Rule

Having so many communities concentrated in one instance is a problem

Having an architecture that locks communities to an instance is a problem. They should be distributed across the network with no notion of a home instance.
- How would moderation work then?
- That's just mastodon tags
- They still to be attached to an instance at the protocol level. Or you have instances which are barely network components rather than communities, but that's not what ActivityPub is about
- Then you run into problems with instance admins disagreeing over moderation
196 is a fascist shithole and they are leaving blahaj because they finally acknowledged that fact and that there is an associated problem with misogynists and chasers on their platform. Good on blahaj for kicking out the trash.
They will be right at home on .world and frankly concentrating all the reactionaries there is good because it will drive other people to less shitty instances.
It's called a fediverse for a reason
Why?
- Because then allowing flat-earthers affect all the communities: https://lemmy.world/post/24135976
  Also huge delay with some instances

Context

Also, lots of discussion under the announcement post in the new comm https://lemmy.world/post/24437552.
- Omg the disparity is palpable.
  The post you linked:
  we are going to continue to moderate on this instance exactly the same as we did on blahaj.zone.
  The "we've already left" style post on blahaj:
  Why? That's a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada's excellent team of admins...
  Edit: so in asking whether the moderation will appear the same to the users, the answer is "well yes, except actually no".
I'm on LW and both communities seem empty. This usually indicates defederation, right?
- No, that's something with your client. When I go to https://lemmy.world/c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com I see plenty of posts.
Thanks for keeping us up-to-date and jumping across communities/instances for this
- You're welcome

A balloon is an accurate allegory for reddit.world. it may be big but it's empty of anything of substance.

Seems like they didn't get the memo that the entire point of coming here was to decentralize.

Then again /c/196 sucks so that's a fitting instance for them. Blahaj is marginally better.

More like Nonce Sense.

196 is a horrible community full of transmysoginists and chasers and literal fascists.

- Here's an example of them defending chasers.
- Honestly I don't have the energy right now to go digging through old posts but there is a reason we defederated from blahaj, and it was well documented on hexbear at one point.
  196 on reddit was originally kind of alright but lax moderation allowed chasers and reactionaries in and they basically took over the subreddit and then inserted themselves into blahaj. Ada refused to acknowledge this problem and we severed ties but it looks like she realized we were right as I hear there are talks of refederating as one of our conditions was the removal of the 196 mods and tightening up moderation on their end.

I don’t fully understand this.

While having one big instance is not ideal, isn’t the idea that it should be easy to move once and if the big instance becomes draconian?

I thought the whole point of the fediverse was not to get locked into a walled garden and be able to decentralize as needed, ending up with a few big players is inevitable, no?

The issue here is that the community was doing well on one instance, then the mods decided to move without asking the community.
Details on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
- Okay yeah that’s a problem.
  Mods have been weird lately, my comment got removed for using the R word, not retardant.
- Convince the admins of the original instance to hand over the community on that instance to new mods, open it back up and let the old mods have their tantrum over on .world? Literally nothing requires there only be one community of a given name across all instances.

Instance wars are so fucking pathetic

You would say that coming from that dungheap at lemmy.zip!
- Hold on I just signed up here. What's wrong with lemmy.zip other than it's not the table you're sitting at?

when i saw that announcement post i literally did a double take at my watch to make sure it wasn’t April Fool’s Day

like that’s how dumb this idea was i thought it was a joke at first

Nonsence? Nonsence?

The machine that makes the memes also checks the spells you know.

Fantastic use of that meme format

Btw does someone have some place where i can read what happened exactly?

Good thing I'm just chilling on https://lemmy.cafe/, it's pretty nice here :)

Drag saw 196 mods mentioning their plan to move instances after Ada told them not to misgender trans people. "Ideological differences", huh? Wonder what that's code for

You did piss off a couple of powerusers dedicated to instance wars, but the mods are working to insist that's not what any of this is about.
- In the past 15 hours drag has read a lot about why the mods did it. Apparently, they weren't closing reports on Blahaj, so Ada actioned them, and Ada was stricter with the rules than they liked.
  When Ada said neopronouns aren't trolling, drag saw a lot of transphobic comments on 196 that the mods weren't removing. Drag was already banned from the community at that time and couldn't report them, so drag contacted Ada directly, and Ada removed them.
  At that time, moving the community out of the instance was a "maybe". Perhaps neopronouns were the last straw. At the time, the 196 mods were saying they didn't agree with the removals and bans of transphobia and misgendering.

Makes sense. The two padded rooms of Lemmy.

No way (that there is only two:-)