2d ago

Even China bans tankies rule

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lol. lmao even.
- Wait… you didn’t check the box. Are you a robot?
  
  https://imgur.com/TbsMxg1.gif
  
  I'm not not a robot
- What site is this?
  
  https://www.comparitech.com/privacy-security-tools/blockedinchina/

The simplest answer is probably that the CCP has its own doctrine and ideals, so westerners larping as communists online may be espousing ideals that don't align with the party's official doctrine. Why let western trolls muddy the waters when you already have efficient distribution of the exact political discourses you desire?
- They had a problem a few years ago with student Marxist societies using their own readings of Marx to critique the Party’s leadership, which they of course came down on like a tonne of bricks. The CCP is about Marxism the way the Catholic Church is about the Bible: there’s only one valid interpretation, and it’s whatever the institution says it is at the time.
  
  My chinese colleague said the state translations of Marx’s writings read like poetry haha
  
  Are they not maoists? I don't really pay too much attention to what exactly they have going on as fascism in my own country is more important to my daily life.
- Makes sense, still pretty damn funny though lol
- I'm still trying to understand what tankies are. Are they simply people pretending to be communists?
  
  It originally referred to modern day communists who believed Stalin was right to send troops and tanks into Czechoslovakia in 1968 to crush the liberal government there that had recently arisen there. Hence the word “tankie” for someone who believes that it’s right to use tanks to destroy peaceful democratic governments in order to (re)install communism.
  
  Tankies is a pejorative for authoritarian communists. As to the sincerity and actual involvement in any actual activity, that is highly individual.
  
  If anyone tries to tell you Tianemen Square Massacre didn't happen.... They're a Tankie.
  If anyone tries to tell you that "The LGBT Agenda is a Western Attack on Third World Nations"... They're a Tankie.
  If they voted for Trump because "But Kamala's bad for Palestine.".... Tankie
  And if they voted for Trump because he's a terrible person who will destroy everything, they're not just a tankie, they're an Accelerationist.

🤔 Not sure this means anything, but
- Probably more the privacy stuff than political ideology.

Welp.
- the gays are allowed in china
  Welp. Welly welly welly then even.
  
  The super gays, the gays so gay sometimes they loop back into straight.
- hype

China pushes different propaganda within China than it does without China. Don't cross the streams.
- Makes sense, don't want Chinese people talking to Tankies... Otherwise Tankies might get a fucking clue.
  I don't know why they are dumb enough to think China is this amazing Paradise, but it obviously aint.
  
  you should see how many people in hexbear claim to be Chinese
- What's incredible is that the good dumb dumbs on the tankist triad don't fucking know that about their dearly beloved CCP
  
  You sure about that?

Hexbear is blocked in turkey
- What did they do
  
  They weren't Hungary.
  I'll see myself out.

Probably one of the few instances where I can’t say I blame them one bit.

Literally none of these sites are blocked in China. Source: commenting from China.
- My guess is it's specific to the domain but federation screws up a domain firewall (which I kind of hope is the case, that'd be a cool reason to use the Fediverse).
  That, or it's fake, except there is a fair number of people able to check that site and confirm and the site is usually correct in my experience.
  
  I am in China. I can connect to my world, ml, lemmygrad, dbzer0, and slrflr accounts fine. IDK about this website people are connecting to check.
- We need proof. A selfie with today's (local time, of course) paper and Xi should suffice.
  
  Shirt optional

I wonder how does this blocking happens. Is it automatic or manual? Why are they blocked?
- The Great Firewall of China. Basically all publicly available internet access in China must route through hardware owned by the Government. The government restricts what can and can't resolve.
  
  I know about that, I'm just asking about whether this is manual or automatic.

lemmy.ml is blocked in Iran as well: https://viewdns.info/iranfirewall/?siteurl=lemmy.ml
- Why exactly in Iran?
  
  Marxism doesn't play nice with theocracy
  
  If you asked why I checked against Iran, it was because that was the only other country that the website had checks for.

Well then lemmy.ml must be bad, since the CCP cannot fail, only be failed...

Cant you interact with lemmy.ml through lemmy.world?
- Unfortunately, but I doubt Lemmy is that big where the CCP has detailed working knowledge of how Lemmy works.
  But, it would break quite a few things that function by referencing the home instance URL, like crossposts or images

Yeah, this was a nice fnord when it was first discovered.
But given that the other two are not blocked it is probably for some mundane reason like that early on lemmy.ml was targeted with a lot of nazi spam.
- Hexbear is also blocked see @hydroptic@sopuli.xyz s reply
  Unsure why grad isn't, maybe just luck of the draw and has flown under the radar so far lol
  
  Ah, a while ago when I checked hexbear wasn't blocked yet. Well the Chinese probably don't like seeing shit on pig-balls everywhere 🫠
- Yes, must be the nazi spam. Bet that's it.
- You gotta keep an eye out for the fnords. Also an "I".

u r not a human apparently.

Same user with the .ml bashing post. And it is not even true.
- Ah yes, that one user that bashes that instance... Lol. This instance (.ml) is trash, and always has been. It's full of irrational extremists.
  
  i wish it wasn’t true bc i usually get along so well with em, but yeah just recently i’ve been seeing some whack opinions from .ml communities 😬

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