Where is the creativity?

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My favorite is that their seeming takeaway from the success of Barbie is to go heads deep into TOY MOVIES.
- Ikr when we really want more Ryan gosling and Margot robbie! How is that not obvious to them???
  That said my favorite thing about it is they finally managed to nail that elusive women market and don't even understand why. Wonder woman, reboot Ghostbusters, so many half assed money grab attempts thinking feminism is just lame rah rah girl power. Yet it's the barbie movie that nails it and captures all audience's. And the answer is more toy movies haha.
  
  Sorry, but Barbie and feminism in the same sentence is painful to hear. Feminism is about changing society to make it more equal, not barbie... Barbie is about selling the most conservative toy ever (together with j.i.joe)
  That's why everyone is going to the toy movies. Because the political message of barbie is as fake as barbie, but it helps selling toys

It's there. To paraphrase Anton Ego though, new things need people to stick up for them. So if you see a new story, go see it and tell your friends. Everything Everywhere All At Once is a great example. Amazing movie, and it's stuck with me.
- I've heard so many good things about WH40k, but every time i search about it I get overwhelmed. Don't know where to start. Any tips?
  
  Dude I am 100% certain you replied to the wrong guy, because the only 40k stories I've read are Caiphas Cain books (which are pretty funny and entertaining).
  Not really into grimdark though; when positive change is impossible I tend to check out and lose interest in the story.
  
  Watch Alfabusa's If the Emperor Had a TTS Device! That's how I got introduced to it!
  Not only is it funny as hell and entertaining to boot, it's extremely informative as an introduction to the lore!
  Edit: A great resource to dive deeper after getting introduced to lore points is the good ol' wiki rabbit hole. :)
- Is there a community well suited for a topic like this? For now I'm gonna also list some not franchise/reboot etc. I won't exclude things based on books since I don't always know and they don't follow close always anyway.
  Horror : The Menu Barbarian The black phone
  Comedy : The unbearable weight of massive talent Spin me round Palm Springs
  I wish it was easier to see a list of things you have watched already. These are the few I can remember being happy with. I think it's action movies really that suffer from this trend and variation of playing it safe and a lot more freedom to take financial risks.
- I feel like EEAAO was somehow engineered to get people to say they like it for no particular reason, it almost feels like they made a movie that would be a social faux pas to say you didn't like it. But actually I found it super boring and it remains a mystery to me why top rated movies are what they are.
- Yeah yeah, EEAAO mentioned again. Again. How original.
  How many of you motherfuckers here watched RRR and why the fuck haven't you yet? It's the best movie of last year. Yes the intro makes it look like a generic action bollyflick with more money, but they actually did quite a fair bit beyond that.
  
  I mean I tried to watch RRR. It was ... unintentionally funny. But by all means go on hating popular thing.

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Why waste time write many movie when few movie do trick?

Where's the creativity?
In the accounting!

You need to remember that Hollywood is risk averse. They are not making things to make art but to make profit. Thats why there's like ten Fast and the Furious movies. Because they print money because car go fast boom explosion family.
When that realization hits home it makes perfect sense why we see remakes and adaptations and sequels. They already have a fanbase who will go see it.
- "You need to realize ...." ... exactly what the meme is calling out? It's calling them uncreative, not declaring their efforts null and void. No one is saying they fail at money. They fail at meat on bones.

EmpLemon has a fascinating video on this topic. His research suggested that original plots are 60% less present since the turn of the 21st century. https://youtu.be/k-tFYMzxi8Q?si=zhQCleagYetkzJX1
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Ironic that you’re complaining about creativity by recycling a meme 😂
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/good-mor-ning-sunshine
- except thats what Memes are for?
  
  And what are movies for if not for making money?

you should give the new wes anderson movie "the wonderful story of henry sugar" a try, it's fantastic in terms of creativity and really unique in it's storytelling.
i just finished watching it and i love it.

I'm convinced they just refuse to read and use books the way they used to. There's several books and series I'd love to see made instead of the same recycled shit.
But I guess you can't predict sales for something brand new and that's starting to bite us in the ass. We need more studios taking big risks on something new.
- I feel like they have poor track records in choosing books. They seem to only ever choose Young Adult Fiction... which isn't bad, but if the ones they tend to choose, they're usually very tropey.
  And we have A24 studios. They seem to be doing a pretty good job lately.
- I'm actually glad they don't really adapt books as much anymore. Their track record on adaptation in recent years have been such that they'll probably just ignore preestablished lore in favor of whatever bullshit they think will sell more a lá Halo.
  
  They've done that a lot, with nearly every series I can think of. But I'd rather them at least attempt to adapt something than say "we can't execute the source content exactly so we won't try"

Fucks sake even the original projects are just repainted iteration, Moana, Frozen, and Encanto are all Disney Princess stories, MAOI EVEN CRACKS JOKES ABOUT IT!

If you want creative movies try to check out some A24 movies.
Some examples: Ex-Machina, Swiss Army Men, The Lobster, The lighthouse, Everything Everywhere All at Once, Beau is Afraid, The Whale.

Shared universes are fine but yeah

I for one love gigantic universes that are fleshed out with tons of content. Then again I love warhammer 40k so maybe my opinion means less

Funny. Back in the day when Tumblr was big people loved theory crafting for these kinds of things (and those still there probably still do). Interesting to watch capitalism monitize and exploit facets of human life in real time
- And the monkey's paw curls another digit.
  Actually there is probably some irony referencing the events of a 120 year old story that has been re-made and referenced countless times to describe what is happening here.