“I am a leftist who hates Russia and China”

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Bro thinks Russia's left-wing.
- I think that's more a fault of the meme being overly simplified, nobody thinks Russia is Leftist, but that for its own selfish interests it must work against the US for now. That's one problem with OP's memes, many times they are overly simplified and thus get across incorrect messages, which causes agitprop to backfire. Sadly, Russia is no longer Socialist, and nobody knows this better than Marxists, along with the sheer level of tragedy its fall has been for the former Soviets and humanity in general.

Putin is a Neoliberal ShitLib, capitalism always sucks regardless of the country (Russia, China, etc)
- Russia is certainly Capitalist, but China is Socialist. I think this post is pretty poorly made if I'm being honest, it equalizes the PRC and RF when the PRC is Socialist and the RF is a Capitalist country. Marxists generally only critically support Russia in that it works against US hegemony out of desparation and survival, not because it's a genuinely good country.
  
  China is "mixed", they have billionaires and poor working conditions.

What's your stance on North Korea?
- Based af country. Defeated the USA and has kept its freedom from the empire even after brutal sanctions, same as Cuba
  
  What about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge?

I mean the joke is for the people who are getting mad and adding the downvotes that you're focused on other countries that are the specific targets of US propaganda and not that Russia or China are paragons of awesome. All nations are flawed but clearly diverting every conversation by leftists mostly in the US to China and Russia is a propaganda tactic by US astroturfing. In every way the US is worse than every other nation on earth.
- Yea, I feel this meme is not very conducive to productive conversations. It acknowledges the two largest targets of US foreign policy (outside of the DPRK and maybe Cuba), but does so in a manner that doesn't contradict the US narrative or highlight how they are propagandized. Moreover, there's good reason to hate the Russian Federation, while critically supporting them, but this post equates the RF and PRC in a way that shouldn't really be done.
  That's why good agitprop is focused on simple facts that are easily proven and framed in a way that challenges existing notions, and doesn't stereotype the poster.
  
  Yeah, I agree that it isn't particularly effective or clear I'm just responding to the comments I can't even see because my instance blocks lemmy.world.

“I am a leftist who hates Russia and China”
Take your critique off my support!

Definitely not how I'd want my commune to be structured, but to each their own. I just hope that's what the people who live there really want.
- In Russia? Eh. The majority preferred the Soviet system, by quite a large margin. In China? Harvard studies suggest an over 95% approval rate for the CPC, so while this certainly could change, the populace generally supports the current system to a much greater degree than Capitalist countries.
  
  I'd certainly be interested in how those Harvard studies were accomplished what with much of China not being on the Internet. 95 percent certainly sounds high.

Leftists in the U.S. can actually make change in the U.S. at a local scale, so we talk against the CCPR because what else can we do.

i like to think that i'm plugged into lemmy; but then these insider joke posts keeping popping and i'm so confused.
if it weren't for the intense level of brigading; it probably wouldn't have been aware that there was any controversy at all.
- I don't think there is brigading, I keep coming across these posts on /all, no doubt many others too. If the posts on lemmy.ml are not supposed to be seen/interacted with by other instances, why is it federated with them?

A catholic who hates the vatican. A doctor who hates the hospital they work at. A conservative who hates the republican party.
- A leftist who wants capitalism, imperialism, authoritarianism, oligarchies gon- but wait not in a couple of places :)
  
  Thanks for understanding the irony I was attempting. Guess I'm off on my delivery.

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