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  • This is such a dishonest take. The real take away is is no one really believed there was election fraud.

    • There’s an entire machine telling them they’re right to think what they do. They have an emotional investment in it.

      I think they can talk themselves into whatever they want to believe. Seriously, we’re talking about people who willfully ignore all sorts of historic geopolitical events as references for everything from populism to fascism, think their Sky Fairy has in some way ordained this anti-Christ like figure, and ignore every economic, medical, and scientific expert offering objective facts about what does and doesn’t work.

      So if they’re being told there is election fraud, it exists, until it doesn’t.

      • This is my personal take, feel free to read past me.

        I'm always reminded of the people who say they have no inner monologue. Not that these people have any difference in congnative capability but more that their experience is so different from my own. I'm sure, and have seen, if you sit a trump supporter down and put their feet to the fire you learn their beliefs are built on a pile of shit. Despite all of that, there really must be something else there that let's them detach themselves from reality. At heart I know what it is. Deep inside every trump supporter is a scared person who has figured out the world is meaningless and they are grain of sand on an endless beach. That's too much for them so instinctively they forfeit their automony and accept what ever reality is being broadcasted the loudest externally. So it's never really that their beliefs are failing them it's that their beliefs are as temporary as a passing fad. Culture on the other hand is more permanent and they spend zero time reconciling culture with more piffy ideas like "news." In this way they can have opposing beliefs at the same time.

        Ok ok, that's a lot but then you think, where do all the pseudo intectuals and pundits come from? It's gamification, which is the same as capitalism but in the gamification of media influence is the capital. This is how you have people saying things they don't actually believe but remain united in a common goal. Capitalism aligns perfectly because they are the same.

    • It's amazing what people can convince themselves is true if they really want it to be true. Even in the face of all evidence to the contrary.

      See virtually every silly conspiracy theory with a following.

    • But they played to their rage and their hatred, which are really all these people have to bring meaning to their lives, so they latch onto whatever ideas allow them to freely hate and rage, and channel the dark side of the force into doubling down on these utterly made up ideas.

  • Percentage change for each:

    Democrats: -15.5%

    Republicans: +166.7%

    Independent: -10.8%

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