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C.D.C. Posts, Then Deletes, Data on Bird Flu Spread Between Cats and People

www.nytimes.com CDC Posts, Then Deletes, Data on Bird Flu Transmission Between Cats and People

The data, which appeared fleetingly online on Wednesday, confirmed transmission in two households. Scientists called on the agency to release the full report.

What's going on here is that they're not allowed to publish data about actual issues under the Trump/Musk coup rules, because that might benefit regular folks instead of billionaires.

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1w ago

C.D.C. Posts, Then Deletes, Data on Bird Flu Spread Between Cats and People

www.nytimes.com /2025/02/06/health/cdc-bird-flu-cats-people.html

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Oh look, the CDC’s back at it—shadow-banning science because god forbid we connect the dots between Fluffy’s bird flu cough and grandma’s ventilator tango. Lab-leak logic applies to cats now? Guess zoonotic spillover’s just another checkbox on their apocalypse bingo card.
You wanna talk transparency? They yeeted the data faster than a hairball at 3 AM. Coincidence? Nah. They’d rather let us play “is it allergies or H5N1?” while Big Ag pumps chickens full of hope and antibiotics.
Wake up, plague rats. If the ”trusted institutions” can’t handle cat videos without spiraling into cover-up mode, maybe we’re the ones licking conspiracy pavement. My cat’s out here hacking up a lung—yours?

If they have to resort to those 10-second auto-delete snaps to get public health messages out, so be it, I suppose. Better than nothing.
- You can archive it at home and help grab snapshots.
  https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveTeam_Warrior
- Your tax dollars at work.
  
  I hate how accurate this is currently

whether it's plague, bullets, climate apocalypse, or meteor, whatever it is, i wish it would just hurry up and end us already
- Don’t forget nuke. I’m thinking those are now more likely than they have been since Cold War days.
  
  They do keep teasing us with that damn, sexy doomsday clock.
  Just vaporize me already.
  
  When you think about it nukes are the ultimate Chekhov's Gun.

Don't look up!
- I’ve watched that movie at least seven times. Exposure therapy maybe. Doesn’t even feel like satire.
  
  I can't watch that movie. I don't think I could deal with it. Which I know is ironic.
  
  Once was enough to crush me and I was in a good place at the time

He They haven’t just embargoed science, they’ve obfuscated credibility for the whole world and people will die.

If its able to go from
birds -> cats -> humans
why wouldn't it be able to go
birds -> cats -> human -> human?
- Because there's a whole range of processes involved in whether or not a pathogen can infect an organism (mode of transmission, various barriers including immune response, etc.) and a whole different range that determines whether or not an infected organism can spread a pathogen (mode of transmission again, viral load, vector capacity and competence, etc). For instance: assume the pathogen can infect an organism but can't replicate often enough to reach the required viral load in the host to spread further via it's usual mode of transmission. We'd end up with a dead end host instead of a pathogen reservoir/vector and the chain of infection would stop right there. That can be seen in the West Nile Virus for example when it infects humans or horses instead of it's normal host: birds. I don't know enough about influenza to tell whether that's a thing here or not but I hope it clarifies why infections are often not that straight forward especially if they involve zoonotic events.

https://archive.today/HpDnj

- That's what these assholes want. Nihilism.
  Don't give in.
  
  Nihilism out here catching strays for no reason...
- You know, I feel that sometimes too. Something that helps against it is a bit of hope.
  When you need help and a stranger stops to help you, without being asked, and for no reward and not filming it for fake internet points. Reminds me that there are still good people in the world.
  But they don't advertise, and assholes are very loud.
  Maybe the assholes are a vocal minority? It's hard to tell online, and when it seems like the whole world is bad, people behave badly to fit in.
  Sorry if I'm a bit philosophical, I woke up early today. I hope it helps if you want to get out of this funk. Maybe go somewhere where people volunteer? Get some soup at a soup kitchen, with a side of perspective.
  If you don't want to snap out of it, maybe consider not being part of the loud asshole group instead?

Whoops

So how do I access these brief posts? Is there an archive somewhere?
- I'm not sure; try asking the reporter

- It's infecting housecats too.
- If you had read the article you would know that they are talking about two instances with house cats and their owners. House cats appear to be highly susceptible to this strain of H5N1 and it is highly lethal to them. If a new strain has appeared that can spread from people to cats and from cats to people, that is a very, very bad thing.
  People who let their cats go outside would be as serious risk because cats can easily catch it from wild birds and then infect their owners. And every single human who catches the virus is a billion rolls of the dice for the virus to further mutate to spread from human to human.
  
  Birds dying to HPAI are very easy to catch too, so even the Garfield's out there can be exposed. I had a red tailed hawk crash out in my backyard and it was dead 24 hours later. I put it into a box (after it crashed and didn't move for 20 mins) but no rehab would take it, because there is nothing that can be done to help them.
- Housecats absolutely slaughter bird populations on the daily.
  
  Not my Mittens, he's a good boy!
  
  Wonder if you can you rent a bunch of them on a temporary basis? Invasive european starlings have overtaken my neighborhood and pushed a lot of native species out. Not only would that help the problem; it would be fucking adorable.
  Like buying ladybugs for your garden; you just crack open a crate of cats.

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