Why aren't all of you as vocal about Trump as you were Biden and Harris?
Why aren't all of you as vocal about Trump as you were Biden and Harris?
Why aren't all of you as vocal about Trump as you were Biden and Harris?
where did the free Palestine protestors go
Well a bunch of them got expelled, deported, blacklisted, arrested, and more. Many of their organizations were forcibly disbanded, and the campuses where they were active have been thoroughly militarized.
Tbf he did tell us he was going to do this before the election, but "blue maga" was in vogue at the time.
Some of the American ones got their faces eaten by leopards:
https://apnews.com/article/trump-arab-americans-michigan-gaza-plan-6014edae5196aa5bc2c1681452ec4cf8
“Many people expressed that concern, that maybe it was a mistake to vote for President Trump,” Hamad added.
Some Arab Americans who voted for Trump say they are concerned about his picks for key positions
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Ok, Fuck Israel. I confess, it's been a while since I typed that here.
I also wish more culpability was on them.
I understand that we want local action to urge changes. But honestly, if we stopped giving them weapons, I’m fairly sure another far eviler world superpower would snatch up the chance for a new ally.
Israel had its September 11 moments, and being a more vulnerable nation, turned it into an outlet of rage. More can be done by convincing Israelis this approach harms more than helps them, even creating new terrorists, rather than just washing America’s hands of it while the killing continues.
They won't listen. They won't learn.
Wtf are you talking about? Free Palestine protesters are still actively organizing their communities and providing support where they can. The same groups are literally still staging actions and fighting for the freedom, liberatation, and survival of Palestinian people at home and abroad. Who do you think you're clowning on with this meme? The people fighting against genocide didnt just give up because we have a new worse president.
They're literally at the White House as we speak lol....
The real question is why is OP still supporting a genocide now that it's trump in office and not Biden.
Like, it apparently wasn't about blind loyalty to Biden, they just authentically support genocide.
Rather alarming number of people I've encountered in the UK have a view something like "it's horrible, but they brought it on themselves". These don't seem to be straightforward horrible people. As they would also say the Holocaust and Armenia and Rwanda (etc) were evil.
“I started ignoring the pro-Palestinians because I decided I don’t care anymore. Where did all the pro-Palestinians go?” -OP
With that kind of "support", why have enemies? The Free Palestine movement is doing their opposition's work far better than they could. Helping along the movement's self-defeating strategy could be their best move: with a few more antagonistic governments, the Palestinian cause will be over in no time.
The people "fighting against genocide" in exactly one place in the world and no others played a not insignificant role in why we have a new worse president in the first place.
America and the west is so racist even the rise of fascism is blamed on brown people
It's just not being covered.
Attention is everything, folks. Palestine protestors could be mowed down on Capitol Hill, and if its blotted out by everyone's feeds... Well, it hardly even matters, it terms of policy and public opinion.
Welcome to why Trump is firehosing all these executive orders. Give nobody time to focus on anything, keep everyone fragmented and squabbling over where to focus...
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/1/28/students-protest-settlement-standards/
It's still happening, just not getting anywhere close to the level of coverage it was during the election. Because back in October the big US media companies were trying to paint Biden, Harris, Walz, and the entire Democrat party as being much worse than Trump would be for Palestine. I didn't see much coverage of Trump's relationship with Netanhyahu or looking back at what happened in 2017-2020 back the either.
Now that Trump has won there's no point in stoking any unrest. He's instead cracking down on protests and cancelling the visas of foreign students who are caught protesting.
Literally today. Just because you don't give a shit about Palestine and are ignoring their struggle, doesn't suddenly make it stop. The same groups who were protesting the genocide when it was happening under Biden are still out there protesting.
I can't help but feel like the Dems end goal with this kinda bullshit is to try and manufacture this idea that leftist outrage over Gaza is entirely fabricated. We couldn't really care about brown people, we must have made up a bunch of nasty lies to make Kamala Harris look bad! It's really self-telling that they can't imagine genocide would be a bridge too far.
It matters if lay people are aware. I think the post is a useful signal that awareness of the issue is getting drowned out by everything else falling apart.
I don’t think the dems care about leftists it’s other leftists who are saying yous have been had.
I think we just thought it was pretty silly of them to think Trump was gonna be better.
Pretty much no one thought he'd be better, more like not worse in a meaningful way. Obviously saying the US is going to turn Gaza into a resort is worse than not saying that, but that distinction is pretty unimportant to everyone who would be killed or driven out under a democratic president anyway. The end goal has always been to fully settle Palestine, what exact form that takes or whether the US funds it with a smile or a frown doesn't change that.
you don't give a shit about Palestine and are ignoring their struggle
Beggaring the question is bad-faith.
Neoliberal good cop/fascist bad cop was always a race to the bottom. This was inevitable so long as we fail to cut the capitalists down to size, and both parties are paid to defend their con game from us by stoking social issue division to stop the peasants from looking up at the oligarchs, our common enemies whether you've been brainwashed into worshipping them or not.
I voted for Harris out of attempted harm reduction as I do like clockwork for the lesser evil, but voting Neoliberal only slowed the sinking, it was never going to make things better, just worse a little slower as the Neoliberals kept meeting their opposition in the new middle every cycle to keep up with the market's demands for new, crueler ways to privately profit off human misery both parties are paid to defend and expand. A vote for continued quiet capitalist slaughter over loud, bragging capitalist slaughter. Not peace. Under Harris, healthcare rackets would still be murdering Americans legally, homeless Americans would still be dying in droves literally as a point to keep the laborers fearful as it would be cheaper to house them then deal with the fallout of them being homeless, etc.
But by all means keep the focus of your ire on the people who had nothing to vote for, only against for the last half century. You're basically attacking the silent cowards in 1930 Germany and not the Nazis.
There are only 2 ways this ends, either the Mario's brother method, or capitalist enforced climate change will collapse the capitalist's con game and human civilization for us if humanity is too chickenshit to depose the economic metastasis, growth or and die capitalist cult and embrace economic equilibrium with environmental homeostasis. The parties are captured. No amount of voting will fix this. Reagan and Kemp saw to that when they captured their opposition. The last vote Americans had on the shape and priorities of our inhuman economy was in 1980, we only get a vote on how to address the social wedge symptoms of it, and only if addressing those symptoms won't meaningfully effect quarterly earnings expectations.
Whether it was Trump in 2020, this, or one of his mutant children in another 4 years, our tolerance and worship of greed was going to lead to this. Maga, Trump's rise as more than a gameshow host con-man, and imperialism are symptoms of our avarice rot induced collapse, not the causes. The cause are the capital markets being allowed to infect our politics and override any societal values we ever had prior to other than metastasize at all human cost.
Fully agree. There are exactly two options for people at this point: fully capitulate and gargle fascist balls (this hastens world death), or kill fascist scum at every opportunity (this may slow world death if done with enough gusto)
We are still protesting?
I haven’t seen a single group of protesters on my daily like i used to before the election and I’m in Canada. People have short attention spans and move on, just ask Ukraine who was forgotten by non Ukrainians as soon as the next one came up. In Canada we’re on to the fuck American products movement. People don’t actually care as much as they yell out. Commenting on Reddit and Lemmy is about all they do now.
They are no longer getting paid by republican PACs trying to foment dissent
"FomEnT DissenT" bitch hearing my friend died in lebannon is all the payment I need. The dems the ones fomenting dissent with all those bombs they sent to a genocidal regimes.
They didn't go anywhere, but the media now doesn't need to paint the current admin as "the bad guys" by highlighting the protest groups, so they are not getting the same amount of screen time.
Now the playbook is to make it look like everyone agrees with the governments stance, so quash the protests, ignore their efforts, arrest the instigators.
This is most of it. And there’s obviously some sock puppet stuff too, but the Lemmy community is so small they probably never targeted it. But mostly it’s because getting coalitions to infight has always benefited the people who took power a few weeks ago. Now they have nothing more to gain by promoting it and everything to lose by making people think it’s still a problem. So…
Pretty sure they probably got deported after Trump signed that executive order to deport pro-palestinian protestors.
Why aren't y'all as vocal about an ongoing genocide as you are about a completely failed candidate from months ago?
Looks like outside the White House today...
Why are people still shitting on the people protesting genocide now that Biden isn't in charge?
I thought it was blind loyalty to the letter D, but if that was the case you'd be against genocide now...
“I closed my eyes, why can’t I see anything?” -OP
We do. If we couldn't convince fucking Biden why do you think Trump is gonna care
Fediverse is fucking glowing
Yeah I'm sure that's it, you nailed it. It turns out that everyone that disagreed with you last year was actually a secret Russian agent. It's definitely not that primaries and the run up to the presidential election are unique opportunities to push the Democratic candidates father left. Who knew?!
gr8b8m8
Is it? it's so owrn out it's not even mediocre at this point.
Those same folks where never going to support anything regardless. Biden is too old! Genocide Joe! Trump will fix it! Nothing but bullshit all the way down.
They all went to Jill Stiens cave to hibernate until next general election.
Misinformation but if that makes you feel better feel free to believe that.
they were getting paid by the same people, so this makes perfect sense
Because it's accelerationists cosplaying as leftists.
Still here, way less inclined to waste my time. I'm just not going to waste my time on the centrists who insist that the left is small and unpopular so we should only cater to the right of the democratic party. They were wrong, we're fucked because of it, but they want a punching bag to try and alleviate their feelings and I don't care to be that anymore.
Look up the word "genocide" in your posting history.
This is you. You care way more about what a bunch of american voted than the actual genocide. You're spending way more energy whining about your stupid elections than trying to do something about the genocide.
You don't give a fuck about foreigners. You only care about yourself and your country. You don't deserve to win elections.
Hi there. This is the second thread I've seen you post this rhetoric. As an American who lives 6000 miles away from Israel, what exactly are you expecting? You want us to all take up arms, fly over the Atlantic Ocean and fight? If you are going to harshly condemn Americans actions, then at least provide a reasonable alternative to these actions.
The reality is Americans are doing this because elections is a way a lot of us feel like we can make a difference (regardless of the validity of these beliefs). To people who lack the ability to make predictions, the presidential election seemed like a lose/lose scenario regarding the topic of the Genocide of Palestinians. To people who have the ability to make predictions, they understood that voting Trump into power would result in more harm coming to the Palestinians, so we reluctantly went out and voted for Harris.
Here we are today, and most of our predictions regarding Trump is coming true, so some of us are now trying to rub it in the faces of the Americans who probably should have voted for Harris, but decided to sit home or vote third party on election day...
Now, I do hear you though. Ultimately, it sucks the most for Palestinians who are living the Genocide. Unfortunately, there isn't much the average American can do about it, so we instead focus on topics that feel more practical (like the elections and American politics).
It was a TikTok disinformation campaign and they are embarrassed to learn how fake the whole movement was.
Ah yes my dead friend in lebannon is a tiktok disinformation campain.
Jeez one day I will find the mods who leave this kind of shit and fucking stab them.
And my Trump voting Mom has friends in Gaza, while my Brother in laws Muslim Boss voted for Trump.
Dumbasses vote for dumbass things. But I'll call you out on it. The dumbass move was fucking with Joe and Hariss when they were our best chance for peace.
If you think the Uncommitted movement was fake or a TikTok disinformation campaign then I suggest going outside and touching some grass.
yikes brother yikes
TikTokers are clueless. That’s how the communist like it.
They are just not that important in comparison with all the other crap going on.
Idk if you know this but there is a ceasefire right now. Most of the protests i went to were in response to some escalation or atrocity: new "aid" package being sent, expansion of the war into Rafah, expansion into Lebanon, ground forces going in etc. People tend to protest against escalation events but we are currently in a period of deescalation.
You should expect to see them again in response to trump's latest proposal, it's not going to happen overnight since this came out of nowhere, or when the first phase of the ceasefire expires and people protest to keep it going.
Also wtf is this aneurysm posting "it went from free Palestine to the Rivera of the middle east in 16 days" what does that even mean? And they say the pro-palestine people are bots.
Building a world conquering engine takes time, resources, blood, sweat, and tears. In short, I know I can't force the hands that bind, but if I keep on moving toward that goal, eventually, the calvary IS coming, and they are going to slaughter every last one of these bastards.
because they were all protesting biden and the left, now we can't protest biden and left because he's retired on a beach somewhere.
You could protest trump, i guess.
Realistically, i think the protests just died out when the college students stopped caring, those were the only people actually protesting.
People were/are protesting at the White House literally today.
I'm seeing ton of leftists post about it on the good parts of Lemmy like hexbear. Don't know why libs don't care about genocide 🤷
Nah, tankies only care about Gaza to dunk on the west. You don't care about the suffering. Fuck Israel btw.
They're over here, and they don't want to end up over there. So they probably are staying quiet cause the guy they helped elect wants to send them over there, wherever that ends up being.
Regret: https://youtu.be/9uMe9nebWOo
Probably because they like the hateful things he's doing. Bunch of hypocrites