looks at her phone. After over a decade of holding her hand to do super basic things, the answers to which are almost always found by reading and comprehending, I made it a point to not outright tell her what to do if it's plainly obvious anymore. She still tries to get me to do it for her by staring at the screen for a moment and then looking at me like she's completely lost, or asking in the most annoyed way possible what to do, when the only options are click OK or... nothing.
"How do I do (x)?" Where (x) is something like opening Firefox from the desktop, going back to her browser-based email from a different tab, etc.
"You know how. You've done it several times before."
"That doesn't mean I remember how!" While actively doing the thing.
And the gestures - dismissive hand waving at the screen whenever something mildly inconvenient appears, the annoyed sighs, all of it.
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I observe the exact same thing in my parents - it's as if they somehow can't see some things on the screen, or lose the ability to comprehend written text, when it's unexpectedly displayed on a screen. They always fixate on some irrelevant UI element, ignoring the one that's currently important.
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My father is 85, used to be a dev. No issues, maintains his file sync between his two sites by himself via various clouds. Sticks to Windows.
Can't get him to use proper passwords (as in random generated stuff from his password manager) though, he insists on needlessly peppering the weak-ish passwords he comes up with and storing that in his decent password manager instead. I guess you can't win them all.
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You know what, it's better than writing all his passwords down in a little notebook in his filing cabinet
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Eh, if a hacker has physical access to your file cabinet, you've got way bigger issues.
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"But if that's a bad idea, why would they sell password notebooks? Looks it even says 'My Passwords' in a cute handwriting-style font!"
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Oh sure. It's not perfect but it could be so much worse. All in all he's doing fine.
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peppering the weak-ish passwords he comes up with and storing that in his decent password manager instead.
Most of the time people do that, it's because they worry about not having the password manager and meeting to type alphabet soup. I've gotten through to a few people to use 5 words with a delimiter pepper. It's still rather strong but they feel like they could type it if they had to.
Downside, if a site isn't hashing, they won't allow long passwords
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my parents always having a difficult time remembering password, just one password. and asking me to help to login their health insurance app on their phones, sadly idk what is happening with the app. its always logging out account after a while of not being used.
the worst part was they once asked me to remove the password system from the app, so they can always use the app peacefully, im not an IT person. so im having a hard time to explain why can't i remove the password system
pardon my english :)
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My parents had a new printer installed by a "professional" but it wouldn't show on the network. I tried everything, reinstalling drivers, unplugging and plugging cables again...
After hours of nothing working, i got desperate and just flipped through the menu of the printer on this small LCD display. There is a DHCP setting. The DHCP is set to a fixed address. The router every now and then reboots and gives new dynamic addresses. The printer refused its dynamic address all this time.
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I taught my dad a lot of things in his 70s that there is no way my 30 something son would be able to handle.
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my dad once asked me to copy files from his desktop to his disk, and then double and triple asked me if he can now delete the files on his desktop safely
you'd think he'd have had copying files figured out after a decade of owning a laptop, but alas
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A few weeks ago, my parents complained that the laptop kept going to a "screensaver" while they were trying to work on it.
So I changed the screensaver setting from like 3 minutes to 15 minutes... but it kept happening. I knew something was up when they said "well it wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have to reopen the Internet every time."
Guys... it was a touchscreen laptop. They were grabbing it by the corner and closing out the window. 😆 And one of these people showed me how to make a website in HTML when I was younger...
Are we all doomed to be daft in our old age?
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I can only hope I get my chance at the bliss of ignorance one day.
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When she was trying to explain File Allocation Tables to me as we attempted to fix my disk as a kid.
Thankfully, both of my parents worked in IT from the '80s, so they're generally pretty good at getting things figured out.
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Oh I am still tech support for some of my kids (and definitely for my husband). But yelling at my phone to "turn on the flashlight!" and leaving bluetooth on are the things I think drive the kids batty. "Mom! Just drag down from the top!"
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I don't know about most painful, but my dad bought a phone many months ago and last week, he wanted to know how to turn on the flashlight on it. I was ready to edit the notification dropdown or give a five step explainer or whatever.
Turns out, nope, you just pull down the notification bar and there's a pretty obvious flashlight button right there. The problem is, you see, he did not know you could drag down the notification bar. There were dozens of notifications there.
I really cannot blame him either. I don't know what UX designer came up with just putting a bar at the top and expecting users to know that you can drag on it. But yeah, still, ouch.
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You want affordances? Get out of here you filthy leper!
- every UI designer this century, apparently 🤦
I mean, give people a damn clue at least? No? Hm.
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I remember when "make it obvious what can be clicked on and what can't" was a basic design principle. That one got tossed a long time ago.
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My dad had a printer that wasn't working for months. I finally looked at it when I was over there and found that the USB cable was plugged into the ethernet jack.
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Just don't. You're wasting your time with this IT stuff anyway and now theirs too. And you should have fixed the printer not printing yesterday already.
It's a thankless job.
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My mom (78) got a new kindle a couple years ago, after the previous one lasting over 10 years.
She's not been using it now because "it's not okay" anymore. After a lot of poking and prodding remotely (we live in different countries) to get to understand what the issue was for the kindle to "not be okay", I managed to get her to tell me that "the screen is blank". I said I'd check it soon after when I went to her place.
When I travelled there, not long after, I checked the kindle, turned on the screen, and it was blank. Because she'd finished a book and the last page was blank. All worked fine.
I have told her, but she refuses to use the kindle because "it's not okay".
In a separate conversation I offered to give my sister my really old kindle as hers is actually broken. My mom heard that and said she wanted it because hers is... Not okay.
The insistence and willful ignoring of what I said is the most infuriating part.
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My parents each have a Kindle but they share the same account and are always reading the same book at the same time. I made the tragic mistake of trying to get them to use Airplane mode so that they don't keep getting popup messages about the read progress on the other device. I have now heard "so should I be in Airplane mode or not in Airplane mode?" one million times.
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the fact that my grandmother absolutely, hard ass refuses to do anything that would improve her situation. Just bitches and moans and has great big narcissistic pity parties until someone forces it down her fucking throat.
For example, her vision isnt great, she complaints its hard to use the computer cause she cant see to type (Shes one of those chicken peck typers). I tell her to get a large print keyboard with a backlight, it'd be easier for her to see and use.
She says no, it wont help. nothing will help. boo hoo pity me blah blah bullshit.
Long story short, it goes back and forth for a month, with her refusing the idea, refusing when I directly link her to a keyboard to buy (it was cheap, too), etc etc. Just making a big fucking woe is me pity party out of it.
I finally say fuck it, buy the goddamn keyboard myself, take it over to her house, put it on her computer.
within 5 minutes "Why didnt you tell me about this before? Its amazing! I can see it and use the computer again!"
Shes the reason i've been balding for 20 years.
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That sounds more borderline than narcissistic.
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Mother in law calls me during work, blaring warnings sounds blaring in the background, warning her that she has a virus and NOT to try to reboot or unplug the computer….
MIL: what do I do/why is this happening?
Me: you clicked on something… unplug the computer
MIL: but it says not to
Me: it’s ok, it is trying to get you to call the number so that you will give them money
MIL: I am too afraid
Me: ok, if you want to give them money or your credentials so that they can take all of your money, feel free. Just don’t drive to Walgreens to buy gift cards again… you will miss your soap operas
MIL: Ok, I’ll unplug it
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printers man. it's always some bullshit about how the printer doesn't work anymore, no wifi, no ink, it's printing some random HP bullshit Instead of what they want
call me an asshole but I told my parents I would strictly not help them with printer stuff anymore
they would also make me scan like 40+ pages back and forth. I hate scanning as well which is part of the agreement I made with them. they need to scan 49 pages ? ok then go to the library they probably have machine where you can dump a stack and have it scanned
if you're wondering about the frequency and volume of scanning the reason why is because I come from an ass backwards country that does not do e documents
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I come from an ass backwards country that does not do e documents
let me guess: is it Germany?
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that's a first I've heard for Germany, wrong guess but at least the Germans share my pain
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While helping my mother troubleshoot her phone:
I can't do anything because the keyboard keeps going away
Everything I click on tries to take me to WalMart
It keeps saying the phone is overheating but it's not overheating, should I download this program it's recommending?
No! I didn't download anything! I don't download things! Wait... Is the app store considered "downloading"?
I can keep going lol
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"C'mon you guys! There it is right in front of you the whole time. You're dereferencing a null pointer! Open your eyes!"
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I bought my mother a laptop and she treated the touch pad like something that was to fragile to actually use. So she hardly used the computer because no matter how many times I showed her you could actually press it and move your finger across it and it wouldn't break and she kept asking me how to move around the desktop using the keys cause "I don't want to damage it". I finally got fed up one day and found myself tapping the touch pad really hard repeatedly while saying "See it won't break!!!!" She ended up giving the laptop away cause she was too afraid to break it.
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I had to text my mom a screenshot of the browser menu with the 'share' button circled so she could share a link to me of the website she called me to help her use
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Fortunately my dad is a retired cybersecurity architect so they live as modern-day Luddites.
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JFC, that white text is me to a T.
And my printer is a 1998 HP 4050DTN that could probably survive the apocalypse in fair shape.
Even my planned CCTV system will be completely hardlined with shielded cables, technically airgapped, E2E encrypted between the cameras and the server, and with a mechanically-driven RJ45 connector that will allow one-way backups to BackBlaze once a week through a specially configured Bastille server.
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I wish.
My father currently works in IT and has "smart" everything (except locks, thankfully)
He has multiple Alexa thingies (used to be Google homes), Internet thermostat, smart light switches, smart cameras/doorbells, smart plugs
Idk why he does. The only thing that really provide any value are the light switches and plugs (scheduled lighting) and maybe the doorbell thingies
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I love how it's the people who know the most about how modern tech works that want nothing to do with 90% of it.
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Don't know about most painful, but it definitely sticks out.
My mother screamed for me at the top of her lungs on the other side of the apartment. I hurried into her office, where I see her pointing at the screen saying "FIX IT!" So I look at the screen and... it's a save dialogue in Word, asking her if she wants to save her document.
Me: It's asking you if you want to save the document.
Mother: Well how am I supposed to know that?
Me: Do you want to save the document?
M: I DON'T KNOW!!It's like she saw the dialogue and her brain crashed. She definitely could've read and understood it, but just chose not to. That sort of thing was a frequent occurrence sadly.
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Thanks. Yeah, she's a horrible and abusive person, and I've had zero contact with her for a year and a half now.
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Are everyone's parents sundowning hard? And lol at all the elite hackerman comments too.
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My mom called me a few years ago, after she clicked the big red warning message in a pop up. After the nice tech support man got on her phone. After she let him install "some program". Then she thought, maybe she should check with Perish. Yikes.
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What's the start button? Every time I say click: they don't know if it's left or right.
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My parents never know whether to single-click or double-click anything. So they hedge their bets and click everything twenty times.
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I set up my mom on Microsoft Outlook many years ago, back when you had to set the server and so on.
She called me a few days later and said her email wasn't working, so I walked her through looking at the options, making sure the right addresses and preferences were checked, etc.
After about 45 minutes, I remembered that I already set everything up correctly and it was working. Then I decided to ask, "are you typing the @ symbol, or are you typing the word at in the email address?"
Yep.
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The first question after "it's not working!" Is always "what isn't working?" followed by "show me what you were doing".
Used to have to deal with getting information out of customers that were having issues with our app (as a software dev, not sure why that was my job). Eventually we just asked for a video of what they were doing first thing when anyone called.
There's so many tech illiterate people out there, even young people who grew up with their phones often don't really know how to use it besides opening apps.
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show me what you were doing
Nothing! I did nothing! Things just happened!
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"are you typing the @ symbol, or are you typing the word at in the email address?"
…wut??
My father is 86, is fairly far down the slope of dementia, has a 5th grade education, has a hard time typing because he can’t really see the keys on the keyboard anymore, and still doesn’t do things like this.
…maybe I got lucky?
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Teaching slowly how to convert pdf to mobi to my mom for her kindle, each step, doing it with her, and 0 success. I don't mind it, I know she gets very frustrated with technology but it still sucks.
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My parents are generally pretty good with tech. But where I end up pulling my hair out is when I look at my mom's notifications. She lets any app notify her, and she has lots of apps. The other day when I looked she had two different weather apps reporting the temperature as a non-dismissable notification, and neither one of them was right.
I honestly don't know how we're related.
The other thing is when my mom says "but you told me to use this!" I got her to switch to Chrome from Internet Explorer, a dozen years ago. Now when I want to switch her over to Firefox (not even Waterfox!) she says, "but you told me this was the one to use!" Yeah, it was, during the Obama Administration. Same story with LastPass and Bitwarden. Sometimes the best tool changes, mom.
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Same story with LastPass and Bitwarden. Sometimes the best tool changes, mom.
I'm still having this conversation with my wife occasionally...
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Ugh.
Yeah, I've dealt with the whole "why does my phone make noise all the time"
"Cause you have tons of bullshit apps that arent doing anything but dinging your notifications. Let me remove them"
"No, what if I miss something?!"
"You don't even read the fucking things!"
"but I could still miss something!"
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She lets any app notify her
You should end that fast. Just recently I had to tech-support … somebody … because some bogus web site sent scammy notifications trying to scare … somebody … into clicking a link.
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Yeah, that's a good point. She's pretty good about not falling for scams for now, but she's not going to be this sharp forever.
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Friend of the family but still...
Had to travel by boat to an island with no road connection to turn on a printer, after having been promised that it was, in fact, on.
Once turned on it was working. Well as much as a printer can work.
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A trick for that is to tell them to now try actually unplugging it from the wall and turning it back on again. This gets them to actually do it instead of lying and/or not understanding what it means to actually turn it off and on again
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I worked tech support for an ISP, and i did this more often than i want to think about it.
It didn't help that one of the cable modems we gave out to our clients had a standby-button, which made the CM look like it was off - there was no indicator at all on the device, so i couldn't even blame the client for that (but i did blame my employer for not thinking about that. just like i blamed him for buying another modem series with power sockets which failed pretty quickly. did i mention that repairs were done in-house, and not all too well? it's been 20 years, and i am still a bit salty for all my wasted time)
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My father is an engineer, which has its ups and downs. He can definitely be trusted to read a dialog box and nearly 100% of the time even understand what it says. Abstract concepts, problems he's never encountered before, all generally no issue.
My stepmother, however, once asked me if she needs to rewind a DVD before putting it away. We've been working on it with her over the years. She's certainly better now, but she still has an acute case of just randomly clicking on things without reading them.
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My stepmother, however, once asked me if she needs to rewind a DVD before putting it away.
record scratch
…come again?
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It makes total sense if you're of the generation(s) whose brains were fucked up by the American public education system pre-1980 or so, and were never taught how to understand abstract concepts nor any critical thinking skills. They learned everything by rote recitation.
Everything.
FYI, this is probably in no small part why your parents struggle with technology or at the very least anything with an on-screen user interface so much.
Up until then, "thing you stick in machine that plays movies" inevitably involved some manner of tape. I imagine the majority of the public has absolutely no idea nor any interest in how this actually works inside the machine; as far as they're concerned it's either magic or complicated nerd technology stuff that they have convinced themselves that they'll never understand. It was just hammered into them that When Done With Movie You Must Rewind (or else mom/dad/the video store will get mad at you). However, no logical connection is made between the medium in question and the act of rewinding. Merely that it is a movie thing. Movie things get rewound.
I'm sure this is also why a particular generation insists on calling Nintendo cartridges "tapes."
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Cave woman that I helped: "You're not installing porn are you?"
Me: "Uhh, no?! Is that what you meant by helping you to setup the computer. Are you mistaking me for your husband?"
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I've got a stubborn father. Years ago, back when our old family computer was working and was something we actually used, all I wanted to do was remove a simple toolbar from the single web browser we all used that might have been caused by a virus (probably caused by me being dumb) and uninstall something that caused it (also probably caused by my idiocy). This was around 2019.
The problem was my parents didn't want me on it all night so they had something like an admin password, but I figured it out long before this because they wrote it down in a notebook. The other problem is they didn't know I knew the password, so I didn't wanna let them know I knew it. Also, with the computer being in the living room, I couldn't just fix this at any point because my parents (at least one of them) were usually in the living room at any given time besides at night.
In the end, it pretty much devolved into me telling my father that I'm just trying to remove something that could actively harm our PC, but he refused to let me do it. Don't know if it was because he didn't wanna type the password or what, but it was a short shit show... until he finally relented and for a measly few seconds he had to enter a password instead of spending minutes fighting me on this.
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My late mother-in-law's phone had so much malware running on it that it was completely inoperable. She had poor vision, so would just tap the screen at random to try to get dialog boxes to go away. She didn't really use ut for anything but making and receiving calls. I booted the phone in safe mode and removed basically everything from it, but it would inevitably reinstall. Eventually, I just factory reset the phone to make it usable again. Then I went through the accessibility options and increased the font size to obnoxiously large so she could read it. She really just needed a dumb phone.
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My Dad will ask me to help him with a tech issue then, because he spent 20-odd years doing spreadsheets and databases, he will decide that he knows more about the thing he's just asked me for help with so I don't help him anymore.
Most notably, when he was having issues with his video editing and I was doing a couple things with his export settings (we had a few classes about video editing in college- photography major) and half way through he decided I was wrong and the way he was doing it was best. The videos are now huge and unwieldy when they're only going up on YouTube. 🙃
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"I tried deleting all the emails"
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Painful would be the several (!) times I had to check the computer over after they fell for a tech help scam and lost money. The stupid thing was that if someone tried to sell them something on the street or phone they were smart enough to refuse, but for some reason a popup on the computer makes things legit. Even after it was a scam the last time it happened. Why?
There are many more lesser events that aren't painful as much as just tedious, but I think having some patience and knowing what to tell them (vs. actually explaining it) helped. I tried to reduce the complexity and lock things down, but in the end it was just easier to come over and fix the problem every now and then.
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Recently had to help my mom figure out her new internet setup. She wanted to keep her old phone number but it was not carried over to the new provider. My guess is she said that she wanted to keep it while ordering the new one but never followed any of the steps they gave her to make that work. So we called them and it was crazy how she was unable to explain to them what her current situation is and what needs to be fixed. Claiming that "nothing works" even though the internet works just fine and the only problem is the phone number. Also not really looking at the emails they send her and following the steps to activate the online service center where she could manage this stuff on her own.
Later I showed her that the laptop she got from work is able to connect to her new router wirelessly and does not have to be connected via cable. She already uses another laptop and her phone over wifi. Apparently she just has no interest in understanding how any of the internet systems work.
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