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NVIDIA's RTX 5090 graphics card costs $2,000

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NVIDIA announces new RTX 5090 graphics card that costs $2,000 at CES

The first salvo of RTX 50 series GPU will arrive in January, with pricing starting at $549 for the RTX 5070 and topping out at an eye-watering $1,999 for the flagship RTX 5090. In between those are the $749 RTX 5070 Ti and $999 RTX 5080. Laptop variants of the desktop GPUs will follow in March, with pricing there starting at $1,299 for 5070-equipped PCs.

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I just...I just don't need fps and resolution that much. Godspeed to those that feel they do need it.
- No one should, video graphics haven't progressed that far. Only the lack of optimisation has.
  
  You're missing a major audience willing to pay $2k for these cards, people wanting to run large AI language models locally.
- I'm staying on 1440p deliberately. My 3080 is still perfectly fine for a few more years, at least current console gen.
  
  You're not wrong. I just recently upgraded my whole machine going from a 3090 to a 4090 on 1440p and basically can't tell the difference.
  
  I've ditched my gaming PC and am currently playing my favorite game (Kingdom Come Deliverance) on an old laptop. Which means I can't go higher than 800x480.
  And honestly, the immersion works. After a couple minutes I don't notice it anymore.
The prices are high, but what really is shocking are the power consumption figures. The 5090 is 575W(!!), while the 5080 is 360W, 5070Ti is 300W, and the 5070 is 250W.
If you are getting one of these, factor in the cost of a better PSU and your electric bill too. We're getting closer and closer to the limit of power from a US electrical socket.
- Going to need to run a separate PSU on a different branch circuit at this rate.
- 1000W PSU pulls max 8.3A on a 120v circuit.
  Residential circuits in USA are 15-20A, very rarely are they 10 but I've seen some super old ones or split 20A breakers in the wild.
  A single duplex outlet must be rated to the same amperage as the breaker in order to be code, so with a 5090 PC you're around half capacity of what you'd normally find, worst case. Nice big monitors take about an amp each, and other peripherals are negligible.
  You could easily pop a breaker if you've got a bunch of other stuff on the same circuit, but that's true for anything.
  I think the power draw on a 5090 is crazy, crazy high don't get me wrong, but let's be reasonable here - electricity costs yes, but we're not getting close to the limits of a circuit/receptacle (yet).
  
  How far out are we from gpus that also dry your laundry
  
  Actually the National Electric Code (NEC) limits loads for 15 Aac receptacles to 12 Aac, and for 20 Aac receptacles 16 Aac iirc because those are the breaker ratings and you size those at 125% of the load (conversely, 1/125% = 80% where loads should be 80% of the break ratings).
  So with a 15 Aac outlet and a 1000 Wac load at minimum 95% power factor, you're drawing 8.8 Aac which is ~73% of the capacity of the outlet (8.8/12). For a 20 Aac outlet, 8.8 Aac is ~55%% capacity (8.8/16).
  Nonetheless, you're totally right. We're not approaching the limit of the technology unlike electric car chargers.
575W TDP is an absolute fucking joke.
Welp, looks like I'll start looking at AMD and Intel instead. Nvidia is pricing itself at a premium that's impossible to actually meet compared to competitors.
There will be people that buy it. Professionals that can actually use the hardware and can justify it via things like business tax benefits, and those with enough money to waste that it doesn't matter.
For everyone else, competitors are going to be much better options. Especially with Intel's very fast progression into the dedicated card game with Arc and generational improvements.
5000 series cards are made for idiots
- 5000 series cards are made for professionals and idiots
  
  I’m here to represent the professionals ∩ idiots. We exist too.
  Although seeing those prices is reminding me my mobile 3070 has been perfectly usable
- Some people don't care about spending $2000 for whatever. I mean, I'm not one of those people but they probably exist.
  
  I'm probably one of those people. I don't have kids, I don't care much about fun things like vacations, fancy food, or yearly commodity electronics like phones or leased cars, and I'm lucky enough to not have any college debt left.
  A Scrooge McDuck vault of unused money isn't going to do anything useful when I'm 6 feet underground, so I might as well spend a bit more (within reason) on one of the few things that I do get enjoyment out of.
  Specifically: doing research on what I want; waiting for high-end parts to go on sale; never buying marked-up AIB partner GPUs; and only actually upgrading things every 5~6 years after I've gotten good value out of my last frivolous purchase.
  
  My company could buy me this (for video editing), but I mostly need it for vram that should be cheap. I would like to be able to afford it without it doubling the price of my pc.
- More money than sense, as they say.
  
  Just sell drugs bro, I buy whatever the fuck I want from microcenter. Straight cash.
The 2k USD price is surely only in order to make the cheaper cards appear reasonably priced.
Just using this thread as a reminder the new Intel Arc B580 is showing 4060 performance for only $250
- That's synthetic tests in favourable environment.
  
  That's the exact scenario I optimize my games and system at large to operate in. Thanks bro
I bought my 4080 super recently and hopes it last me a good +12 years like my old card did. These prices are insane!
- I'm rocking a 1660su until I literally can't anymore.
  
  My old card literally died and was forced to get a new one.
  Sleep tight, prince, my AMD R9 Fury x. You will be missed.
My question is will the 5080 perform half as fast as the 5090. Or is it going to be like the 4080 vs 4090 again where the 4080 was like 80% the price for 60% the performance?
- You know it's the latter... and that even those numbers are probably optimistic.
- I think that at higher resolutions (4k) there is gonna be a bit bigger difference than in gen 40 bcs of 256bit vs 384bit mem bussy in 4080 vs 4090 compared to 256bit vs 512bit in 5080 vs 5090.
  That memory throughput & bandwidth might not get such a big bump in the next gen or two.
  
  mem bussy
  well there’s a mental image
I really wanted a 512bit-bussy GPU for a decade+ ... but perhaps never is just as good.
- I don't know a lot about computers, but I do know a fair amount about bussy. $2000 for 512 is a steal!
  
  Sure hope I could buy two packs of 512 and screw them down in SLI mode.
  
  I don't know a lot about computers, but I do know a fair amount about bussy.
  All Linux-related communities on lemmy.
From google:
The RTX 4090 was released as the first model of the series on October 12, 2022, launched for $1,599 US, and the 16GB RTX 4080 was released on November 16, 2022 for $1,199 US.
So they dropped the 80 series in price by $200 while increasing the 5090 by $400.
Pretty smart honestly. Those who have to have the best are willing to spend more and I’m happy the 80 series is more affordable.
Why do people buy this stuff? It only takes like a year before it falls in price as the next one comes along. Gotta get that last 2FPS, I guess.
- Video cards don't fall in price anymore lol
- it seems people realized this and the old cards aren't even properly falling in price anymore, even on the used market
  
  Yeah I'm never willing to afford the best. I usually build a new computer with second best parts. With these prices my next computer will be with third best stuff I guess.
And this is BEFORE the tariffs!
- But you see because of the tariffs the American gamers will just default to American GPUs, duh.
  
  I'm not super informed about the developments but, won't this be in the realm of possibility with the new Intel facilities being constructed?
  As a result of the Biden admin's chips and science act, is what I'm eluding to.
- There's gonna be as many tariffs as there were walls that got built and paid for by Mexico.
  Not because it's bad for the American people.
  It's because the same people in congress who would install tariffs are making hundreds of millions hand over first on insider trading stocks. They aren't gonna fuck up the gravy train for Trumps dumb ass campaign ramblings.
  
  Unfortunately Trump can unilaterally impose tariffs in a lot of cases. That's why the price of olive oil soared in his first term.
Another billionaire out of touch with reality.
- His reality is selling everything faster than he can produce it at any price or performance. Sooooo.
They claim the 5070 gives 4090 performance for $549. that lower end of the 50 series line up looks nice.
- That "4090 performance" includes the new frame generation where only a quarter of all frames is rendered. It's borderline false advertising.
  
  It's called upcycling if the frame is generated then the kids have to mine less virgin frames from the mines. Before this breakthrough we were rendering so many frames the landfills were completely full.
- At much higher power consumption
  
  The 5070 is rated at 250 wats vs the 4090 at 450 wats.
smd Nvidia
Can't wait for AMD to price their top of the line GPU at $1500 and call it a good deal. I hope Intel can keep some sane pricing
- AMD isn't doing high end cards any more.
  
  I forgot they weren't doing an 80 tier or higher competitor next generation. Their pricing is still out of whack since they find the competing Nvidia card and price it a bit cheaper. I know people will still buy their cards and they're still usually better value than Nvidia but their prices are still blowing up

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