Reminder that an alternative for Starlink is needed, exchange between Musk and the Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs

When the war was turning in Ukraine's favor and they were about to push into Russia, he shut it off and crippled their counter offensive. I remember. Fuck Elon and fuck starlink.
- Not push into Russia, but attempting to retake Crimea.
  
  ~~They're presumably talking about the Kursk Oblast.~~ Edit: probably not, see responses.
- Which is why Starlink needs to be confiscated and managed by NATO. Somebody has to operate it, and it should be an entity who is on the side of Freedom amd Democracy.
  
  It's not that easy to confiscate sattelites
- Musk and Starlink aren't major difference makers in this war. It's a years-long slog where the main takeaway is "cheap and reliable in volume is more than a match for the newest and fanciest." It hasn't been on the verge of turning in Ukraine's favor since the end of Russia's initial push towards Kyiv.
  
  Is that why you guys are welding cages on your tanks?
  
  I have a buddy who's been eating/sleeping/breathing this war and, hands down, cheap and reliable FPV drones have changed how warfare is done. It's the main reason why trench warfare came back, and one of the things that fucked Russia up in the mid-term. Apparently they have a long-standing strategy that involves armor and something something something that my buddy explained and I don't remember, but because there's always drones watching every inch of the front at all times, Ukraine was able to bust that strat by being able to dial in artillery fast and early. At least, that's how I'm remembering what was explained.
- Oh no I'm hearing from people that wa a technical glitch.
- Close. There was a geobarrier that he refused to remove. Because attacks against Russia are aggression.

He also challenged Zuck to a cage match and chickened out when Zuck accepted. They’re both pieces of shit.
- He even chickened out of his recent offer to come on the Daily Show and debate Jon Stewart! He's a Nazi coward even when it's just talking...
  
  Did he officially bow out then? Jon gave him all the conditions he wanted too...
- Lol I forgot about that! Yeah fuck em both of course, but I feel like most folks would put their money on the ex-KGB agent who seized and kept control of freakin' Russia over nepo-baby "gamer", "engineer" Musk. What a goofy threat. And I say that as a middling gamer and engineer myself lol
  
  feel like most folks would put their money on the ex-KGB agent who seized and kept contr
  Putin is 5' 7", like 160 lbs, and 70 years old. Elon is 6'2", probably 200 lbs, and 52 years old.
  I don't think fitness and training can overcome 20 years, 50 lbs, and a full head of height.
  
  Putin also practiced judo for most of his life. Musk won’t be standing for long during the match.
  
  It’s Zuck and Elon not Elon and Putin.
- I hate Zuck but in this match I’m thinking if it’s not mutually assured destruction, then I might root for Zuck. Elon is becoming a very big problem.
  
  Or 400 pounds of semtex under the cage. 2 birds, one ring.
  
  Zuck is actually fit, trains, and is 10 years younger, hence why Elon chickened out.
- I don’t respect Putin very much, but I am 1000 percent sure that a former KGB agent will whoop Musks ass. Apart from that, wtf is he trying to show with challenging Putin to physical combat. What does that have to do with Ukraine?
  
  He's just a moron.
- At least Zuckerberg looks good now. Musk looks like shite
  
  Eh, I'd say he looks less like a robot rather than good. But yeah.

Don't let the fascists fool you, there are alternatives to Starlink. Eutelsat in France, Telesat in Canada and Inmarsat in the UK, just to name a few examples.
- Why is starlink being used, do you know?
  
  It’s faster, cheaper, and on the tech side more reliable (definitely not politically reliable though).
  
  My guess is better coverage and latency with its sheer number of satellites.
  They use low earth orbit, which require them to use more satellites, but lowered latency.
  
  Now, I don't know, but I would assume its the latency. Starlink has a (impressively) low ping of < 100ms, while existing alternatives usually have 600ms+. Now, that's only relevant if they are using it for stuff like flying drones.
  
  Starlink has enough uplink to be able to handle live video streams and a latency low enough to do this with simple tools.
  I’m not sure if that still happens, but I’ve seen some pictures of Ukrainian command bunkers literally getting drone feeds using discord screen share.

"Be quiet small man"... smallest dick energy I've seen today.
- Musk is gonna be copping a lot of that in response to his tweets now.
- Isn't it becoming quite widely known now that he's gotten a bad penile implant?
  
  his brain is as broken as his willy
- Dick so small he probably drives a Cybertruck.

did elon really say "pipe down pipsqueek" like that worked well for drake? man people with canadian citizenship gotta stop doing that.
- Soary :(
- I think the ritual to siphon all Canadian aggression into Justin Bieber every year is beginning to fail.

Also a reminder that everyone who is not a Musk sheep should leave Twitter.

Oligarchs used to act the part, and have the appearance of being "classy".
Now Oligarchs are just a bunch of 4chan users.
Wtf is: "Be quiet, small man"
That's not an elegant way of speaking.
These people are supposed to be "upper class"?
🤣
- That's how dumb shit argue on the Internet. Ad hominem.
- Nah, Elon thinks it's elegant. As in "Ha ha, I spoke like a big boy. I heard that badass line on TV once, on one of those shows I'm not supposed to watch. Bet that guy is now red on face and is so distraught he won't be able to eat broccoli on supper and his mom will yell at him. Owned."
- Really dude ?? 4Chaners are smarter than Elon, Elon is the definition of rock-bottom
  
  They're just as obnoxious as he is.
- "Be quiet, small man" sounds like a thing Dennis would scream at Mac in IASIP 😄 THE GOLDEN GOD! Dude is copying a comically psycho character from a show, thinking he's being sooo cool 😎
- It's literally an expression of the outsized amount of power this dipshit wields due to his enormous stolen wealth.
  He says that to a member of the Polish government to remind him that he is powerless and owned by the capitalist class.
  "Be quiet small man" with an implied "I own you."
- disdainful sniff new money, daahling.

If America was a real country this guy would've immediately been removed from any and all companies he runs.
Does SpaceX not have a board?
- SpaceX bggest customer by far is the US gvernment. Obviously that is run by Musk, so they will not fire him.
  
  But why? Why did t NASA do this. Instead government funded it and a private citizen controls it and gets all the benefits.
- They’re all his pawns

Is this exchange real? Surely this can't be, right?
- Looks like it is real https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1898759859459203457#m
  
  OK, so this is where things are now. Wow.
- Musk has completely lost touch with reality at this point and thinks he's god.
  
  That's what being completely fucked up on disassociatives all day everyday day will do to you.
  Being one the richest men in the world and completely unaccountable sure as shit doesn't help.
- He's a ketamine addict, so that's probably affecting his cognitive facilities to a degree.
  
  What are the clinical manifestations of Ketamine addiction? I'm asking honestly, because I don't know, and I wonder if he ticks the boxes.
  
  I live for the day he Michael Jacksons
- https://kyivindependent.com/poland-will-seek-alternatives-if-musk-cuts-ukraines-starlink-access-sikorski-says/
  
  Given Musk's latest remarks, they need to implement an alternative yesterday. I fully expect Starlink to be cut on Monday.
- It is real and my biggest concern right now is that European politicians seem so quiet about this. This conversation, including Rubio's comment, is scandalous.
- Why couldn’t it be. I don’t understand at this point how people can read shit like this and go ‘no way he would say that’

- Except for the fact that he doesn't make anything, he pays people who do, then takes the credit for it. Is his way with everything: companies, gaming profiles...
- I get what you're saying, but I refer to my car as...my car. I didn't turn a wrench in its construction, nor did I design it, but it's still mine.
  
  I mean he doesn't own it, SpaceX does. And he owns a bit less than half of SpaceX, though he retains most boring power.
- I reread and still don't see what you're quoting.
  
  "I literally challenged Putin to one on one physical combat over Ukraine and my starlink system is the backbone of the Ukrainian army."
  It's the first sentence of the quoted tweet.
  
  The interior, initial Musk tweet. It's a snippet in the middle of a sentence.

- I got permanently banned from Reddit for saying this. 17 hours and it's still up uh
  Edit: whoops 17 upvotes, not 17 hours ☺️
  
  I got IP banned on Reddit for saying that someone who pushed a woman on a bike over and made her fall, should be pushed instead. Big violence on my part lmfao
  
  .world gave up moderating Saint Luigi. I don't know what .uk's stance was
- Fuck it feels good to say that doesn't it?
- Absolutely

Calling someone else a small man really shows what kind of man he is
- It's quite an interesting insight into what kind of thing Musk himself feels is a great insult (hence he is susceptible to it) as well as how much Musk thinks his opinion counts for people such as the Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs, all of which dovetails with the idea that the guy suffers from both Megalomania and Narcisistic Personality Disorder.
  For any reasonably well adjusted person in a position of responsability such as being the Foreign Minister of a country the size of Poland (or, frankly, for anybody self-aware and self-confident), being called "small man" by somebody like Elon Musk is roughly the equivalent in importance to being barked at by a dog that cannot actually harm you.
  
  For a person who is afraid of being assassinated, he's pissing off a lot of people with the resources who could get him assassinated.

The irony of elon calling anyone else "small" is hilarious....
- Elon is quite large actually, especially his torso.
  
  Yup, nothing else of him is either big or medium sized. He has some complexes

Disgusting. Why the FUCK would you talk to our allies this way? The guy is a polish government official.. (I mean obviously I know why, Elon is a megalomaniac).
"Small man"??? WTF. I hate it.
- You wouldn't talk to your allies that way. Which once again makes it clear that the current US administration no longer sees Europe as allies.
  
  America as whole sees you as meatshields against the Russian bear

- Love it when the fucking around leads to finding out
- Holy shit that jump is crazy. Carlos Slim related as well I assume.

More competition will ensure the oligarchs to behave.
I don't trust the EU tech owners, but I recognize that they are at an disadvantage to the US counterpart (and nationalism is a useful tool to sell their product) so they won't be making overt moves to dismantle European democracy.
- It’s really really really not up to trust! Imagine if bec of eu oligarchs thousands of folks died because said oligarchs refused to pay for peoples healthcare!
  The one remaining guillotine in France would go around!
  
  So there really is one still in existence? So, like, if a prototype were needed ( just hypothetically speaking, of course), to build more, that could be done?
  Asking for a friend. . . Of a friend.

It's time for Europe to finally get their own solutions.
- It's called One Web by Eutelsat. Same latency and reliability, but less Mb/s about 70 Mb/s (and does it matter much for the few Kb packets to relay small amounts of data?).
  
  Eutelsat
  Eutelsat has about 9% the number of satellites and Starlink is expanding fast. This significantly limits the potential backhaul, which is why Eutelsat doesn't really focus on consumers, but rather governments and enterprise. They don't have the backhaul to offer wide consumer products. Their cost of launch is 10x higher than Starlink, at least, so they'll never be able to compete in backhaul or the consumer space. Of course they could contract SpaceX to launch their satellites, but then they're basically paying the competition to operate, and this power imbalance would be immediately leveraged to their detriment.
  The bottom line here is that competitors need reusable rockets, and no one else is even close. However Musk put together the company and strategy pushed space transport forward by decades in a very short space of time, and it's unlikely another Musk figure emerges in Europe. I do not subscribe to the common notion that if we throw enough money at the problem we can solve it. Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin confirms this. It appears to require an appetite for extreme risk; the will to blow up hundreds of expensive rockets; and likely a penchant for the disregard of existing safety laws. The EU would never permit this.
  
  Awesome hopefully it will improve and be a contender world wide.
- Here's one: https://www.skydsl.eu/en-DE/Personal/Satellite-internet/Tariffs/Private/Overview
  Seems to be about half as expensive as Starlink. 700ms latency though. So you won't be gaming skydsl.
  
  Promising , I bet th latency will improve with time , very good

This post has more upvotes on Lemmy than Reddit

That's weird: Musk and Trump are doing exactly what one would if they were Russian assets, bent on destroying western alliances... You don't have to believe all the evidence that they are... Just imagine that these 2 billionaires are compromised. What would they do at this exact moment in history...?

I can't fucking stand that douche. I wish Luigi would visit that cocksucker. Man, that feels good to say. Fuck Reddit too!
- Look at it this way, if they did indeed arrest and frame an innocent man for convenience, maybe he will.

Twitters UI confuses me. Where do I start? What's the next one? And where's the end?
- It starts in the middle. It's smaller and indented because it's then being quoted by the Polish minister on top. Then Elon, fuckwit that he is, responds at the bottom.
  
  How is that coherent lol. What happens when 4 or 6 tweets are twoted?

There's so many places where strategically important resources have been delegated wholesale to the US. Now, concerning mankind, it's theoretically better, of course, to not overdo it with wasteful redundancies. But, unfortunately, we're not talking about some kind of UN-controlled infrastructure, which is maintained and used internationally. Unfortunately, it's controlled by people like this, and that is now coming home to roost.
- I mean with the right President there would be reason to take it under the Defense Production Act or civil forfeiture. But Democrats will surely squeal, "our hands out tied" until the next Republican gets elected.

Rubio shouted at Musk, so poor Elon took it out on a foreign country's government official and called him "little man"
- This acutally makes sense, which is even more sad.

This post was the final straw for me. I deleted all my accounts on non crucial US based services yesterday when I first saw it. I was already angry with what is going on but it was a shallow meme boycott consisting of only drinking kofola now instead of coca cola. It got serious yesterday. Unfortunately I still need to think about the strategy to quit Google since pretty much everything I do is connected to my Gmail.
- My strategy is to use both Gmail and Proton and I'm slowly moving from one to another.
- Make sure to leave bad review specifically about those services being bad and poor quality.
  
  But if they are not, it's sad. You should put bad reviews with other real reasons.
- Try Proton!
  
  No.

Hubris. This is hubris.
Nemesis will follow, motherfucker, the Moires don't fuck around.
- BYD is already eating Tesla's lunch and I'm waiting for another to replace SpaceX.
  
  Not fast enough in Copenhagen. Teslas have become so numerous that within 500 metres i counted 25 Teslas parked or driving around. And that was just 1 street.
  Copenhagen is saturated with clean, perfectly un-vandalised Teslas...

Are we really allowing this American man belittle our institutions for his own profit?
- No, we're apparently letting a South African man, who is/was an illegal immigrant in the US, and who's maternal side of the family fled from Canada because his grandfather was a Nazi and was trying to drum up support to make Canada a Techno-feudalistic oligarchy, do those things.
  
  a drug-addicted South African man
  FTFY
- @alxmg @Blaze
  I have been boycotting X for years now. I think we should all ignore that ignoramus as much as possible, and boycott his companies. Let's focus on making #Europe stronger and more independent.
  
  I am with you on this, I’ve been boycotting everything American for that matter, and Musk’s services in particular.

Scheduled to arrived by 2030, but the EU is developing one and it's sounding pretty sweet: https://defence-industry-space.ec.europa.eu/eu-space/iris2-secure-connectivity_en

Pride goeth before the fall, they say. The hellish part is the wait.

Ah, the full Hitler, a bold move let’s see how it plays out.
- never go full hitler

Hey, rest of the Democratic world, there are a whole bunch of ex feds right now needing funds and direction for their anger. Maybe you should tap into them if you need someone to rid you of this meddlesome Chancellor.

There is no substitute for Starlink"
The fuck did he think militaries use before 2020?
- The high orbit low speed predecessor.

Abandon fucking Starlink and use Eutelsat. Poland should also stop buying US made weapon systems.
- As much as I hate Elmo, you can fold Starlink terminal flat and put in a backpack and it weights around 6 kilogram and costs around $500, Eutelsat „portable” OW70L is fucking chonky dome that weights 30 kilos, costs $2000 and needs to be transported in a car. They need to seriously up their game, and do it fast.

Is there any evidence that Musk is right about Poland only paying "a tiny fraction of the cost"? Seems a strange comment to make
- SpaceX is bleeding money but I guess they are taken care of for the next 3.8 years
  
  for the next 3.8 years Now now, we should stop pretending that anything could happen in 3.8 years to stop that.
  They'll stop it in a few months when Putin tells them to.
  
  3.8 years if we’re really really lucky. My money is that our luck ran out in 2016.

Isn't it really frightening to let a super rich ketamine infused buffoon get this much power?

Nationalize SpaceX and deport Musk to South Africa where he belongs.
(Ok maybe nationalize it under the next administration.... if there is a next one)
- I have a question is an immigrant allowed to be vice president ?
  No right ?
  
  That's right, I think foreign born citizens can hold any office except president or vp
  
  VP has the same requirements as President, which exclude Musk because he isn't a citizen by birth. Musk was essentially put in the highest possible position he could be that didn't require him to be elected or confirmed by Congress.
  Which is why he needed a puppet to be President for him. I don't know that he ideally wanted a puppet he'd have to time-share with Putin, but that's the puppet he bought.
  And I firmly believe that aside from the occasional going off script as a kind of tantrum that Trump is entirely a puppet - consider the narcissism and desire to exude power that he has, and then look at him in the photos of that meeting where Elon was in the Oval Office with little Kevlar Musk and just how defeated Trump looks. He knows his choices were win office or be buried by the courts, and he signed whatever deals with whatever devils were necessary to guarantee it happened, he's owned by Elon and Putin, he knows it and that eats at him.
  
  Please consult this reference manual: https://smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=235

TBH I think any more low orbit telecom satellite arrays than we already have are just going to become a huge problem in the following decades.
- Starlink is already being a problem currently, and it's not even fully deployed
- This has been commented before.
  Starlink flies at a very low altitude, meaning relatively high atmospheric drag, and a very short period of time before their sats deorbit if they go dead, less than ten years.
  It's nowhere near the problem everyone makes it out to be.
  
  Official statemens claim they run for about 5 years, deorbit anywhere, and do NOT always burn up in reentry.
  
  Until we find out that not nearly as much burns up on re-entry as assumed and they've been raining carcinogens for decades.
- I hate the fact that they just got "permission" to destroy the view of the nightsky.

I was tricked by Musk into believing his lies before he started to endorse Trump 2.0. I feel stupid now. The sociopathic tendencies are undeniable.
- I remember a comment on Reddit from someone claiming to belong to Musk's PR team that said they worked incredibly hard to cultivate his image. But they had just been fired as Musk was tired of being controlled, and kept from doing and saying crazy things. This person said the world would soon see just how much of a. all-around monster Musk really was. I didn't believe them at all at the time, Musk was a genius who was going to save humanity! It really makes me wonder about the actual person behind most of these figures and celebrities.
- My life policy is that if someone or something is too hyped,popular, trendy or loved it's usually shit
  
  It's a safe bet and the worst that can happen is something good. Ironic.
- I can actually pinpoint the exact moment I became disillusioned with Elon Musk. It was back in like 2014 or 2015. I also thought he was a genius until I saw him talk about whether or not we live in a simulation. He said something to the affect of "if we are to assume that it's possible for technology to progress to the point of simulating universes indistinguishable from our own then the possibility of us living in a prime universe is one in billions." A bunch of people at the time ate that shit up but I immediately recognized that he pulled that shit out of his ass given that the whole thing is predicated on a giant assumption that by all accounts isn't even likely like at all and that there is absolutely no basis whatsoever for the 'billions' figure. Ever since then it's been blatantly obvious to me that he mostly doesn't know what he's talking about 90% of the time. And when he does know what he's talking about he's willfully deceitful in order to try to manipulate everyone.
  
  for me the whole spelunking-rescue fiasco was what broke the camels back.
  in my cringe alt-girl era but rät by penelope scott is about this exact topic

I don't like Putin, but he's a black belt judoka additionally trained in combat by the russian secret services.
He could fuck that misshapen walrus pool toy without even getting out of breath.
- Putin is just as full of shit as Elon is.
  Mofos couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.
  
  Just shows how uneducated you are. Putin was trained kgb agent during the soviet union. You see how he looks at his current age and it doesnt take a rocket scientist to tell he could wreck the ordinary politician and dictators. Russia's whole thing is physical strength.
- Putin is a small 72 year old man.
  He'll I'd fight that POS.

"Small man" says everything.
- Musk thinks he's an edge lord.
  
  And pandering to weird dudes that think even the dumbest, most cringeworthy statement is a win if you're pretending that it is.

blast every single one of them shits out the sky. it's an eye sore and he's the small man.

Isn’t OneWeb constellation is debated until Iris2 is available?
But we should reconsider the SpaceX launch contracts.
- They’re both targeted towards commercial or government business, which is unfortunate from an individual subscriber perspective. I would love to see a euro competitor to Starlink and Kuiper, so I can unplug my Starlink.
  Iris2 looks like a traditional Euro project with a dozen companies from different countries involved, to make sure the funding isn’t concentrated in one country. SpaceX has the advantage of improved integration in comparison.
  
  Well. In my opinion it is about substitues for Ukraine.
  
  Not exactly a replacement for Starlink, and it’s not ready yet, but Vodafone just announced buildup of a European direct to device service.
  Full disclosure, AST Spacemobile is a US company directly competing with Starlink in this space.
  https://www.vodafone.com/news/corporate-and-financial/vodafone-and-ast-space-mobile-sign-agreement-to-create-european-direct-to-device-satellite-service-provider
- We should reconsider every thing associated with this psychopath… which is why he would stop at nothing until he owned those who might challenge him. Elon may be the most significant threat the western world faces at this time, and I don’t think the solution will come from inside his captured governments.
- We should consider buying and nationalizing starlink. It's apparently critical for national defense and security, so it would make perfect sense to nationalize it.
  
  In a perfect world, yes. No one in the current administration and no GOP member in congress wants it, hell, the supreme court might even revoque it if suggested because Vladimir Vladimirovich, our dear leader would not allow the orange governor of neorussland to do it.

Starlink is just putting up cubesats with basic programming variations. The EU space agency can easily provide a competitive service that values freedom and democracy.
- The "putting up" is hard to do, especially cheaply.
- "easily"

Eutelsat!!!

There are already alternatives. Use a mixture of them so they compete with each other for your business. https://www.wired.com/story/starlink-replacement-ukraine-eutelsat-oneweb-project-kuiper-amazon-iris2-elon-musk/
As soon as possible ban Starlink for security, spying risk.

So Hughes-Net & ViSat aren't a thing ? They're satellite internet companies probably based in Europe, but I could be wrong. (I probably butchered the names)
Also, how rich of Elon, a man whose existence is propped up by government funding to bark & bite the hands that feed them
- The main European actor is called Eutelsat. They say they can provide a similar quality of service in Ukraine as Starlink. They have GEO sats and a LEO constellation of around 650 satellites.
- Both seem to be US companies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viasat_(American_company), https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hughes_Network_Systems
- They use higher orbiting satellites which come with some trade-offs, lower speeds higher latency and more easily disrupted by weather events. When they say there is no competition they mean in terms of what you get and as much as I hate the man he isn't wrong there is nothing to compete with starlink right now
  
  So we just bring the satellites closer

An alternative sure, but not in the manner. StarLink is already filling up the air space and producing a ton of new space debris. It needs to die with an entirely different alternative.
- The alternative is putting up "do you want free training on operating a small bulldozer?" signs everywhere, hiring the humans who show up, and laying down underground cable or telephone poles everywhere. Fuck, just slap a "national defense" reason for why there needs to be internet everywhere for military communications.
  Starlink outshines in latency vs undersea cables. Small drones use small radios, bigger drones can use bigger military satellites. Just build out communication to rural areas already. Integrate comm lines into road maintenance crews.
  
  The US government has already paid over $200 billion across about a half dozen high profile infrastructure projects and countless smaller ones.
  But we are supposedly up to ~55% coverage of fiber so maybe eventually it'll be fine.
- EU could knock them out of the sky.
- What is the alternative?
  Geostationary needs a lot more power to transmit.
  
  That's not even the issue with geostationary. The problem is latency to/from satellites in geostationary orbit.
  
  What is the alternative?
  Underground fiber. The thing we paid all our telecoms to install back in the 90s, which they promptly didn't do after pocketing all the money.

There are alternatives to starlink though. This guy thinks he owns it all
- The shares of the most likely alternative are going through the roof.

Put them down like rabid dogs.

I wouldnt be suprised if putin beat his ass. They both might be old decrepit fucks but putin has martial arts training at least. This response to one of my countries government officials is also what pushed me over to finally dropping as much american everything as possible.
- before the Ukraine war felon wanted to open a tesla factory in russia, he and putin want to do buisness together and the war in an inconvenience, it is all about $$
- My money would be on Putin for sure. There's no way Musk's pale, puffy body has ever been in a real fight, unless you count lying on your back and kicking upwards while screaming to be "fighting" per se.
  A more interesting contest would be between Musk and Trump, since Trump outweighs him by probably 80 pounds and has much greater reach. Plus the force of his punches would be concentrated into a smaller area!
  
  Putin is 8 inches shorter and 20 years older than Musk.
  Then again Putin would have the very best doping program in the world, Musk would probably take a bunch of unproven experimental hormones and ketamine, not work out, and get an ever weirder looking body.
- Musk would probably be in more danger if he won the fight. Really a win win situation.
- Honestly I think Putin would beat his ass

Elon Musk's atoms are poorly arranged for maximizing utility to the human race and would be better served if they were rearranged into fertilizer for feedcrops. At present they are just in a cloud of un-thought. Utilitarianism must be respected.
- [vibrates proliferously]
  How do you speak our language?
  
  Simple. I have access to an oscillation overthruster and a Ford pickup.

Is he calling people small now to compensate for his fat ass looking like Doctor Robotnik?

i find new reasons to hate on this man, sadly he was an idol when i was growing up kanye west'd himself real quick. ah they two are friends right! makes sense.
- most of us were swindled by him. Now we know better

Regime is working OT on weekend on dismantling our alliances.

I can’t stand the fact that Poland is doing Literally What they wanted - spending a lot of money on defence. Yet, they bark at them.
- nothing will ever be good enough for the fascist. the point is not deals, the point is capitulation. there are winners and losers to the fascist. there is no mutual aid or benefit
  
  Thou are right! Someone once said that
  The US does not have allies. The US has only countries that are useful for a while.

It's weird because Starlink hasn't been around that long that we should have become reliant on it yet.