What are the bad patterns of Reddit to never repeat on Lemmy?
A few examples include s*x questions on askreddit, "this" comments, nolife powermods, jokes being more frequent than actual answers
Needlessly censoring words like sex. It wasn’t necessary on Reddit and it certainly isn’t necessary now.
Censorship like that was introduced to make the platform appealing to advertisers. I'd say just don't give power over how to run the platform to advertisers.
I find it absolutely mind blowing that people are generally accepting that as okay on most social media platforms.
I can only assume that people don’t understand why it was brought in on YouTube and TikTok in the first place because so many people do it when it isn’t remotely necessary. If you make your living posting on social media, then fair enough, I understand you need to fall inline with the rules of the platform. But why the hell would you self censor posts you don’t make money from? Utterly ridiculous.
I agree. It's absolutely absurd that would say something along the lines of "Fuck, I got r*ped, what do I do?"
I'm of the opinion that you shouldn't censor any words. If you feel the need to censor it, then just don't say it. If you want to discuss it, then be able to say it. You should be able to say something like "X called Y a nigger".
I'd say people worrying about Karma.
karma (or upvotes-downvotes aka simple karma) shouldn't be a reason to disallow someone from using a lemmy community
I don't know what form of karma Wander meant, but for me the "global karma" numbers are the worst part of reddit. People constantly posting stupid things or self-censoring to try to make number go up.
Requiring minimum positive karma is stupid when it can be gamed so easily.
Someone with very negative karma is likely a troll.
upvoted to give you more karma
What exactly was the karma problem? I never saw it being a huge issue
It becomes an issue if you imagine people on social media do what they do for karma in the same way people in real life do what they do for money.
In other words, if you have a deficient or extremely narrow theory of mind, you will think karna is the cause of everything
Is there even a total karma counter anywhere at all?
Not on Lemmy but there is on kbin (it's called "reputation", I think). I'm hoping it doesn't get implemented here, but I guess we can see if it negatively affects kbin content as we've got a direct comparison.
Making all these posts on Lemmy be about another site.
The community won't flourish if the only thing people are talking about is their social-media ex.
I think we need to give it some time. I was not there when Digg went bad but I'm assuming that in the early days of Reddit, there was a lot of discussion about Digg. Once Reddit reached a critical mass, posts about Digg died down.
To make the ex metaphor. Talking shit about your ex is not productive but talking about what was wrong or didn't work can be very insightful. Entirely blocking your ex out of your mind is a pretty easy way to make the same mistakes again.
I can see why people think it's annoying but I think this is also a good thing. Talking about this helps people understand what they want to see in their communities or instances.
Pushing the metaphor even further, all my stuff isn't even moved out of the ex's house yet, so I'll probably want to keep talking about them until the situation is over. It's just going to take a little time.
It's the currently trending topic due for pretty much everyone here. It will die down by itself eventually as it becomes old news by then.
Obtuse comment, a vast majority of people have no self-awareness. Its good to discuss things.
That is why I posted. To bring awareness that it is happening, and self awareness, and suggest that things can be done another way.
I mean, a good chunk of the content on reddit came from Twitter or Facebook or 4chan, if not one of the many other sites that also scrape from those places. And after the Digg exodus, there was a lot of discussion about that too.
This is normal. This is just growing pains.
It took years for Reddit to stop bitching about Digg all the time. Hopefully, we will get over this phase quicker than that.
For the moment, I personally find this feedback valuable. We are starting something new, and a part of figuring out what we want to look like is acknowledging what we don't want to look like.
This
Edit: Seems like people don't joke about this stuff here. Lesson learned.
There are; but this isn't even close to the right context where it even remotely works. Maybe if you did it on a comment saying "people who just reply 'this.'"
Censoring inoffensive words like sex.
Yes, thank you. Excessive prudishness and self censoring is always an indicator to me that a community is going a weird direction.
In the last year I started noticing on Reddit people typing the 'letter'-word and half the time I wouldn't know what word they are referring to.
On a couple occasions I would reply asking what word they meant and they would reply that I should know, with my comment downvoted.
That reminds me of another thing I was sick of seeing, people asking a question and getting told to google it or that lmgtfy link. You would later see people in the comments mentioning that Google took them there when Googling for it.
I've been amazed at how much "profanity" I've seen on Lemmy "all" page already... 6 hours in
Allowing racists and fascists a seat at the table under the guise of 'fairness' or 'free speech'. Reddit became polluted with far-right astroturfing in the last six years.
It is not tolerance to welcome those persons who seek to harm you.
We cannot tolerate intolerance.
Reddit was full of racists even back in the early 2010s. /r/Coontown was a prime example of that.
Whether or not it's tolerance isn't directly important.
The mistake that people make is assuming that tolerance is inherently good. It is to a certain degree, but there are many things that you do not want to tolerate. That's where we want to be.
However, many people think of themselves as tolerant and find it difficult to make that conceptual realization.
In the last 6 years? If anything, reddit got less tolerant of the far right since inception, it just became a bigger deal when they banned them in the last 6 years
You believe what you want to. Nothing I say is going to convince you, random internet person.
I had used reddit since the near beginning, and over time the prevalence of 'alternative facts' and other right-wing narratives has risen sharply. You also have communities like r/conservative that participate in open calls to violence and perpetuate right wing dogwhistles for maximum rage bait. The sheer slide of r/politicalcompassmemes going from people role-playing different ideologies to thinly-veiled alt-right propaganda speaks to this shift.
Catering to conservatives and right wing players results in the enshittification of the website.
Well yeah, to continue with the fire metaphor, it's hard to put out a fire once you've already let it get out of hand. PLENTY of people were warning about those communities before they grew into the mob that stormed the capital, for example. Reddit only stepped in and did something about them when it became a bad look for them to let them keep shitting on the lawn.
Everyone should familiarize themselves with the paradox of tolerance if they haven't already.
I’ll counter and say that calling anyone you disagree with a racist/fascist in order to feel superior.
That shit was rampant on Reddit and seems to be slowly creeping into Lemmy as well.
Lol never mind, I guess it’s rampant here as well.
Mmm, this might be a you problem.
Reddit became too America focused. Most of the posts were about America or assumed everyone reading was American. It felt very exclusionary.
Well I think ideally that's what different instances should help. I'm on a Canadian instance with a lot of Canadian specific communities. I've seen instances of many other specific countries. That should theoretically counter that whole experience on Reddit
Lemmy.ca is full of em!
I think this will remain a problem on any platform that includes enough Americans. The general public in America just seems unaware of anything outside America.
I think this stems from their education system, what they (don't) broadcast on mass-media and how normal and even laudable they consider fanatical nationalism to be (did you know they require children to swear devotion to the nation state every day at school!?).
In any case, I don't think this is a problem that any platform that wants to include Americans can avoid.
(did you know they require children to swear devotion to the nation state every day at school!?).
Untrue. Happens in some areas, but far from universal. However, it is weird (self-loathing american reporting).
That's just a demographics game. Most reddit users live in the US.
Depends how you define user. If I am googling for answers to a problem and find it on Reddit, am I a user?
It's also a company that's based on the US.
I saw this complaint on reddit a lot, but at the end of the day, it was a US based site. Of course there will be mostly Americans and they will default to that understanding.
Also, the US is a large country. It's not like Europe where you're a day trip away from 5 other countries. Most Americans can't afford travel outside the US, so they only have exposure to the many cultures within the US.
The hate Americans get for not catering discussion on a US based site to the global community is really what's strange.
Most Americans can’t afford travel outside the US, so they only have exposure to the many cultures within the US.
You can travel in a straight line over land 2700 miles from Washington to Florida without leaving the United States. Make a foray into Canada and you can travel a 4300 mile long straight line from Alaska to Florida without leaving a country that speaks majority English.
I appreciate that. What bugs me is when people don't read the name of the sub they're in though - if it's askUK or casualuk then maybe it's not the place to talk about America, particularly when it's an advice thread about laws for example.
Just some self awareness would be good.
And the arrogance about it was unbelievable, it was extremely common behaviour.
Christ, yes. Every other comment or post was something that assumed everyone was in the USA, or that they were the greatest most perfect wonderful nation and all others are basically hell on earth.
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Literally full of shit lmao. Who on reddit mainstream is talking about how the US is the greatest place on Earth.
Usually its the entire other way around where Reddit is acting like the apocalypse is about to start at any point.
Here's a new one for this thread. "People who complain about Americans over the dumbest things". It's straight up like you have a chip on your shoulder.
But that were some good opportunities to dunk on the world epicenter, i've always took them
Not just frequent jokes, but those annoying ever-repeating jokes. Like as if 80% of users were the same person. Before opening any post on Reddit, there is a good chance to be able to correctly predict the exact content of a significant portion of the comments. I get that it can be funny to an individual to come across stuff like "I also choose this guys wife" or "And my axe" more than once. But for people like me, who did not just start using the website, it is really annoying to come across the same jokes literally hundreds of times.
This goes hand in hand with the general idea of a "Reddit hivemind". Depending on the subs you visit, you can see that Reddits userbase is actually really diverse. There are people from every demographic with all kinds of different life experiences. But in a lot of subs, anytime a woman is mentioned there is a flood of people acting like as if there are no women on the internet and as if no person using Reddit could have a girlfriend. Again, I get that it can be funny once or twice. But when the idea that every user must be a typical "Redditor" gets repeated all the time it's just annoying. Needless to say that I don't look forward to being called a "Lemming" on this site.
Also, repeating comments on the same post. Obviously you don't have to read all the comments if there are already hundreds of them. But if there are too many comments saying the exact same thing it just gets harder to read them all. So it would be nice if people would look whether the point they want to make maybe has been made already. They can increase that comment's visibility by upvoting. No need to make other people read the same content multiple times and by that make it harder to read different comments.
Kept scrolling to find this one. It was so tiresome to see the same joke repeated in multiple threads a day.
And I really love humor, but I'll also add that everyone upvoting the joke or pun responses until they're all at the top, and having to scroll to find the real content, was pretty annoying too.
And people immediately repeat the same patterns without understanding where they come from.
First, the difference is negligible between doing something ironically and just doing it. The "ironic" part stays with it, but becomes irrelevant almost immediately. The "/s" needs to exist for a similar reason. Generally it's just better to not make the /s comment at all, but if you're going to it should have the /s.
Second, if you have a couple hundred people read something and think the same response, one of them is probably going to type it.
Changing these things requires a culture shift where we encourage people to think about their comment adding something original rather than the first thing that comes to mind. You have to attack that root problem instead of the symptoms. Is it worth the effort?
First, the difference is negligible between doing something ironically and just doing it.
You get to feel superior to people who don’t get it and think you’re being unironic. That’s really it.
Also, repeating comments on the same post. Obviously you don’t have to read all the comments if there are already hundreds of them. But if there are too many comments saying the exact same thing it just gets harder to read them all. So it would be nice if people would look whether the point they want to make maybe has been made already. They can increase that comment’s visibility by upvoting. No need to make other people read the same content multiple times and by that make it harder to read different comments.
This may be a little bit of an issue here as small instances (or frequently defederated instances) may not be aware of replies made on older comments. To see the whole reply chain of a comment you need to click the fediverse button (the rainbow star thingy on Lemmy web) and read the source. If people don't do that they may legitimately not know that someone has replied with the exact thing they were about to reply with.
If you can't even get yourself to write the word sex, the questions on askreddit were probably not the issue..
I think the whole "no life mods" thing got a bit overblown. Reddit communities flourished generally due to the ones that had good active moderation. Setting a consistent theme and tone for the subreddit and keeping the bad actors out. It takes a lot of work, they did it for free and we benefited.
The issue is when some people are mods for tons of major communities. That's when it is overreaching.
Ending community names with "porn", so earthporn, designporn always kinda bugged me for some reason. I like porn. I like beautiful non-porn pictures of nature and awesome design too. I just don't know why we need to conflate them or use the term 'porn' as shorthand.
I always expected someone to coin the term pornporn to describe the excess of pornographic images. Alas, it was not to be.
...yet.
Because it's cheeky shorthand that conveys a certain aesthetic fixation with whatever the subject matter is. It's certainly more interesting than just appending "pics" to everything. I'm open to alternatives, but language changes, and I've already gotten so used to it I don't even think of actual pornography first when I hear the term.
Guys I think the censored word is"sex".
Thank God. I was worried this wouldn't be the place to ask saxophone related questions.
I wonder how much of that are Reddit-specific problems vs just plain old humans online in a pseudo-anonymous setting problem.
I've been on a few pseudonymous forums before Reddit, and Reddit really does have a bunch of unique problems that didn't happen in forums dedicated towards particular topics
Ragebait. It's boring and pointless, and it brings out the worst in everyone. I never understood the appeal of being a "troll" though, so idk.
Something else I don't miss, and maybe this is a little more personal, but often when I would try to participate in a conversation, my comment would get auto-removed for some rule/etiquette based reason I could never really wrap my head around. Like, derailing? I thought I knew what that meant, but had comments removed when I was like, "yeah that answer really resonates with me too! My 123 is xyz."
Lemmy so far has been much more welcoming to the neurodiverse and I appreciate the organic, freeflowing nature of conversation here.
Obviously, if someone's being provocatively hateful / an obvious troll, then nuke 'em.
But if people are just trying to join in on the conversation, don't be a pedantic dick about exactly what kind of conversation is allowed. It had gotten to the point where I was afraid to comment at all for fear I'd be doing it wrong.
I think being a troll should go like this, and I'll use the wiae Tom Scott's words here because he summed it up pretty well
"it turns out that while mocking the government is a reasonably good gag, mocking the government and then having the government not find it funny, that is a really good gag."
The moral here, don't just troll random people with lives to life. Troll the government and arsehole corporations.
The second release of Morbius was the kind of trolling I love to see.
Calling communities "master race" as in /r/pcmasterrace
Lol everyone should go read the couple of posts on the community / magazine with the same name. Hilarious seeing people so triggered by people pointing out that the name is a bit problematic.
"Pcmasterrace" did not start with Reddit.
Yeah, that's, uh, kinda problematic, eh?
Not consulting the user base before making sweeping changes. The users are your life blood, be nice to them.
I am not sure anyone would care tho, for example see Threads! That's just twitter Why not move to Mastodon? Why be a Corporate Sucker? But people do it. I still see a lot of people active on reddit, The change is simple and efficient yet... The yieldings low...
I feel like Threads is a special case. If you're using FB or Insta you're going to use other Meta services. If you got yourself off FB then its easier to not want to get back in bed with Meta. When people jumped ship from twitter we saw a huge percentage come over to Mastodon. There was no Bird company services that they were being pulled back to so the move to Mastodon was easier.
Agreed. At least a consultative approach, being validated and heard can go a long way in fostering compromise ime.
Outrage bait. Too much of reddit was stories and videos of people acting badly.
I'm a linux developer of 25+ years and I'm permanently banned from /r/linux because I dared criticize systemd.
My answer is therefore: Power-tripping mods. Where mods are required, ensure the community has the ability to oust them.
Shitting on someone just for not liking systemd is really stupid. FOSS thrives on diversity, and having alternatives to systemd's parts will always be a plus. I'm okay with systemd myself, but it's easy to understand why some might not like it.
The Linux community tends to have some ego which think they have figured it all out, elitism is a problem which needs to be addressed more often in my opinion.
There was a mod drama over there at Linux too. After a while, the power tripping mod was kicked out and a lot of the banned accounts were restored (including one of mine). Things were okay until spez.
If you don't mind me asking, what is bad about systemd is there a post anywhere?
Yeah, I was having a whinge about it here the other day. Just a sec while I dig up the corpse...
Systemd* removes choice*, and it was designed to do so. That is why there is so much anger. It is bad software design, by design. It flies in the face of the core linux principles, all in the name of homogenising the linux ecosystem, and you know exactly which big corporations benefit from that.
The simple fact is: today, if I want to run a mainstream distro without Systemd, I cannot. Its cancerous tentacles run so deep that decoupling it from a mainstream distro, and keeping it decoupled, is a full time job.
Instead I have no choice but to run a smaller, less featured, less secure and less funded alternative. Good luck getting Gnome to work without systemd.
Full credit to Devuan, MxLinux, Artix, and the other united underdogs.
Fuck you Redhat/IBM and your proxy evil-doer Lennart.
But if you want to read more about how why others hate systemd, there's no shortage of material:
https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd
https://without-systemd.org/wiki/index_php/Main_Page.html
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21616608
A ban transparency list, kinda like a certificate transparency list, would be great but the big issue is that you can't keep publicly hosting prohibited content...
I'm waiting for that to get implemented in Lemmy, but I feel like that is going to take a while unless volunteers get it working.
Circlejerks / echo chambers. Do it for the discussion, not the points.
I don't get the issue with sex questions. If people enjoy reading them and answering them why should anyone stop them. If you don't like them, don't click the thread.
I might be in the minority, but shitpost memes like "I'll draw a shitty picture every day until x happens" or "I'll do this based on Y upvotes", and the "here's a random hotdog/Gatorade bottle everyday". I know I can probably just block these kinds of posts, I just never got the appeal of it.
Some projects can be kind of interesting, most aren't though, and I can agree with the sentiment
Dedication. In a world where not doing things is vastly easier than doing things, the fact that they would do anything is frankly, a marvel.
I hope to see less song lyric comment chains on completely unrelated posts. Also I don't know why, but I always hated the whole, 'my partner, let's call them blank (not real name)' thing.
The thing about comment chains is you can collapse them so don't see anything wrong. Let people have their fun and sense of connection with strangers on the internet.
True you can, it's a very small issue. The problem is they were always at or near the top. One chain isn't that bad, but seeing it over and over again on interesting posts gets old fast.
I'm guessing we'll see less song lyric stuff due to the lack of karma. Those threads were basically only good for harvesting free upvotes.
Karma farming bots reposting original user content as their own.
Long, predictable comment chains that get repeated over and over e.g. song lyrics
I've always been under the opinion that pun threads are awful. I love a good pun, but they shouldn't go past the 2 reply 99% of the time. It's rare the 3rd reply has anything funny to say, and past that it's usually just stupid af.
every damn sub got invaded by Anarchy Chess. And I'm complaining even though I like Anarchy Chess (although it got to a point where the replies just lost any actual resemblance of humour for me, and were just random comments, like "actual zombie").
Like with jokes, I don't so much mind the existence of such threads so much as the fact that they are short and easy to both create and digest, which means they get upvoted more quickly and rise to the top.
New users need to know this and stop upvoting low effort comments by default. I don't know if there's any way to enforce this, so it's a cultural thing that only peer pressure from other users can affect.
I have to say, I loved when you would see some great drawn out thread, with each comment being an ad lib of some song, I always thought those were a lot of fun
Trying to get people to use downvotes "properly" is a losing battle. Regardless of its original purpose it is, and always has been, a dislike button.
give a thumbs down/disapproval button, but also this original-spirit-of-downvoting thing.
I disagree with that. It's human nature downvote something you disagree with when given an option.
It's best to just acknowledge it and accept it to some degree while still encouraging users to upvote well written disagreements.
But don't pretend that it shouldn't also be used as a disagree button frequently. The two way voting system is a large contributor to what made reddit great. It has some drawbacks, but don't expect that to change. It's like asking lead to not be dense.
I always liked stackoverflows approach where down voting something would cost 2 of your own points. Of course, points on stack overflow are more 'valuable' as they unlock additional rights on the site like editing others posts without review etc.
I always liked stackoverflows approach where down voting something would cost 2 of your own points. Of course, points on stack overflow are more 'valuable' as they unlock additional rights on the site like editing others posts without review etc.
The alternative realities allowed to exist in conservative or republican groups/communities.
I severely wish for this to not happen here. But I’m not naive, conservatives always follow and then start to destruct what others have created.
I think it's far more likely that there will be more of this. Lemmy instances already exist for various extreme political views. They might not be federated with the instance you're using, but they definitely exist.
The nature of the fediverse, with no centralized control or oversight, will produce more such communities, not less.
Honestly, as long as they stay insulated from the rest of the fediverse, it’s not really any different than them spinning up a forum somewhere. It’s going to be a challenge for them to reach new people to warp to their worldview if they are largely kept away from everyone else.
And sure they might lurk in alt accounts to try their recruitment that way in the rest of the fediverse, but I feel like if it won’t be a default to be exposed to the rhetoric (like Reddit) all the time on most servers, since the vast majority aren’t going to want to connect to them, it will come across to potential recruits as exactly how extreme it actually is.
Pretty much. And they spilled over into everywhere else too.. In Australia, absolutely nobody cares about guns. However, on Reddit, you'd think the opposite. It was fairly clear that the conference crowd were trolling the Australian subs excessively
Edit: Well, thanks for the gold kind stranger!
I saw a guy once write "Edit: Thanks for the gold asshole".
Made my day.
Growth for growths sake.
Not just at a platform level but at a community level too. Around 6 or 7 years ago I started to really notice people talking about growing their subreddits, making changes and tools designed to increase the subscriber count.
For what? There's nothing to gain.
The main subreddit I modded finally became impossible to moderate for quality when, despite our lack of "growth strategy", the influx of new users became too much for the communitys culture to persist and it slowly turned into a lowest-common-denominator topic-flavoured meme ghetto. And from the outside I saw many of my favourite subreddits fall to the same scenario.
So I would say, we should avoid or rethink the idea of growing lemmy for its own sake. Eternal September will come eventually, lets not rush it
There is a size where niches are catered but the big flood of trash users aren't on the platform. I feel like there was a time Reddit was there, it looks not to shabby on Feddit now.
Got in a few arguments about this on Reddit. Some cool niche sub where the amount of possible posts was naturally limited, but you knew each time there was a new post, it would be a good one. But then the occasional meme or "sub name taken literally" post would find it's way in, got upvoted by people just scrolling through r/all and the mods would keep it b/c "people upvoted it".
Don't assume anyone replying to you disagrees. They can be on your side even if there are minor differences between what you said and what they said. If they repeated the exact same thought, there wouldn't be a point to replying at all.
I disagree
Clever and hilarious unique thought
Mostly when I see this, it's more an issue of the person getting angry at a reply didn't actually read or comprehend the reply.
So many times I have seen someone basically repeat the exact same thoughts as a previous post, but used different words to express it and the person they reply to starts attacking them. Like, dude. Did you even read?
A few examples include s*x questions on askreddit, “this” comments, nolife powermods, jokes being more frequent than actual answers
All of these seem like inevitable consequences of human nature on this sort of platform.
I didn't mind the jokes. What I minded was people upvoting the more than the useful responses so you had to scroll to find them. Don't upvote low effort jokes, people.
Needlessly aggressive internet arguments and flame wars for no reason
I've already run into multiple people on Lemmy who do what I call the Reddit Special:
For example a conversation I have actually had more than once on Reddit:
Person 1 - "I hate the designated hitter in baseball, it was more fun before, without it"
Person 2 - "Why are you in love with the old days so much? Do you want segregation back too?"
Person 1 - "Are you crazy? I just like it when pitchers bat"
Person 2 - "Lol. Clearly you have issues with being called out on your bigotry"
Person 1 - "You're not listening, I said I like baseball better when pitchers bat"
Persot 2 - "lmaoooo I don't listen to racists"
That goes way back to BBS. reddit couldn't solve that problem and I doubt lemmy can either.
How about we have a mechanism to reward people who contribute constructively to a conversation by giving readers the ability to mark them as positive or negative? You could then provide an overall score - let's call it "karma" - to show whether they're good or bad members of the community.
Oh, wait. Yeah, that really didn't end up working like that...
This is 100% old-man energy, but I dipped back over to reddit after a week or so and man did I forget how many completely random acronyms get thrown around there... FW, TIL, ELI5, FWIW, IANAL...
Don't even get me started on ETA, which should mean "estimated time of arrival", but has instead been used to mean "edit to add", even though just putting EDIT means the same thing??
I see that kind of stuff a lot less here, and I'm assuming it's a mix of older audience and smaller user base, but so far it's been so much nicer actually understanding what everyone is saying here.
Wait, that's what ETA meant over there?
I feel like such a boomer now, and I'm not even that old...
The Internet's always had a lot of acronyms, though. Hell, pretty much anything with a technical bent to it does. I'm currently learning ham radio and there are a large variety of three letter "Q codes" used to indicate anything from "your gain is too high" to "switch frequencies". Yeah, Reddit's going to grow its own acronyms, and that's okay.
I always wondered if they changed it so that the plural isn't pms.
Honestly, it's like Kleenex versus tissue paper. Maybe one is more on brand, but everyone knows exactly what you mean either way.
My intuition tells me that a direct message is a message directly to my username inbox, and a private message is basically the same thing but maybe encrypted or something.
I have a feeling this one comes from Instagram and that's how it entered the mainstream lexicon. But I find both PM and DM easy to understand.
Same for me. I always think to PM as private message and DM as dungeon master, and that's it.
I accepted the term DM as directed message because in fact there was no such thing as Private Message.
My favorite is "IAALBNYL" I AM A LAWYER, BUT NOT YOUR LAWYER lol
Older audience will beat you with LOL, ROTFLMAO, RTFM N00B and GTFO!
I have never heard of ETA meaning edit to add. I'm guessing FW means forward, I'm not sure if I've actually seen fwiw, and I think people just like IANAL because it has the word anal in it.
I agree with you on the til and eli5. I've seen these terms seeping out of Reddit as well.
One thing that made me honestly irrationally angry or somewhat disgusted is people saying happy cake day, and flopping their stupid emoji in there. My Reddit account was like 13 years old, and I never felt like I was missing anything there.
Believe it or not, the context in which I saw FW, the person meant "fuck with". It was a comment about a tattoo, and their response was "Honestly, I kinda fw it."
Asking questions that are asked all the time in a sub or are already answered in the wiki. Not doing even basic searching for information before asking.
The only benefit to asking questions multiple times is that newer, possibly better solutions are recommended. I searched Reddit often for my questions and some posts worded questions better than others and some posts had wayyy better answers than others. People don’t go search previously asked questions so they can answer them. So I agree with you because it gets annoying after a time, but there is a benefit to having repeated questions asked. It’s difficult finding a balance for it.
I agree the balance is difficult and I agree asking later sometimes yields different results. My for instance about a sub and corresponding question asked endlessly is the privacy guides sub where people ask something like: "I'm using brave or firefox browser how do I be more private?"
Like my man you are on a discussion sub for a website literally full of instructions and recommendations with a link to that site pinned to the top of the sub. My goodness it can barely slap you in the face any harder.
It's not as bad as it was but the question is so vague that it almost demands follow up questions like what country, what threat model and what OS? It's not as bad anymore but it got super old and its the questions that are too general to be helpful and repeated hundreds of times over that really depressed me to read.
Found the stackoverflow mod
Yeah I feel that disallowing re asking questions will lead to less discourse and fewer perspectives.
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I really hope all the admins are able to keep repost bots down.
I doubt there will be much admins can do. A good repost bot can easily pose as a real person thanks to LLMs. Not to mention reddit had some of the best spam filters on the web and they couldn't stop it. Once lemmy becomes more popular, the bots will come.
I think reddit supported the repost bots as it drove up engagement and prevented people's feeds from getting 'stale.' They even admitted that in the beginning they would use fake accounts to post things and make the site seem more active than it really was.
As mentioned, users did create bots to detect not only repost bots but comment reposting bots as well. Reddit honestly has zero incentive to eliminate either of these.
I mean "repost sleuth bot" caught repost bots constantly, and nothing was done.
Hopefully the smaller instance sizes will help, because it's not one 1admin per million users, but on small instances it's 1 per 1000. So someone suddenly posting a bunch gets caught real fast.
The only way to combat bots is with other bots - made by people who care about the problem. Program sniffers to detect repost bots and flag them, and other bots to ban them.
It will be a constant arms race to keep up with them, but it's either that or let them overrun everything.
It's also on the users to pay attention and when someone calls out a reporter to take it seriously, downvote and report them. The most annoying thing is the number of people who respond "who cares if it's a repost bot?" They don't understand that such bots left unchecked will consume everything, leaving nothing fresh behind, because that is their nature.
A few examples include s*x questions on askreddit
Says sex questions on askreddit were a problem
Doesn't even write the word sex
Yeah, I don't think the sex questions were the problem, mate.
This.
There's nothing more disappointing than clicking into a thread because it looks like it might be interesting or fun, and realising 90% of the comments are the same old, tired jokes, repeated ad infinitum.
Restrict the API to each server? (just joking!) Perhaps we can try being more polite and kind towards each other. I feel that this is the case so far. I fear the moment that "mainstream" users find out about Lemmy!
I think what I'm not seeing a lot of here is the 12 year old shitheads that just wanna troll everyone. Teenage angst, that's what you call it. I'm sure trolls exist on Lenny, but I haven't seen nearly as much of it
Pretty obvious but just plain being rude to one another. I felt like I was stepping on eggshells every time I posted on reddit, like whatever I said was going to be given the least charitable interpretation possible. Let's be kind and polite to each other here
Questions that are answered in the sidebar or wiki should be deleted like in the old forum days. The entire content of some Subreddits was literally the same question being asked over and over again without new input.
That's already happening here in AskLemmy. 90% of the posts are support questions, and there's a sticky and a sidebar rule specifically banning those.
I feel like some, especially smaller communities, prefer this kind of non-malicious spam to having no activity at all, to attract more users. This counts for Lemmy and for Reddit of course.
Sidebar? I'm on an app, no sidebar. (With the pinned message, 1st you see, having the exact same content)
I really miss baconreader. (A minute tad, lemmy with liftoff is so much better)
It's not so much a dark pattern, but an emergent property of the upvote system: usually the first commenters tended to have an advantage and late good comments actually would never get enough exposure to float to the top.
Karma farmers would just sit at "new", spam comments and get visibility for joke and outrage comments.
The solution may be to randomly order comments below a certain threshold and/or within an upvote range.
Or just don't have karma.
Karma still exists even when you don't see the number, because it is used to sort posts in some way (by number or upvote percentage). Upvotes are important information to the community in principle.
Cross community censorship: For example on Reddit you wrote a comment in subreddit A (maybe even a negative one for that topic!) and then subreddits B, C and D permanently ban your account. If someone starts with that crap again they should be shunned.
Oh and verified users only communities, that sucked too.
Now, you post a hot take it's your entire server that goes on the black list.
Fr. The crying about defederating this or that I see from all kinds of instances when browsing everything is already giving me a bad taste. If you don't like something, block it your own damn self. Jesus fuck. You can block communities. You can make your own personal instance just to black/white list instances themselves for now if you want to be that widespread with blocks. You can probably find a tool to mass block as a regular user and not need that. You could just browse by subscribed and never see anything you didn't add again. So many things you, an individual, can do to curate your own shit without affecting every other user on the instance.
9 times out of 10, the subs that banned me for posting in another sub, were subs I would never wish to participate in anyway because they were generally racist, homophobic shitholes.
The verified user bullshit, though, that can go to hell. They usually put their shit in that mode when it was generating real talk between two opposing view points, and would say it's for the betterment of that when all it did was turn the comments into an echo chamber that was often much more toxic than just allowing the "other side" in.
I was talking more about when you post a comment in a fringe sub (that popped out over a link or r/all) and just because you commented there you get banned from regular subs. Even if your comment was against racism/hate.
And the bans were always without warning and arbitrary. One day you're fine, next day a shitty main sub throws you a ban out of nowhere.
If a nutjob right wing post pops up on my feed I sometimes can't resist and go in there and start to discuss. Not like they can bring up any coherent arguments anyway.
It's important to be aware that any negative community tends to snowball to a ridiculous level. If you make an "I hate spinach" community, it pretty quickly becomes ridiculous and likely more serious than you intended.
Some negative communities can be important, but you have to actively combat this snowball tendency. And it's usually better to just avoid it altogether.
It doesn't even have to be negative.
Just look at /r/birdsarentreal. Shit was just a joke. Now there are people that 100% believe there is a government conspiracy using drones disguised as birds.
"Any community that gets it's rocks off pretending to be stupid, will eventually be joined by actually stupid people who think they are in good company."
When the mods are just regular users who created the community and made up the rules in the first place, you'll always have this being an issue. This isn't a platform issue. The issue existed since the dawn of time. It's a human issue. People suck.
This isn't a platform issue. The issue existed since the dawn of time. It's a human issue. People suck.
True, but humanity is not stuck there.
Power must not be concentrated too much on single persons. People need to share power.
There are ways to do it so much better than reddit did it. Read my second item: you need a way to review Mod's decisions, and it must be an easy and transparent way.
Think about courts in real life: above a court, there is a higher court, and they can review the lower court's decision.
If you're an adult you should know they people with power do what they want and then use the rules to justify it. That's why ruined are made vague in purpose. Si as not to constrain the powerful. For example in Reddit, every rule list have a catch all rule
Reddit started to feel extremely consumerist after the mid-2010s, which I always kind of assumed had to do with the general demographic of users largely being people having disposable income for the first time in their lives. It’s hard to describe exactly, but there was a general feeling of fandom around specific corporations that just felt weird to me. I’d like to see more distrust of corporations in general here.
Reddit also felt very Centrist to me, with discussion being this golden ideal. I have no time for discussions with people on the right pretending to argue in good faith and people eating that up.
Also, as someone who doesn’t know much about China or have much love for it, the Sinophobia in unrelated threads was weird, too.
So far most of these have stayed away from Lemmy, but I see some creeping up here and there. The communities here seem generally good at keeping them down, though.
Not having appropriate tools to detect and mod auto-generated or repetitive content submitted by companies trying to influence public opinion.
Upside-down text for comments/replies with even the vaguest connection to Australia. Also, the "everything in Australia will kill you" meme has been done to death...
I disagree. Memes are memes. No need to think further or get offended.
Think like this: Not everybody is 7/24h on this site, so for them it's new and funny.
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