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Banned for calling out a Zionist

Banned last night and all my comments removed for calling out a Zionist troll who FREQUENTLY posts comments trashing Palestinians and celebrating death in the name of Israel.

But I'm the one that gets banned for Checks Notes "Rule 3: No Nazis, QAnon or similar"

What a circus, mods did ZERO due diligence before banning and the Zionists comment remains!

So, one of these 4 is a certified Power Tripping Bastard

*Edit: NOT TO MENTION the frequency with which I am in the Ukraine comm in support of Ukraine and correcting false comments and shit, THE KIND OF SHIT A MOD IS FOR.

Edit 2 I will concede that maybe I posted in haste. I was seeing red for a moment there because how the fuck is a user like that still just out and about commenting.

I would just like anyone who reads this to start being more aware of WHO you are interacting with on Lemmy and be more mindful of the scum around here that have popped up more and more as reddit migrants come in. We should NOT be "tolerant" of these people, they can go fuck off to X and Meta and their other fascy platforms.

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  • Randomly calling people "zionists" raises red flags. Seems more of a bpr to me

    • Actually, that user has been banned from your instance: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/shoulderoforion@fedia.io

      • Yes, and he's no innocent victim. OP has the correct assessment. But agree with everyone else that this comes across as a BPR/YDI, because it was completely out of context.

        It's more useful imo to report the comments of that user each time they say something hateful, so they can get banned on their home instance.

    • Maybe go read some of his comments and you'll get it. No we shouldn't give an inch to people who celebrate death of innocents. and the REASON given for the ban makes zero sense.

      • If you call someone a Zionist for making an innocuous comment, even if they really are a Zionist, you are still in the wrong because you assume your audience already knows they are one.

        Since nobody else knows the history, they just see you being an asshole.

  • I knew who the user was before I even opened this. Everytime I see that username in a news or politics sub I'm surprised they haven't been banned. Don't know if this was the right place to call them out, but I get your frustration.

    • Genuinely have no idea how he isn't banned off of his instance, he's said some incredibly racist shit about arabs.

      edit: his own words:

      what genocide? arabs attack, rape, and murder, then esconce the terrorists directly in and between civilian populations for the sole reason so that when israel responds the body count can be escalated and used as public relations. genocide. shame on you.

      • y i k e s

      • ~~fedia.io's admin has been known to be incredibly lax when it comes to banning their own users for hostility. I've seen them let way worse things slide before, and only quietly intervene if it gets big and bad enough to make fedia itself look bad.~~

        User's account was suspended, looks like they're taking things more seriously than they have in the past.

    • My favourite moment from them was when they were getting downvoted, so they accused the CCP of infiltrating the space.

    • Maybe someone should raise the issue to the fedia.io admin? @jerry@fedia.io ?

  • I'm going to go with PTB-BPR maybe?

    Don't get me wrong, fuck that guy in the picture. I've seen his comments - but just blatantly bringing it up when a lot of users aren't even going to know who he is (including the mod) it's understandable. So from their perspective it just looks like you called someone a zionist for no reason.

    But from my own perspective? PTB.

  • Just a general complaint.

    While I know that it's not always doable, when posts here don't contain a screen shot of the original comment or post, it makes it harder to give a damn about it.

    I mean, here you are making a claim that what you said didn't violate that rule, but we gotta jump through hoops to discover what was said.

    Regarding your edit, how often you use a community isn't relevant. You could spend hours every day in a C/, and that doesn't excuse you from community rules. Totally not useful for forming an opinion on a mod or admin action

    My own edit: you don't have anything in your user history for weeks that's in that community, so it makes that aspect even less relevant

    • Is the screenshot not showing for you? I posted a screenshot of the comment exchange.

      IMHO we as users of Lemmy should absolutely be hounding the scum from the platform unless we want this to devolve into the same shit reddit has (a trend i've seen more and more and more over the last 6 months or so)

      • IMHO we as users of Lemmy should absolutely be hounding the scum from the platform unless we want this to devolve into the same shit reddit has (a trend i’ve seen more and more and more over the last 6 months or so)

        Shouting 'Zionist' at someone when they aren't talking about Zionism-related issues makes you come off as a lunatic. It's more likely to get you hounded off the platform.

        It's not enough to be passionate. You have to be strategic as well.

      • I'm seeing one of the temp ban, and one mod names. That's all I'm getting here, via this app. I'll check another and see if that's the problem

      • Ahhh, it was the app not showing the other screen shot, but what that one shows is you going after someone unprovoked.

        Essentially, your own post is showing you harassing someone. So, definitely a YDI situation.

        Now, I get it, you want to be active against an ideology that you believe is harmful. That part is fine.

        But it absolutely is not fine to just follow people around and harass them everywhere, when they aren't displaying that ideology.

        If you have a serious concern about a user, the only acceptable way to go about handling it is to contact the admins of their instance and show them that not only is your belief fact based, but that the person is guilty of something worthy of having their account shut down.

        The mods in the community you were in, based on what you did, were absolutely right to take action. If anything, for someone that engaged in both an attack without direct, in-thread cause,, and as an attack of harassment, you got off light. That's the kind of behavior that merits a permanent ban in my book. You don't do that, it's disruptive and destructive to any community it happens in. It's a violation of the basic social contract of how communities work.

        You should have brought the problem to the attention of the mods, if you felt that the person shouldn't be allowed to comment there, not just go off because you tagged someone that you don't like

        Serious. With you having tagged the person, them not having said anything espousing a "zionist" stance in that thread, that is 100% harassment. Hell, if your instance admins shut down your account, it would be well within their scope, if they have anti-harassment rules in place.

        I mean, I'm sitting here as someone that has said it was a mistake at the end of ww2 to not kill every nazi in every country, and if someone was following someone around just making unsupported claims that someone else was a nazi, I'd ban the fuck out of them on any community I mod. Then I'd go look and see if they're right, and ban the Nazi if it was true.

        You can't do that shit, it isn't acceptable.

      • I see the screenshot

  • How would they know he's a neozionist from just your comment? But this seems to be a trend, also happened on reddit's worldnews, although the support for the brigade there was quite explicit and was actively used to try to prop up the "War on Israel" to the same level as Ukraine long after Iran had been dealt with.

    It's petty shit like that, trying to eliminate people from conversation so they don't have to deal with anyone with a history of supporting one of the good guys criticizing their genocide and ruining their "but we are also the good guys" narrative. Sort of why they get so defensive when they pull up the antisemitism label that Palestinians are also semites and that many groups that are antisemitic are also generally islamophobic outside of their hate circle with Arabs. These neozionist brigades have remained active long after Act-IL.

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