2w ago

BRB, need more cheese

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Gonna be honest, can't say I've ever seen a cheese commercial before
- Does velveeta count? Personally, I say no
  
  Velveeta: Bringing Washington style gridlock to your colon.
- Wasn't there a cheese commercial that got popular here on lemmy during the Olympics because it featured an athlete? Hmm, maybe I'm confusing something...
  
  That athlete was sponsored by a cheese company IIRC
- Here is one that is stuck in my brain:
  Don’t forget. Gouda

How do you expect to find out about more obscure cheeses if they are not advertised in some way? You'd never stumble across Stinking Bishop or Epoisses de Bourgogne or Pule.
- Wow, what's that moldy in the corner?
  It's not even cheese, sir, we didn't clean the stall good enough
  Can I still have 500g, please?
  
  Bob's Cheese Emporium in the front .... Larry's Mushroom shop in the back
- If it’s available in my grocery, I’ll stumble across it.
  If it’s not available at my grocery, what is the point of me knowing about it?
  
  As Adam Duritz sang 'If you've never stared off into the distance then your life is a shame.'
- I was like "époisses isn't obscure" but then I remembered my family is from a few km from there so I guess I'm a biased sample haha. Still though I'd say that's one of the more well known French cheese that you can find in any french region not just where it's from. Outside of France is another story for sure.
- This is why in France they start shoving that shit down their throat in kindergarten. They get little cheese tastings for lunch.
  Gotta keep the cheese machine going, ain't nobody eating fluffy cheese without indoctrination
- I walk by the cheese monger and point at a cheese and say "that looks tasty what is it".

The dairy industry is terrible for our world in many ways
- industry
  FWIW IMHO there lies the problem.
  Most produces done by an artisan, nearly regardless of the focus itself, often shows both love for the process, the final product, and nearly all link of the chain leading to it. Now... scaling that up seems to inexorably remove any beauty and humanity from it all. The end goal becomes gradually abstracted away. The steps are only there to be optimized, if not ideally removed entirely. Shortcuts are found, optimizations rely on dumping costs on the environment (negative externalities) and justifications are put forward, e.g. it's "the market" that demands it, it's for the shareholders, etc. In practice one is left with an extremely efficient "machine" that cheats it way out of every responsibility possible, that can be copy/pasted anywhere else without any regarding for the local ecosystem, being nature, culture, politics, etc. The relentless growth of such machines create powerful "industry" with lobby groups, ties to power bribing their ways for even more lenience.
  Scale and greed leave us with cheap products that are seemingly copies of the original yet devoid all humanity that made them beautiful in the first place.
  
  I agree with you. One other thing that's also very important to note: the immense animal cruelty involved in this industry. We shouldn't hurt animals on such a massive scale. Yet we do and have done for many years.
  
  It's good to that you recognize that cheese is extremely bourgeois.
  LE: typo

The crazy thing is cheese is so common in the US because the government did what government does and got involved in the dairy industry because of prohibition and things got out of hand and now we have stuffed crust pizza and the cheesy gordita crunch.
- Those cheese caves aren't going to empty themselves.
- There is a disgusting amount of lobbying and corruption in the agricultural industry. However, food security is an important part of a country. You wouldn't want to completely rely on other countries for food.
  
  You don't understand the issue.
  The government bought tons of milk to make ice cream during the war because ice cream took the social place of banned alcohol. They bought so much that dairy farmers scaled to meet demand. The government wanted to stop buying milk after the war and alcohol prohibition ended, that would have collapsed the market, so the government kept buying milk. They couldn't do anything with the milk but turn it into cheese that had no distribution to homes, so they stuck it in a cave and everybody forgot about it, while still stockpiling the cheese for decades. Eventually Regan was given the hot potato and he gave us government cheese.
  Well, dairy industry still needs to keep up demand, here comes the American Dairy Council and Dairy Management Inc with "Got Milk?", the concept that milk is the best way to build strong bones, dairy being so important on the food pyramid(wholly a marketing plan imagined by the FDA headed by leaders of the food industries), bailing out Dominos with free cheese, and a strategic partnership with entities such as the Yum! Corporation to push more cheese into American diets.
  We could have a healthy dairy industry with less milk products in our diets, but the government got more involved than they should have and doubled down to the detriment of the economy, industry, and the health of the citizens... Like they always do.

They don't want you to buy "cheese", they want you to buy "my brand of cheese"

OTOH... I'm not buying cheese and I'm never going to start buying cheese. ;) Equally applicable.

The only cheeses I refuse to even try are maggot and frumunda.
- Frumunda sounds delicious. Is it Italian?
  Googles it
  oh. oh no.
- I refuse anything by Kraft or anything individually sliced and wrapped in plastic. Imo it's not even cheese
  
  Even that cheese has its place in a burger or cheese and onion toastie.
  
  They're just a solidified cheese beshmel. It's cheddar, milk and binders to keep it solid. At least the good quality singles. Some of the cheaper ones are made with oils and have no actual cheese. Those ones behave and taste like plastic.
  
  Its actually just watered down cheese with like two other ingredients which are common food additives. This is a great vid of someone making their own 'american cheese'
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0aGNAxN5Z-o
- Same, same. I have standards. They might be low, but they are there.
- My Sardinian friend swears it delicious. If it was offered I think I would have to try it just to say I did it.
  
  The frumunda or the maggot?