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Arm's to launch first self-made processors, poaching employees from clients: Reports

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Arm to launch first self-made processors, poaching employees from clients: Reports

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5mo ago

Arm to launch first self-made processors, poaching employees from clients: Reports

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5mo ago

Arm's to launch first self-made processors, poaching employees from clients: Reports

www.tomshardware.com /pc-components/cpus/arms-to-launch-first-self-made-processors-poaching-employees-from-clients-reports

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It can be really bad for the industry if ARM is both a producer of chips and the gatekeeper within the ARM ecosystem. I don't know if there are laws against this or loopholes through them, but what is going to prevent them from just withholding license or technologies to push competition out?
- This will accelerate riscv adoption and be the end of arm
  Or at least their $180B market cap
  
  I don't know about the end of arm, but I otherwise agree
- I would think, in the US, antitrust laws would apply.
  Is this different from Intel and x86 architecture? (Genuinely asking)
  
  Or AMD as well. They make custom configs for clients (Steam Deck, XBox, PS5), as well as their own fish direct competitors.
  So yeah, RISCV?
  
  I would think, in the US, antitrust laws would apply.
  ARM is brittish
  Is this different from Intel and x86 architecture? (Genuinely asking)
  yes the ARM architecture is it's own thing, licensed by ARM.
What the hell does that title mean? That sentence is so malformed.
- Understanding the headline requires prior knowledge of the industry and ARM specifically.
  Even without reading the article, I know that ARM is one of the only CPU companies I know of that designs CPUs but doesn't actually manufacture any of them for sale themselves. They license their CPU designs to other companies that use them in their own products which is why Apple can make their M silicon ARM CPUS for iOS devices and Qualcomm can their Snapdragon CPUs smartphone CPUs.
  What this article headline is saying that ARM, for the first time, is manufacturing its own CPUs and not just licensing their tech to others to do so. Further, ARM is apparently poaching employees from their licensees that have ARM CPU knowledge to do it.
  
  Even still you wouldn’t say “Arm’s”
  
  None of this makes the sentence less cumbersome. I understand what ARM does. I understand their relationship with other companies.
  The sentence is objectively awful.
- It is two articles in a trenchcoat. One is about Arm making CPU's. The other is about Arm poaching talent from companies it currently sells to.
  Instead of posting two articles with two different links about Arm Toms decided one was enough.
Arm reportedly to start competing with its own customers this year.
A few decades ago, this used to be a sure recipe for losing customers and marketshare, but the world has changed, maybe because the chip market lacks real competition, of course there is competition, but the number of players are too few, and they are too specialized for direct competition.
This is good for RISC-V.
Makes sense, they must be sick of their data center designs going unused, on top of all the consolidation going on.
Self-designed. Self-made is a stretch. It doesn’t look like they’re opening a foundry.
- I mean by that measure AMD doesn't make chips either...
  
  Yeah they don't, since they are fabless. Same as Nvidia or Apple. They all design chips.

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