Bernie Sanders draws 10,000 supporters to Warren for a ‘Fight Oligarchy’ rally.

Warren, MICHIGAN. I would like to encourage anyone who posts local news to put clarifying geographical data in the title ... I've spent so many minutes of my life clicking thru to some local TV station's story and looking ... looking ... looking for any sort of clue where the hell they are.
- Thank you!! I didn't have to go through the spelunking exercise because of your comment!!

10,000 showed up to fight oligarchy—guess billionaires finally pushed us into revolution mode.
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It's interesting to watch this, and while Bernie is slightly left to my values, how come this octogenarian gets it and the rest of the party doesn't? I'm just amazed that some democrats interpret this as "let's align with MAGA" a little more, instead of calling those "right wing radicalists". The future of Dems is to be the anti-oligarchy party. While I understand how risky this may be as unlimited dark money pouring in can tilt things, but people still have the power if they unite.
- One third of Americans voted for Donald Trump. One third of Americans did not vote.
  Two thirds of Americans a) think that Kamala Harris, forget Bernie Sanders, was too conservative, or b) do not give a fuck.
  The idea that there is this massive left wing sentiment that will bubble to the surface if the Democrats annouce their Five Year Plan simply isn't something born out by the numbers.
  
  affordable education and universal healthcare would be popular drawing forces.
- No fucking way anti-oligarchy is the future of the party. The Dems are going to run the same tired playbook of courting the center and hoping the Republicans shit the bed. They are already saying this loudly and often.
  
  No fucking way anti-oligarchy is the future of the party.
  We'll see. It would be quite tragicomical after they just got punished for moving towards the center like the second humiliating time around. At least Bernie's showing the path.
- If Bernie fucking Sanders is too far left for you then you're definitely part of the problem
  
  Agreed, Sanders only has the working class at heart throughout his career. Is he perfect? Of course not. If you are working class and you think Bernie is bad…. You really need to reconsider who you are and where you stand.
  
  While too far left could mean this, the op just said "slightly left". Of course, if what you meant is that Bernie Sanders is barely left enough, that anyone to the right of him is the problem, then nvm.
  
  Here we have somebody being polite and engaging in politics@lemmy.world. I come to this community because I wish to talk to people who are more right-wing than me. Let's not shoo them away please.
  
  yawn.
  Edit: if you go on calling people "part of the problem" for considering Bernie slightly to their left in a post that praises him, then you are actually part of the problem and you don't even realize it.
- How in the fuck is Bernie too far left for you? America is way too far fucking right wing, that's insane
  
  America is way too far fucking right wing, that’s insane
  It generally is, especially from the European perspective but not entirely. If we put aside present republican posturing, the USA is very immigration-friendly right and left whereas in Europe the right wing is extremely against any kind of immigration.
  How in the fuck is Bernie too far left for you?
  You guys are way too inclined to think in extremes. Slight = difference between democratic socialist vs. social democrat.
- It's interesting to watch this, and while Bernie is slightly left to my values, how come this octogenarian gets it and the rest of the party doesn't?
  Which party? The Democrats? He's not part of them since they crushed him and his followers in 2016, preferring to back H.Clinton to a stunning loss against Trump.
  They don't get it because they are also a party more interested in supporting oligarchs than the working person. They still think that Trump beat them through disinformation, when it was really that they lost because their track record since Carter has been to back big business over the needs of the common people. Clinton and Obama should have been ripping up Regan's / Bush's legacy, but they just tweaked it. All Trump did was speak to that, even though he had no intention of doing anything about it.

Proper barnstorming.
- But they’re dems! What about the GeNoCiDe!
  
  Sanders isn't a democrat.
  I get that you like mocking anyone who isn't on board with genocide like you are.
  
  Unlike most of the Democratic Party, Bernie does not support the ongoing genocide in Palestine.

When is Harris' anti-oligarchy rally? Obama's? LOL, Pelosi's? Why the fuck does this one guy who should be retiring on a beach somewhere have to keep dragging the entire Democratic party? I love Bernie, but it's beyond pathetic that after all these years it's still his job.
- Never. They are the oligarchy.
- They're protecting their capital.
- Because none of those other people want to. The only reason they even allow Bernie to do as much as he does is to placate progressive liberals, if they didn't folks might start figuring out that reform doesn't work.
- In all fairness, Harris’s political ambitions are over. She lost to Trump, she should probably just stay out of politics now.
  
  She's saying she might run for Cali governor...
- When is yours? Why is the “dragging” mentioned by you while others are doing more than you?
  
  Any of the people they mentioned would have massively more influence than a random Lemmy poster.
- Opposition party doesn't get to sleep when they are the minority or voted out. It's their job to rally and agitate. That they do not means they are actually okay with what is happening
  
  Yes, so now they've lost they just tell the country "Fuck you. Told you so!".
  GP is asking why have they stopped fighting.
  
  It's astounding how thoroughly the Democrats have convinced you that absolutely nothing is ever their fault. They are just fellow victims of a declining society that they had absolutely no hand in creating. Unbelievable.
  It wasn't just the establishment issuing warnings. The left has been telling the Democratic establishment for decades that they were leading us here, even before we knew his name would be Trump. Neoliberals disregarded the flashing danger signs over and over again.
  Where we are now isn't because of a single election. Do you think the Democrats were going to win every election forever? Do you think the Republicans were going to get any nicer? This war has been raging for over 50 years and you're obsessing over one battle. Kamala and the rest of the establishment earned this outcome.
  
  They already did their part
  If by "their part" you mean throw away the most winnable presidential election in history by sticking to pro-corporate party orthodoxy from 1992 in spite of two thirds of their base imploring them not to, then yes. They sure did their part.
  
  Not worth courting, evidently. But at least you got Dick Cheney.
  
  Isn't it 1.5% for the popular vote for the whole country or just winning the right swing states would have taken 1.5% more votes?
  Edit: see my analysis down there, she needed an extra 0.15% votes in her favor, she just needed those votes in three States, the 1.5% number is for the National vote which has no influence on who becomes president, as we've seen when Trump won while Hillary got 2.1% more votes.

This is the way.

Based Shawn fein