Tesla pulls out all the stops as Cybertruck sales grind to a halt

If you do not revolt against the government, you will receive a free cybertruck as a replacement for your house, which will be too expensive to live in.
Each immigrant willing to leave voluntarily will receive a free cybertruck.
The US military, firefighters, EMT's and police force will get new vehicles! They will all start to use cybertrucks.

Muskie boy, have you tried suing people to get them to buy the truck?

I knew they should have built a real smoke and engine noise generator into the cyber truck. So that all those who insist on polluting, don't have to be left out.

Uplifting news

I was one of those that put down a deposit and happily waited for this truck to replace my 25 year old car. Then after he called the diver/rescuers pedophiles, I was instantly turned off. Now I actively push others to not buy a Tesla and refer to all Teslas as a Nazi mobile.
Get fucked Elon.
- Wow, the Cybertruck was announced that long ago?
  
  No, the cave thing happened in 2018, but the Cybertruck was announced late 2019.
- Fucking why dude? Elon shit aside, you ostensibly knew what this thing looked like, right?
  
  I honestly don't mind the design. Sure some people hate it, but I didn't care about others opinions on my car. That's why my current vehicle is 25 years old. At that time, I was looking for a larger EV and during that time large EVs were nonexistent.
  What sold me was the functionality. The concept had bench front row seating so I could seat 6(which they removed in the final). It had a usable trunk unlike the EVs at the time. There was frunk which was only on Teslas at the time. Also Tesla at the time had the highest safety rating among all cars. A promising auto pilot (which is a lie).
  It also claimed to have a bullet proof shell and glass. While Seattle is relatively safe, there have been many instances where people have been murdered for road rage or just existing at a red light
  
  The thing is, for a truck that’s used for truck shit, functionality, practicality, and reliability are probably the most important. Styling will always be relevant to customers, but should be a secondary concern for a tough utilitarian vehicle.
  It’s too bad they flipped those priorities and made an overpriced junky status symbol. I think Elon wanting people to see the “amazing” design was one of the main drivers behind it getting released when it did. It was clearly not ready 5 years ago since it’s still not ready now.
- Honest questions: What attracted you to it? Do you like the design?
  
  I will admit, when the first mentions of it came out, and it was going to be this cheap, capable, all-electric futuremachine, I was tempted to put down a deposit. At first I thought the design was functional, to keep manufacturing cheap and have a durable, Midwest-proof vehicle between the stainless and aluminum.
  It turned out to be 100% the opposite of what I had imagined, so thankfully figured I’d wait. Decided keep my 10 year old car until it NEEDS replacement (which it does not).
  
  Not OP, but regardless of it being ugly, it is novel and kind of goofy look, which has some appeal. Like buying a car designed by a child it’s sort of “fun”.
  Otoh, I don’t have the cash to throw away on “fun”, and regardless, funding a nazi definitely ruins the fun, so even if I won the lottery, I’d have to find my fun elsewhere I suppose.
  Also worth noting, ignoring all of that, the fact it was built so poorly and is clearly just flawed in ways that go well beyond the aesthetics also ruins it, even if musk wasn’t a nazi and the car wasn’t ridiculously expensive.
  
  I honestly don't mind the design. Sure some people hate it, but I didn't care about others opinions on my car. That's why my current vehicle is 25 years old. At that time, I was looking for a larger EV and during that time large EVs were nonexistent.
  What sold me was the functionality. The concept had bench front row seating so I could seat 6(which they removed in the final). It had a usable trunk unlike the EVs at the time. There was frunk which was only on Teslas at the time. Also Tesla at the time had the highest safety rating among all cars. A promising auto pilot (which is a lie).
  It also claimed to have a bullet proof shell and glass. While Seattle is relatively safe, there have been many instances where people have been murdered for road rage or just existing at a red light

I wouldn't take a cybertruck if it was free, ignoring musk entirely it's just a bad vehicle.
The only place I'll drive a Cybertruck is in Fortnite because there I want my car to be unsafe.
- I wouldn't take a cybertruck if it was free
  You're being ridiculous, why would you seriously think that? That kind of internet opinion doesn't hold up in real life. I would absolutely take a free Cybertruck, I've long dreamed of making my own car bomb.
- My boys specifically go after anyone in a Fortnite cyber truck.
- I even purposely avoided the free Fortnite Cybertruck.

I got some advice for them: Fire your CEO.
- Fire the CEO, for him to sell all his stock, recall all the trucks and go over them with a fine tooth comb for quality issues, force them all through safety tests and fix anything that's unsafe, lower the price by 40%..., get rid of the tracking bullshit, You'll still have a uglyAF "truck" but it might just be sellable.
  
  Fixing safety issues would have to include that sharp front end. Maybe just ditch the entire "stainless" exterior and restyling the whole thing would help with that.
  Pretty much start with the battery pack and drivetrain, start over after that.
- Look at the havoc that dude leaves in his wake. Prime choice for president.
- Fire your CEO.
  Out of a canon, through some flaming rings, and into an empty bucket of water. If I have to watch a clown-show, at least make it entertaining.
  
  Empty bucket of water? But we booked the shark - infested waters over a year ago!
  
  Which would win? Clown or concrete wall? Let's find out!

I’m betting high odds he will force the federal government to buy them under the guise of a green EV transition. With trump’s full blessing, of course.
- Ugh. I can see this happening.
- The shittiest way to transition the government to ev.
- Maybe he'll force their sale to Ukraine, so Trump can pretend he supports them even while the cybertrucks break down in the field faster than Russia's WWII era tanks.
  
  They'd get better use out of them by turning the batteries into anti personnel landmines.
- I don't like him because he is racist, transphobic, and attempting a Coup in My country.
  
  Nah, I hate him because when you look past his wealth, his "accomplishments", and his fandom, you are left with nothing but a piece of shit human being.
  
  I don't need the Internet to tell me not to like Nazis. As a decent human being it's just natural.
  
  Hi Elon. No, we hate you because you know you have Asperger's, think yourself smart, but are blind to the fact that you need people in your life to filter your thoughts and actions to cover your weak areas and flawed perceptions.
  Only a fool thinks himself beyond improvement. Elon Musk is a great example of squandered potential and self delusion.
  
  I've hated him since the "that pedo guy" incident years ago.. I think that is when people started really waking up to the fact he's an incredibly insecure manchild. A bunch of poor kids trapped in a cave.. "how can I make this about ME?"
  
  nah, i also enjoy pointing and laughing when i see a cybertruck on the highway
  edit (and at the people driving them)
  
  ....you get dropped a lot as a baby or what?

It is not a good pickup truck regardless of Musk being a fascist
- It certainly doesn't look very useful. It looks like you asked a 5-year-old to draw a "cool truck."
  
  It is, Elmo has the mind of a 5 year old.
  
  I'm generally all for that idea. Everything is the same gravel color now, and oversized and shitty. They could have made something that looked different but was still useful. They just failed.
- Pretty amazing how much you can milk fragile masculinity. Like actually astounding how badly these people need the vague idea of manliness to survive. It kinda makes me feel bad for them, that's learned behavior.
- It looks like musk gave a verbal description of a truck to someone who never seen one before and they just went with it.

All they had to do was build a solid, reliable truck, and not be fascist. Instead they build a poorly glued together piece of shit and sieg heil. I fucking hate this timeline.
- Don't hate the timeline, hate the news. There are real people out there still trying to make the world work, getting stepped on, pushed over, marginalized, silenced. They need you. They need all of us. Do not let The Bastards win.
  (I'm still workshopping the "don't hate the player hate the game" - suggestions are welcome. Words can still inspire people, even before coffee)
  
  Thanks, friend. Much needed words. Maybe I’ll put my decades of counter strike to good use at some point.
- I still refuse to see it as a truck. The defining feature of a truck is its bed, and the bed on this thing is presented as an afterthought. Covered, undersized, impossible to access from the sides. It’s just a tank. A penis prosthesis for the undersized.
- I fucking hate this timeline.
  I keep seeing people say this. However, hate is what created this timeline. I don't believe it's what will get us into a new one.
  I mean no offense towards you; I want you to know this. I guess I just finally realized what it is that bothers me about that statement. In fact, I share your sentiment. Because not only are they poorly made, common sense safety measures are removed and replaced with poorly engineered crap that traps people, while other badly designed components catch fire and burn them to death.
  
  First time I’ve used this phrase, myself. But I had such hope for the future and I guess I am finally admitting my hope is gone.
  
  That hate came from somewhere.
  
  That hate came from somewhere.
- And SpaceX had such good publicity, also notably one aesthetically the very opposite of sieg heil.
  I mean, aesthetics of Tesla advertising and design and everything were pretty different from SpaceX from the very beginning. I wonder how could Musk be the founder of both. Maybe they'll find traces of a brain worm in him too. Can't be solely ketamine.
  
  I wonder how could Musk be the founder of both
  he's not a Tesla founder, he only bought it
  
  He has never founded or invented anything. Every business he owns, he bought from others. In some cases he forced them to refrain from claiming to be founders at all. He's pathetic scum.
  
  Does it though? I have had a real hard time giving a shit about space fir a while now goven Musk's musk is tainting it.

Have they tried suing people who don't want to buy one?
- In case you weren't referencing this, be amazed:
  https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sue-cybertruck-buyers-they-resell-in-first-year-2023-11?op=1
  
  I was referencing how Elon is suing companies for not wanting to advertise on X. But this is amazing, too.
  
  Tesla may also refuse to sell you any future vehicles
  Oh no 😥
  
  Probably an effort to prevent scalping. Oh, how optimistic they were...
- You joke, but I wouldn’t be shocked if someone in particular gets that brainwave before too long
- They should force the government use cybertrucks for employe transportation just like Elon did with X and NTSB
  
  That might be the biggest harbinger of whether musk or Trump is running things. Trump has banned fed government from buying EV.
- You mean These people
  
  Whoa, there was a lot of fElon fellatio in the replies on that site.
- So much of the promo for the Tim and Eric mandatory attendance world tour 2020 has come true it’s fucking insane, man

So... how long before the federal government buys up a couple million of these things...?
- Time for the US military to replace all their humvees?
  
  Those things are rolling IEDs. I can't even begin to imagine how that would play out.
  
  They just started rolling new postal trucks off the line so now seems like a good time to cancel that contract and sign a new one to replace them with Cyber trucks.
- MMW Police and the Feds in US gonna be required to only have Cybertrucks in the (dystopian) future. Welcome to Night City 2077.
  
  It's pretty funny because they kinda look like straight out of judge dredd. The shitty one.

Why isn't the puny, petulant man-thing that runs the Nazicar Factory not suing us all for not buying them? That's how you deal with advertisers who don't wanna advertise with him so why not consumers who don't want to consume?
It's the next stupid, asinine step.
I hope anyone who ever admired this fuck face is deeply embarrassed. Or losing money.
- Give him some time. Once his cronies get everything working right he won't have to sue, he can just deny federal benefits to people who don't order a cybertuck and send their hearts out to him when they receive it.
- Idk man, it was the Nazi salute and hostile takeover of the US government for me.
  But you go ahead and gargle those Nazi balls
  
  This guy sucks Elon's toes

I think the reason Cybertruck sales have ground to a halt has to do with their CEO Department's way of managing things and breaking into Governmental Agency's Private Information. It's also the reason you will find "FUCK ELON MUSK" being spray-painted onto Cybertrucks.

This should surprise no one. The reception was poor, delivery was poor. It’s a niche market item in an existing niche market. On top of that, the de facto spokesperson of Tesla isn’t well liked by a lot of potential buyers.
- "niche market," is a way of saying they made a bad product few want.
  pickup trucks are hardly a niche product especially in the us
  
  I don't think I'd call that thing a pickup. I'm not gonna run to the farm and pick up a 1000lb bale of hay in that thing. A Baja looks like it has more bed space.
  
  It makes more sense if you start from the other side - EVs are a niche market, and an electric truck is a small subset of that.
  The Cybertruck sold 38,965 units last year, vs 33,510 for the Ford F150 Lightning.
  
  To be fair, it's valid to cater to niche markets.
  However, that wasn't what Tesla was aiming to do.
  
  pickup trucks are hardly a niche product
  Tanks camouflaged as pickup trucks are.
  
  And the cybertruck is hardly a pickup truck. What were you saying?
- Just wait till DOGE start requiring it for all government vehicles
  
  "What?! You all wanted electric mail trucks, so here they are!"
  (Sadly / Probably)
  
  I'd like a GTA singleplayer cheat making every police car a cybertruck that can't pursue you for long and would rather lose control and do a barrel roll than even get close to you.
- "Isn't well liked" is quite the understatement. "Despised" is more like it. I actually like the way the cybertruck looks, I think the technology is interesting, and if I really wanted to, I could probably afford one.
  I wouldn't drive one if it was given to me for free. I'd rather take a taxi every day than drive a public display of support for the treasonous fascist manchild that owns the company.
  Tesla's second biggest problem is their shit standards and quality control. Their first biggest problem is their shit corporate leadership.
  
  I swear that every time I saw one, the people around would point and laugh. 100k+ to drive a car that is always broken and mocked by everyone is quite expensive.
- I mean off the bat that's one of the worse combinations of people/product I've ever seen. I mean off the bat electric car's target market is people that want to think they are doing something better for the environment.
  So... then the guy making them goes loudly in the "fuck the environment" group.
  To top it off though, Cybertruck itself always confuses me. I don't know who the target audience is. The original tesla's I could look at and think, that's a cool car, if they ever came down in price I'd be interested.
  Cybertruck you look at and think... What a car would look like if you scaled up games from the 32/64 bit console era and made them HD without increasing the polygon count.
  
  My problem with Tesla is that so many things seem half-unthinking, half-finished or half-assed:
  Unthinking: I know! I'll put a ledge in from of the headlights, so snow can pile up while I'm driving!
  Unfinished: all the seam mismatches and eternally unfinished-but-really-close! full self-driving (it ain't gonna happen).
  Half-assed: that recall they had to do because sometimes the latch doesn't catch properly and the hood flies open when you're driving and blocks your view. Tesla's solution isn't to fix or replace the hood latch so this doesn't happen; they push a software up that monitors the hood latch and pops up a warning, telling you to pull over and check the hood latch. Because apparently fixing the issue that their poor design (see #1) and bad implementation (see #2) doesn't warrant an actual fix, they're just going to fob the risk , the cost and the work off to the customer.
  
  The target audience is monied tech bro millenials who really wanted a warthog out of Halo.
  The problem is that the overlap between tech bros and nazi lovers is definitely not 100%, probably not even 10%.
  
  We're not all buying EVs for the environment. I bought an EV because I think the car is cool and it's really enjoyable to drive. It's nice that the "gas" is also significantly cheaper, but that wasn't high on my list of reasons to get the thing, either.
  The EV owners I've talked to didn't buy them for the environment, either, but I haven't talked to any Leaf owners or anything. Maybe they're more environmentally conscious. It being better for the environment long term is definitely nice, and I hope progress continues on batteries made with less toxic components.
  Thankfully, I did not buy a Tesla and they were never on my list of options because of Elon. So he definitely alienated a customer due to him being an awful human being. I also won't use any of their charging stations, since I don't want them to profit off of me.
- Plus the initial sales were to people who had already committed to preorders at a lower price for a truck that was hyped up to be far better than the end result.
  Cybertrucks are basically No Man's Sky but without the possibility of being good in a half decade.
  
  Cybertrucks are basically No Man's Sky but without the possibility of being good in a half decade.
  Dag, yo. 🔥
- Isn’t well liked…. Is a Nazi.
- Let's not forget the quality. Also poor.
- Plus it looks stupid, like what my drawings of a car looked like at 5 years old
- It is jaw dropping that only 40,000 of their one million+ reservations actually turned into sales. Thats 4% conversion!
  Also, trucks are not a niche market. And there is pretty minimal overlap between the kind of douche who wants one of these and people who object to Musk’s behavior. It’s designed for his cult, especially.

Nazi truck.
- Apparently Elon hates it when you call them swasticars, so definitely do not do that.
  
  *SwastiKKKar
  
  I'm not sure why, but every time I see one I think of a giant tick that has guzzled way too much blood and is about to explode.
- I can understand why Nazis like it, given the truck's habit of trapping you inside as it engulfs you in flames.
- Wankpanzer
  
  Apartheidsemi
- Fashcan?

All DEI fault for this failure
/s (if it wasn’t obvious 🙂)
- Na this is caused by immigrant /s
  
  Na this is caused by the radical left /s
- It's closer to the Haitians eating ducks, I think. I sniff glue.

I remember posting about how a guy with a cybertruck would be an immediate no go for me and I was told by a guy I was being too judgy lol
- It’s a solid real world filter.
  This is definitely more acceptable than “no social media” being a red flag. Got that one before lol
  
  No social media is a green flag IMO.
  
  I give the gift of a free bird to any I pass on the street.
  
  Is no social media a red flag?
- Imagine a cyber truck bro listening to Joe Rogan in that thing. How does that not make every woman in sight instantly aroused?? /s
  
  My panties are soaked! I'm also a pudgy middle-age dude.
- Being honest, if I heard about a woman that has cybertruck red flags (assuming you're cis/het), that's genuinely more attractive to me.
- This is valid just on taste alone. The thing was ugly even before Elon started his descent into madness.
- Rich enough to own a cyber truck, but not bright enough not to own a cyber truck. Yeah it's what they "call look at me" energy.
  Politics notwithstanding people like that are just tiring to be around.

Is that "all stops", as in they will get rid of that guy who very definitely did a Nazi salute?
- Best they can do is promote him.
  
  What do you get for a guy whose dick gets sucked by the president?
- This just in: Tesla's new moniker "Arbeit Macht Frei" tracks poorly with most human beings.
- Seriously, why the fuck is he still CEO of that company? He's actively undermining them in every way on a global scale. Tesla shareholders are idiots...
- "pulling out all the stops" probably means removing the minorities and anti-fascists from the tesla payroll.
- I don't even think he even commented on his Nazi salute after he did it. Which is even more damning.

Who would have thought the preorders all dried up when they advertised it at $39,900 but launched it at $60,990.
- Were people allowed to cancel orders due to that price hike?
  
  Yep…
  Until your Cybertruck is delivered, you may cancel your reservation at any time and receive a full refund of your pre-order payment.
- Have they actually sold any for that little?
  
  Well no…cause they advertised it as a base price so I kept like and like together. That 60K price is for the RWD model that isn’t even out yet. The AWD model starts at just shy of 80K.
- Exactly I thought this would be a purely functional truck at a good price, but for that much it is not worth it

Tesla initially projected sales of 500,000 Cybertrucks annually and established production capacity at the Giga Texas for 250,000 units per year.
I’d have guessed coke, not ketamine, as drug of choice to make these estimates. Maybe he’s already counting federal agencies to be stiffed with the cyberwanker?

I certainly find it funny that Tesla's waiting list went from five years down to zero. Even Tesla's biggest fans who actually stumped money on this thing produced video after video griping about its price & brokenness.
But frankly it was kind of obvious from the get-go that it would be an expensive, uninsurable, lemony asshole death mobile. I wonder if the next time Tesla announces something and Musk spews lie after lie about it that people will start to cotton on that nothing he says can be taken at face value.
- If somebody like Trump’s words still get reported like they mean anything, Musk has a long way to go.
  If things stay normal, I would expect anything Tesla announces to get reproduced in the news in full with a little caveat somewhere that says musk is known for optimistic or aggressive timelines.

No thank you. I don't want a swasticar.
I'd love to have one of those new production old style beetles. But we can't buy them here because our govt sucks donkey dick.
- You mean this style of beetle?
  I'm not defending cybertruck just wanted to point out the awkward history of WV
  
  The massive, massive difference is that the VW Beetle wasn't a shitbox for rich people. It's okay to say that once in a great while. the Nazis, despite being horrific in most ways, did have an idea that wasn't bad and this was that. The VW Beetle was an affordable car and if something went wrong with it, you could probably fix it yourself with only a small amount of automotive knowledge. You really don't even need to give Hitler credit for that considering he basically just told Ferdinand Porsche to do all the hard work.
  Not so much the Cybertruck. It was Elon's baby from the beginning and he took a very close personal interest in it.
  The Cybertruck is a bad idea. Even for rich people. It's been demonstrated over and over again.
  
  VOLKSwagen!
  
  I know exactly what I said.
- Swasticar is good! In my mind, I was calling it TeSSla.
  
  @angrystego @RangerJosey pretty sure we agreed on WankerPanzer
- VW cars are built by Uyghurs, which, last I checked, are a surpassed minority in China, that has to work under slave-like conditions.
  But I guess most cars are produced like this.
  
  Nobody builds cars under slave like conditions. It’s just not possible. Modern car factories are highly automated plants that require skilled operators. In the case of the VW Xinjiang, that was QC inspectors. There’s no way a hole in the wall car factory using outdated labor practices can come close to competing against modern production.
  
  I'm talking about the ones made in Mexico.

The best thing they could do for their sales is get rid of all ties to Elon Musk.
- And get real professionals to design and build future models.
  
  Also have anyone who understands basic car design point out why shit like door opening buttons are a terrible idea in emergencies. Or why requiring the doors to lock during a software update is stupid. Or why putting electronics not designed for extreme heat is terrible. Or that trying to use cameras in bad weather isn't any better than human eyes....
  
  Just ordinary professionals will do nicely.
  
  Or even better, get Olivier Boulet (of Mitsubishi infamy) to do their future designs so we can put the company out of its misery.
- I definitely would've considered Tesla as my first EV but as of now they're dead to me. If he was completely gone then that actually becomes a selling point for me.
- Instead they did the opposite and gave him the biggest bonus in world history.
- While true this still won’t make the Cyberdrumpf meet EU regulations. You can’t make it street legal here.
- They’ve gone a long way on flash and sex appeal but I think a little straightforward practical value would help them a lot. The market is awash in good competition now so their novelty effect is gone. And the sex appeal has ended for everyone except for 40k cyberdouches.
- As the article title states, unlike Elon Musk, Tesla pulls out.

Is this the one they let musk design? Feels like a Simpsons episode...
- Personally, I'm holding out for the Tesla minivan.
  
  Wow, it's beautiful and so futuristic! It's almost like living in the future today. I bet Tesla could sell twice as many as the Cybertrucks of those. Provided he makes it bulletproof of course. The great weakness and the reason for the disappointing sales of the Cybertruck is that the glass isn't bulletproof, I simply can't think of any other reason.
- I guess if Hitler was allowed to design a car, Musk didn't want to be left behind.
  
  To be fair to Hitler, his cars weren't trash
- At least that one had big cup holders.
- That one ruined Danny Devito. Maybe we'll be lucky enough this ruins Musk?

The Swasticar!

Bit like Elon, Never lived up to the hype

Well if they'd stop putting signage with "Arbeit Macht Frei" over the entrance to their factories maybe they'd do better.

Even if you ignore the politics it's just a terrible car that is way too expensive. I'm honestly surprised it sold any units at all but I guess people just like vanity toys.
- It's hard to find insurance for it, it's objectively terrible at its job, that's very few mechanics that can service it, It isn't available in Europe, it has terrible quality control issues, It is made by a company with terrible customer service, and it is made by Nazi
  So many reasons not to buy it.
  
  Made by under-paid awesome people that got themselves stuck working for an idiotic wannabe pseudo-Nazi.
- Tesla fan here, this is kind of accurate. I wouldn't call it terrible, but the aluminum chassis means it has towing limitations, the small battery doesn't have nearly as much range as most other Tesla's and it gets worse if you're towing, plus not everybody wants to drive the Halo truck. Double the range or cut the price by 30% and you have an interesting car, as it is now I look at it as a first generation attempt.
  
  You've got some balls coming in here & proclaiming You're a fan of Nazi billshit.
  
  The car is objectively terrible. It's ha heavy duty car that can't do heavy duty things. The cybertruck has two things that it does well. It goes fast when you hit the accelerator and the sound system is really good. Everything else is extremely shitty, and a complete lie

Tesla just needs a new slogan or a good marketing campaign.
Something like:
Tesla - power by joy
Or "Kraft durch Freude" in German.
All that would perfectly fit the brand image.
- For reference.
- Or make a special edition. The Kristall Nacht with a red and black wrap or something.
  
  Could even decorate it with a pattern based on an asian symbol commonly found on temples!
- I'm pretty sure that the new employee orientation has a banner that says something about work setting me free.
- Kraft durch Freude
  Nice, how about "Cars enabling Freedom" or "Autos machen frei"?

Have they tried pulling out the "Make a vehicle that's not a massive and shitty death trap," or "Boot the Nazi from the company" stops? Because, I suspect doing those two might help it out.
- The myth of Elon is still going strong. Now he's taking over government agencies. Not that it's the right move, but keeping him on might keep the stock at the insanely overvalued level it's at. That's all that matters.
- Elon is all this company has, just like Trump is literally the only thing going on in the Republican Party. The republicans are going all the way with Trump, straight down the drain, and Tesla will do the same with Musk.

I wish journalist would stop calling this PS 1 Pontiac Aztek "futuristic"; it just highlights how shitty our future is going to be.
- I mean it would fit well in Robocop or The Running man so I guess it counts
  
  I'm thinking more omikron the nomad soul lmao.
  
  Both shitty visions of the future. Well the movie for Running Man took place 6-8 years ago, and the book takes place this year which could count as "future" since we're only in February.
  
  It would certainly fit this version of Robocop.
  
  That's retro-futuristic, a very different thing.
- Ironically, the Aztek is way better, despite its age...

Has Elon Musk tried not being a fascist plutocrat?

Good News: Now the nazi who owns the company can, via his role in the nazi government which he bought, can bail himself out.
🙃
(fuck this timeline)
- Elon doesn't own Tesla.. Where did you get that from? He has 19% of their shares and is the CEO, nothing more.

Who would've thought that a very expensive truck in an ev market that is lukewarm at best, add in a good amount of weird looks and unreliability, wouldn't be a big seller? I could pick a conventional truck for a fraction of the price or this. People who bought it were doing it for show and now that market is tapped out.

i wonder when ol stinky starts pushing somekind of law that makes it mandatory to buy one
- More likely to make the government buy them all.
  
  Or forces it on the military.
  
  basically same thing though, just even more infuriating
  
  DOGE

I'm still waiting for them to finish loading in.

Tesla made 2.8 billion last year from selling regulatory credits. So they really didn't have to care how many cars they sold. But those surely are going away, so they are going to have to do some other government handout, which Elon is probably hand picking right now.

Probably would have helped if it didn't look cobbled together out of sheet metal for a low-budget post-apocalypse movie. I picture Humungus standing up in it chasing Mel Gibson.

I can't buy one, they are not available in NZ yet. Despite what anyone else says, I like the look, it looks like the bastard child of a delorian and a countach, but in a good way.
I wouldn't buy one despite the fact that I like it. It is far too big for NZ roads, I may have overlooked that. But I can't overlook the fact that Elon has, for me at least, destroyed any good will that was built up. Tesla and all the people who work there have been tarred with the Nazi brush that Elon is wielding.
The only way that Tesla could claw back any respect from me (and hopefully the rest of the world) would be to oust Elon, and all his family from any decision making in the company. It will not happen so my respect for them is gone!
- Will they ever be available? Completely illegal in the UK as it'd never pass the safety tests. After all, that front hitting someone would be insta-death.
  
  I'm not sure.
  They don't seem much more dangerous than the new breed of massive flat nosed ute's that I see around.
  If a pedestrian gets hit at any kind of speed by an ute, they are fucked.

I saw my first cybertruck in traffic yesterday, I initially thought that some redneck had every part you need to make a car except for the frame and body, and was like "I don't need none of that fancy shit, I got square tube and steel plate!" and welded together the laziest design they could think of. Then I realized it was just a cybertruck, and promptly laughed at it.
- If it was part of a trend of Redneck shit mobiles itd be respectable but stupid, the fact that they are built out of a factory and not Bubba'd out of scrap metal and random parts in a garage makes them thoroughly stupid and infinitely trashy.
- I describe it as looking like it was made out of plywood
  
  It looks like my Pinewood Derby car that I made in Cub Scouts!
  
  Seriously! They look terrible and the resale value is going to sink people. I wouldn't buy that thing if it was a dollar fifty.
- Its awfully close to a dumpster on wheels. Just needs some flames coming out of it and a bigger 'tesla' logo and it'll be perfect.

A couple weeks ago I drove past a Tesla dealership in Northern California. They must have had a dozen of these dumpsters lined up out front.

Maybe they should include free Nazi salute lessons with each purchase and a bottle of Kentucky bourbon to get all the backwater inbred hicks on board to help spur sales of the swastitruck?
- hey don't you disparage bourbon like that. bourbon isn't a fascist :c I hope

Have they tried making a decent truck?
- The main reason I bought a truck was to tow heavy shit, and this piece of fuck trash Cyber truck can't even do that without the battery failing after less than 100 miles. Meanwhile an F150 can tow six times it's own weight thousands of miles.
  
  I'm surprised you mentioned the battery (which is a problem with any EV towing), and not the fact the hitch can just snap off if you hit a pothole hard enough.
  
  The one person I know who owns a cyber truck was upset when I didn't call him when I had a truck needing emergency, my wife's car had broken down on a freeway offramp. The people that own these stupid things are cos playing as truck people even moreso than the average truck owner. The weirder part of his upsetness is, I was already driving a 3/4 ton truck because my commuter vehicle was not running. All I had to do was go get a uhaul trailer and go get her car. My mind is still boggled that he threw a fit about not calling him.
  
  Well that would make you in the 10% of people actually using their truck
  
  Tbf it’s kinda a fundamental limitation of electric vehicles vs gas that the energy density of gas is way higher.
- Value is harder to deliver than hype.

I just had a talk with a friend of mine in southern Ontario who lives in a farming rural area. He likes cars and often does searches for used vehicles in his area. In a 200km area around Brantford, there are over 200 used Teslas on sale down there over the past month or two because people are dumping them because they don't like the brand.
- The well moneyed sort who buy Teslas also like to change cars more often than the rest of us. Some of them are going to even more expensive brands like Rivian, and there’s a huge array of less expensive, more practical options.
  Here’s how I personally see the brand transformation. I don’t believe these people are so principled that they are dumping these cars in protest. It’s more that the appeal that used to be there: of being part of the future, of moving off gas and embracing clean tech to help save the world… that little halo just isn’t part of the brand anymore. I see Teslas all the time where I live with license plates like “BYE CO2” and “LOL GAS.” But no one is going to hop on board that Tesla hype train any longer. They are no longer novel, they no longer virtue-signal and yes have actually become a bit icky. But I think we’re just seeing the end of the mirage, not really any kind affirmative lashback.