What Do Democrats Need to Do? Act Like an Opposition Party.
What Do Democrats Need to Do? Act Like an Opposition Party.
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And they won’t.
The Democratic Party is frankly played out at this point. It’s pretty obviously a zombie party. We need a new one that isn’t beholden to neoliberalism.
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They're wholly captured by vested interests.
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Lets call it the giant meteor party, GMP. Itll be about issues related to social good, universal healthcare, age and wealth limits on government officials, banning lobbyists and pacs, eliminating the electoral college, progressive taxation, and defunding the military industrial complex. No centrists allowed. They can pick social good or they can be republicans.
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Although i was already leaning this way but Geriatric Nancy Pelosi pushing the vote against AOC from the hospital from her broken hip made me decide I won't be voting Democrat in the national elections any time soon.
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Please keep that attitude in 2028, when every mention of voting third party gets you called a Nazi and "a vote for 3P is a vote for Trump!!"
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When there's a viable third party candidate, sure.
Otherwise - yes, it is a vote against your own interests. Hi, I'm one of those who pointed out its just a vote for trump in this past election. It was true then, its still true now. You don't start during the presidential election season, or you're just a grifter.
You push for 3rd party in local and state elections and get viable candidates.
Jill Stein is still nothing more than a piece of trash grifter.
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Well, it is, statistically. The voting system makes sure of that. We need a better system before we can vote for the best, not the one who is most likely to beat the worst.
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Failing to account for the constraints of the system you’re participating in is a recipe for failing to succeed in said system.
I’m not saying I like the DNC - in fact, I have come to outright detest the party as a whole. But there’s a reason why all the younger progressive legislators are still in the Democratic Party, and that’s tactical political pragmatism. That said, I do think the results of this election, and this continuing ratfucking by the DNC oligarchs is going to be seen as the breaking point in history books (if we eventually pull out of this authoritarian slide and have history books in the future, that is).
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Different scenario. The hard work of getting a new party or new candidates into the process needs to be done right now. If you don't see any fruits of that hard work come election day then you need to go with the stop-gap option.
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They dont need to "act like" it, they need to actually be it.
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No, they need to be an opposition party for the first fucking time in decades.
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The dems suck too. This is a class war. We need a class party. One where no office member can make above what the bottom 80% of the country makes and no dodgy bullshit or gifts or spousal income workarounds or anything else.
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That's literally all they've been doing since Reagan.
acting like an opposition party.
It took way too long, but that's why you can't drum up the numbers anymore, all but the thickest of skulls have finally realized that Democrat and Republican are both just big corpo, bickering over the social issue symptoms of our rigged economy and society as they maintain the economy and it's perverse incentives as it is, on the same take by the same oligarchs.
At least Republicans throw their horrible voters a bone, "Oh you hate the other? we'll be cruel to them to entertain you and tickle your schaudenfreude fancy!"
Democrats get nothing for their troubles. We're told it's our duty.
Meanwhile, killing your own non wealthy customers for moar profit? R👍D👌
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I'm reluctantly happy that people are starting to see that wedge issues are crafted by corporations and parroted by business bought representative to pit man against man who can barely buy bread to the point where e pluribus unum was meaningless there decades ago. Greed has no party affiliation.
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What I've learned from the last two presidential elections is that right now, the incumbent party loses if people are unhappy with the current state of the country. A clever, but evil opposition party would try to make things worse.
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This is why "doing what republiQans do" isn't a useful tactic for Democrats. Never has been, though the party leaders have never learned it.
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both sides are bought and paid for with the same checks
only thing that could be done is to start over
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Both sides do raise money to operate, but the people funding the two parties are, to a very large extent, different.
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Michael Fucking Bloomberg is the top individual Democrat contributor in 2024.
A billionaire is a billionaire is a billionaire. When people say they are funded by the same people, we mean they're funded by the same class interests. Individual small donations from the working class are a literal drop in the bucket compared to what the wealthy contribute.
The Democrats are still funded by the same set of class interests as the Republicans: the wealthy.
If the majority of your funding comes from people who like low taxes for the rich, don't like programs to help the poor, and who generally just want to benefit the already-wealthy, then you're going to really fucking struggle to represent interests of the working class, because the people funding you will stop funding you when you stop focusing on their problems.
Michael Bloomberg in my eyes is not materially different from Elon Musk. But sure, somehow the people funding the party are "different." We didn't just watch Pelosi squash AOCs committee for her wealthy donors, who don't like AOC or what she's selling. Give me a break.
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Seriously. If you haven't switched your party affiliation to Independent, how's the time to do it. It'll take a pretty big hit to their register to actually get the lames in D.C. to care about us again
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Pelosi's little crusade against AOC should be a wake up call to anyone thinking the Dems have any way of moving forward.
Get rid of the dinosaurs and embrace progressivism, or perish.
The old guard seems to prefer the latter.
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Too bad they’re paid not to by their corporate overlords.
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They'll come up with a nifty hashtag like #resist or #democracy
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And send out even more fundraising emails.
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Hey, Obamna here, I need about $3.50.
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The key work here is "act'' like an actor.
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Dems seem to have fallen completely off the face of the Earth since the election. Looks like it will take a while to get over this. They better do it fast, though.
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Pass laws to limit election spending/fund raising so that the playing field is about as even as we can manage. After those are set in stone and strong, dismantle the national committees and open the actual gates to allow whoever to run for office.
Even doing this wouldn't change much though. The popularity contest not at all based on policy would still reign supreme and American voters are still American voters.
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This clip is just a bit chilling to hear them say it out loud and welcome it. I get it they’re Russians but we’re cooked unless something happens between now and inauguration. Only posting the link to reddit because I don’t know which video the clip is from and wasn’t going to sift through Russian pundit videos. I periodically check that subreddit in hopes something does happen because as we all know trump is a Russian asset and they only want the downfall of America. He will divide us all. What we can do though is not let them win and we need to not turn against our own people, no matter how much we disagree on politics because the end result will be much worse.
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we are passed the ballot box.
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The notion that any politician right now NEEDS to do anything is a desperate and lazy claim by the citizens. We are the ones that need to rise to action. They are quite comfortable where they are.
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