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misterdoctor @lemmy.world

2mo ago

FDA Bans Rule Dye 3

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Fox news: "ThE LiBeRaLs ArE tAkInG yOuR PsYcHo ReD SaUcE!"
"Fight the liberals oppression, take PCP!"

Sounds legit.
- There is actual evidence of some dyes causing behavioral issues in some children.
  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9052604/
  
  It happened to my son. When he was 2, he would barely talk and had behavioral issues. We stopped red and yellow dye, and within two weeks he was much calmer and saying full sentences. No lie. Most people don’t believe us, but it most definitely happened.
  
  There may also be evidence of certain red foods being red because of ingredients other than red food dye.
  
  I like that they'll admit that, then in the same breath say sugar has no affect on kids.
- Heh, I was first laughing, but looks like it indeed caused behavioral problems for some kids: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythrosine#United_States
  
  Yeah, although sweet-and-sour sauce in the US typically has E129 (Red Dye No 40) rather than E127 (Red Dye No 3), which the FDA are banning. There is a whole bunch of anecdotal correlation drawn between E129 and behavior, though, so it wouldn't be a huge surprise to see it reviewed in the future.
- It actually is. Several people I know have this issue, I think they're all autistic people or people with ADHD, so that may be related, just as a note.
  
  I have ADHD and probably also the 'tism and I've never felt like hurting others or myself after eating sauce that happened to be red because it contained red ingredients. After eating anything, really, for that matter.

All hail red 40!

For some reason the way the breading on these things looks weirds me out. They look like little newborn rodents or something... Makes me think of the "Poplers" episode of Futurama.
- Those came to my mind immediately, too!
- They look like fried bits of tumors or something. Too round, too smooth. Like those gross cancer pigs in The Outer Worlds.
  
  You're gonna shit your pants if you ever see tempura
- You just made it more appetizing to me by comparing them to popplers. Every time I watch that episode I wish I could enjoy a poppler at fishy joes.... They make it look so good.

Notice how people are always quick to be suspicious of Chinese food but we don't see the same treatment of all the various "normal" products people regularly consume that contain red dye 3 (like pez, strawberry milk, etc.).
ETA (Edited to Add): see Chinese Restaurant Syndrome, for example:
The controversy about MSG is tied to racial stereotypes against East Asian societies.[25][26][27][28][29] Herein, specifically East Asian cuisine was targeted, whereas the widespread usage of MSG in Western processed food does not generate the same stigma.[30] These kind of perceptions, such as the rhetoric of the so-called Chinese restaurant syndrome, have been attributed to xenophobic or racist biases.[31][32][33][34][35][36]
Food historian Ian Mosby wrote that fear of MSG in Chinese food is part of the United States' long history of viewing the "exotic" cuisine of Asia as dangerous and dirty.

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