So they’re admitting that Trump, a private citizen, interfered with US foreign policy, which is yet another crime.
Just like when Nixon sabotaged the Paris peace talks, or when Reagan betrayed the American hostages in Iran.
People need to remember Netanyahu wants Trump in power, so is going to make decisions that are good optics for Trump when he can. He similarly made decisions that are bad optics for Biden on purpose. While Biden did himself no favors, never forget Netanyahu is the one who put him in that position.
It's so odd that the time line for this surge of fighting happened right through the election cycle. You know, it's almost like if you were to coordinate political strategies with your allies you could find advantageous opportunities that serve each other to the disadvantage of your opponents. Except, that could never happen, right? Right? As if what appeared to be genocide was just sloppy blitzkrieg trying to cause as much damage as possible in a limited time frame.
Ok, I'll shut up now, I wouldn't want people to think those with unlimited resources are capable of high level strategic warfare.
Does it count as ending the genocide if he helps Israel kill all the remaining Palestinians so there are none left to genocide? 🤔
Well, it ended, didn't it?
This fits the bill with the actual bad faith arguments that tankies make constantly.
I would like to remind people this conflict is decades and decades old, it's not a democrat thing, or republican thing. America has supported this genocide for over 50 years. The democrats and republicans of now will surely, if unfortunately, continue.
While true, I'm over 50 and have never seen such mechanized destruction in my lifetime. And yes, now I'm woke to the fact that my country has supported this shit the whole time.
Israel must be the worst genocider in the history of genocides, considering the Palestinian Arab population has grew from 944k to 5 million in this time, and that's not counting the Palestinian diaspora. Arab population of Israel has also grew, from 200k to 2 million right now. Like I said the worst genocide in history, the only genocide where the genocided population grows.
Sources:
Even Arab israelis are still oppressed, despite having citizenship. Arabs in the south levant are at best, second class citizens. And at worst, targets.
Not only the politicians actively express their wish for genocide, Netanyahu has actively compared palestinians to Amalek, which has been used as justification by people like Baruch Goldstein.
More like 3000 years+. The entire region has been fucked up forever. They just have had someone else to blame for the last 70 years.
The whole world was at war for most of history. Also, among others:
Ptolemaic rule brought stability and economic prosperity to the region.[120][121]
The Byzantine era was a time of great prosperity and cultural flourishing in Palestine.[181]
Yes, the region has been in conflict for far longer then a century. I'm talking about the country of isreal, as its less then 125 years old. Zionism is the part that wants the genocide of palastine for the new state of isreal, which started a bit over 100 years ago and america has been a long supporter of.
50 years. lol. there it is. 50 year genocide, for arabs, in the middle east.
You sure got him...
Trump stops the genocide
OOP must have been fucking zooted out of his mind, no sensible Arab or person in general believes trump is going to solve anything; in fact, he will make everything so much worse.
At this point, i wish the best for our brothers and sisters in Palestine, and i hope they live to see the end of the genocide. It's a lose-lose situation for them either way, but one way is clearly worse.
Unfortunately there was a significant bloc of Arab-American (and just anti-genocide) US voters that thought trump cared about them and their plight. It was shortly after the election when he started hiring the most genocidal cabinet that they said, “hey!” There were a lot of articles about it. How people fell for that I don’t understand—well, I do, but I wish I didn’t. People can’t think two feet in front of their faces. They got on the whole “genocide Joe” train—which, let’s be real, this admin is very much bloody-handed. But that does not make the other option better. People cannot grasp nuance whatsoever. It’s an all-encompassing problem that manifested in this way this time.
He's more likely to finish the genocide rather than stop it.
I'm also very concerned about Sudan and Syria, too. The democrats were always shit like all politicians and political parties; but republicans are very up front on what they want to do to us.
jfc, i don't know who i hate more: democrats who want to keep funding israel, or pro palestinians voting for trump. Either way, the death will continue.
Well hey, one of the reasons one might stop a genocide is because it’s been accomplished. So they may end up being technically correct on the first part.
I'm just going to link this article:
https://newrepublic.com/article/172324/its-settled-reagan-campaign-delayed-release-iranian-hostages
Henry Kissinger did something similar to delay the end of the Vietnam war, in order to get Nixon elected.
...are we counting "no Palestinians left" as the end of the genocide? 😬
The fact that some people voted for a basically open fascist because of something happening outside of their country is fucking wild
I just hate when they say one imperialist colonizer is bad (Israel) yet another good (Russia). Fucking hypocrites don't actually care about the suffering - just the political wedge they can use.
I haven't ever even broached Tibet because I don't think I could stomach witnessing the ensuing trainwreck of logic.
It's just so incredibly intellectually disingenuous. I got in it with one at one point (big mistake on my part) saying that no country or system is perfect, and a meaningful indicator evidencing critical thought is the capacity to criticize your own system. What, in their mind, were the top issues with China?
- Too much freedom in the market.
- Doesn't project it's system outside it's border enough.
Ok. I'm talking to a rational actor. Lol.
".ml" as in the self help group for solvent abusers?
Tankies and trump supporters:
regressive fascist fuckface supporters and tankies all along:
One can hope.
Other than hoping, I am donating a few bucks to the most pro-Palestinian politicians.
I have been looking for protests but they are hard to learn about.
There's no mental issue. We'll be glad someone stopped it.
Who’s the we in this scenario?
The people who were presenting about Gaza.
Suppose trump was actually the one to negotiate a cease fire with Palestinians and Isreal. That can only be considered in hindsight and would not change the harm reduction calculation. Notice how no one was arguing that trump would actually be the one to end the fighting in Gaza?
Right.
what genocide? arabs attack, rape, and murder, then esconce the terrorists directly in and between civilian populations for the sole reason so that when israel responds the body count can be escalated and used as public relations. genocide. shame on you.
Wow. Just universally equating all Arabs to one another. So, to you, there’s no difference whatsoever between individual Arabs, they all believe and act exactly the same, all over the world? Doesn’t matter who specifically did the things you’re claiming, they’re all guilty?
Quite possibly the most blatantly racist comment I’ve seen to date on Lemmy. And you have the audacity to call out others here.
I hope you do some serious introspection before speaking on this topic again.
This guy is pretty fucking racist in general. Clearly he doesn't understand that the actions of countries doesn't represent the actions of people. He said this about Russians too. (I support Ukraine but it's not okay to hate Russians despite their government) with his "logic" none of us are free from sin, yet he'll complain if you treat him as such.
How he is not banned off this platform, I have no idea.
shame on you.
No U
Your hasbara saves me from having to check the modlog for why you're banned from .ml for a year.
Sadly there are too much Anti-western actors interested in it being perceived as genocide, no matter what's happening on the ground. With billions of Qatari/IRGC/Putin/CCP money it can be easy to spread a narrative, especially against the only state that is Jewish
And kudos for combating "the poplar" narrative, I used to argue quite a lot about politics a year ago back on kbin, but after a bunch of the same discussions and buzzwords lost motivation to do it
And then there is the rest of the Fediverse thinking this squabble between. World and. Ml is fucking retarded
The only reason it's stupid is because the answer is obvious launch the .ml instance into the sun.
*stupid, please avoid ableism when you can.
Every single word which has been used to refer to a mentally disabled person will, eventually, become a slur.
"Idiot" and "moron" used to be technical medical terms. There actually used to be a whole spectrum, with "idiot" being a pretty profound level of disability, meaning that someone's mental age was around two years old or younger.
"Retarded" was a new invention, to introduce a new term which didn't overlap with the slurs for a non-disabled person who was being stupid. Eventually, it came to be used as a slur, at which point we couldn't used it for actually disabled people anymore. This cycle will repeat, I think, without end.
Probably the best thing to do is use terms which are too cumbersome to easily become slurs. "Mentally disabled" is one.
