The U.S. announced $5.9 billion in additional aid to Ukraine, including $2.5 billion in military support and $3.4 billion in budget assistance, as President Biden finalizes his term.
This brings total U.S. military aid since 2022 to $61.4 billion and budget aid to over $30 billion, supporting Ukraine’s government and military amid intensifying Russian attacks.
Biden emphasized the importance of continued support, though uncertainty looms under Trump, who has questioned U.S. involvement.
Treasury Secretary Yellen warned against cutting aid, calling Ukraine’s success vital to U.S. interests.
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Agreed though I struggle with it. It's not the best choice but it's better than nothing. So by default, better world than before the decision. Still struggling though with separating a good deed from way too little way too fucking late and, sorry I can't stop myself, a decision by way too fucking old a fart thst won't last to see the end of the next four years.
And again Tha ks for he call to civil ty and objectivism. Just do fucking hard...
/ed: adjusted for correct English figure of speech. "too little too late"
It's a proxy war so the US military industrial complex and politicians can make more money. It's unfortunate two countries are fighting but it's not the problem of the US people. Also you can't fix other's problems if you (the USA) have too many problems of your own that need attending to first. I would not compare this to WWII, and hopefully it doesn't turn into a nuclear WWIII because of the US antagonizations.
Imagine if the US didn't do a lend-lease deal to the USSR during WWII... There wouldn't be a Russia today. Most of Europe would be known as "Germany". And Japan would be ruling most of the Pacific.
All this money spent in a war we helped create when a fraction of it would help erase homelessness; hunger; and education access for all Americans today.
I don't know how many times this needs to be explained, but this is not money. It is not stacks of cash we could use to hand out to the homeless, or to rent them apartments.
This is war materiel. Artillery shells, vehicles, etc. It is assigned a dollar value. This is stuff we have sitting in warehouses, sometimes pretty old and in need of replacement anyway.
I'm no fan of the military industrial complex, but these donations could even be seen as a way to create American jobs in American factories, building modern replacements for what is being sent.
For most of this stuff it would cost more to dispose of than it does to send it to Ukraine. And when they send the old stuff, someone gets a job creating new stuff to replace it.
Well said. I’ve had countless conversations about this as well. Either people are too ignorant to understand military aid or are arguing in bad faith. It’s kind of insane how many upvotes these comments get.
You do know we can do more than one thing at time, right? Increase taxes on the rich, reduce subsidies for fossil fuels, those are just two off the top of my head. So, yes, strictly speaking you’re right that a certain amount can help offset things, but it doesn’t mean it needs to come from here.
Also, what do you mean by “we helped create”. Fairly certain the US didn’t tell Putin to go invade a sovereign country.
To be fair Russia had been screaming for 8 years that if America didn't stop messing around in Ukraine that it would force them to go to war. Wasn't like they just one day woke up and decided to invade for no reason.
I don't know how many times this needs to be explained, but this is not money. It is not stacks of cash we could use to hand out to the homeless, or to rent them apartments.
This is war materiel. Artillery shells, vehicles, etc. It is assigned a dollar value. This is stuff we have sitting in warehouses, sometimes pretty old and in need of replacement anyway.
I'm no fan of the military industrial complex, but these donations could even be seen as a way to create American jobs in American factories, building modern replacements for what is being sent.