The Greatest Lie about the Red Scare is that it Ended

Socialism is the people. If you are afraid of socialism, you're afraid of yourself.

• Fred Hampton

My dad: “Yeah, maybe a good solution to the problem of not being able to pay rent would be government-provided housing”

Also my dad: “Socialism is horrible! If it wasn’t, then why would EVERYONE be trying to leave Communist countries like Russia and the rest of Eastern Europe???”

"No, no, they tries to tricks us, precious [capitalism]! They wants to take you from us, stop you from helping us, precious, gollum!"

I'm not really knowledgeable enough to contribute to the discussion going on here.

I just wanted to say I've seen you engaging in good faith discussion all over Lemmy, and I really, really, appreciate that. Whenever socialism, communism, Marxism and the like come up, people are quick to jump to ad hominem and flinging shit-covered sarcasm at each other, and you consistently engage thoughtfully in the discussion, even when your interlocutors don't. Thank you.

Ignore what politicians say, look at what they do.

All you have to do is come up with a new name for it. It's not like any of them have a clue about what socialism actually entails.

Humans are brainwashed into thinking it's "Human nature" to be greedy and self-centered, so when someone comes offering help those stuck in this condition can't help but think "What's the catch?"

And the clearer it is that the person has good intent, the more dangerous the catch must be.

BBILBO BBAGGINS

But the talking head on Fox told me what to think about socialism, using no facts or common sense.

What am I supposed to do? NOT believe them?

"but you're gonna take my private property !"

the fear for good, is the fear for change or admitting they where wrong. it is pride, as well as lazyness, combined with stupidity and weakness. because weakness is not how strong one seems(or lack there of) but weakness, is how little a person would be their real self, as well as how much they assume that in order to be strong they need to supress others so they are in a worse state than them. supressing people is a sign of the weak, because they are blinded and can only destroy.

That's right, they aren't going to overcome their irrational fears. They'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future until it becomes normal and they realize the sky didn't fall. I actually had hope that we were on the verge of a strong progressive wave, but then millions of people decided not to show up because Harris wasn't perfect enough for them. So basically fuck y'all, and good luck with the whole People's Front of Judea vs the Judean People's Front deal. The thing about MAGA is they fucking show up, and they're gonna keep showing the fuck up. Idiots need to figure out that you don't make change happen by turning away when your ideal options don't appear on a menu so you can click on one and go back to scrolling. /end rant

If we can simply help Americans understand small-s socialism from small-c communism, we'd be in much better shape.

Because yes, my healthcare is already paid in advance by me and everyone else from our taxes; and my buddy's emergency Sunday morning quintuple stent install after the widowmaker heart attack and two ambulances and a bed in one hospital before transfer (a third bus) to the regional trauma/cardiac center for the operation and 2 weeks of aftercare was free to him that day -- and his only concern was not dying. And that's not just normal but that's the general expectation. No monthly subscription, no premium cost, no user fee, just paid-parking and vendor-machine food for visitors not coming in via the train.

Our upcoming election will gut that, though. Being bankrupt, losing retirement savings and mortgaged to the hilt at 61 is the American dream mr Polievre has for all Canadian plebes.

How is this a meme?

It had everything to do with human greed.

As long as there is the suggestion or possibility, no matter how remote that anyone of us can become enormously wealthy, we won't want to change the system.

I don't know what worse, the corruption of communism or the corruption of capitalism. Right now, we're in the American Nightmare stage of capitalism. Seems to me humanity can't have an economic system where a group of people want all the wealth and power.

I love how people act like their knowledge alone somehow makes them better than their peers, just utilizing knowledge to appear aloof, or above it all, when in reality, if capitalism shot itself in the chest and socialism took over tomorrow, we would still have the same rich 1% families stealing from the working class and none of us would actually be in any better a position because no damned political system to date has figured out how to keep the rich from sacrificing the poor for their own selfish ends. End of story. Time to change.

Capitalism sucks because of oligarchs and kleptocrats, and socialism also sucks because of oligarchs and kleptocrats.

Remember Stalin and his style of socialism? Just because one hell sucks doesn’t mean another hell is better.

The only type of socialism which has made any kind of sense in recent times is the Nordic Model.

Edit let’s not kid ourselves about the “greatness” of socialist countries when China has 50% poverty rate

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/poverty-rate-by-country

Here’s also a great article on how everyday life was like in the Soviet Union, https://shs.cairn.info/article/E_ANNA_682_0305?lang=en

Most people just want to be left alone and socialism is the farthest thing from being left alone. They say there is no private property in socialism but really you become the property.

Socialism has been tried many times in all forms but pure unregulated capitalism hasn't yet.