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Donald Trump gets bad news about his tariff plan from Americans in new poll

www.newsweek.com Donald Trump gets bad news about his tariff plan from Americans in new poll

In a WalletHub Fed Rate survey, 74 percent of Americans said Trump's proposed tariffs would likely lead to more inflation down the line.

Summary

A new WalletHub poll reveals that 74% of Americans believe Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs will worsen inflation, which remains a major concern for most households.

Trump’s plan includes significant tariffs—up to 60% on Chinese goods and 20% on other imports—to protect American jobs and address issues like fentanyl production and border security.

Experts warn these tariffs could increase consumer prices, with middle-income families potentially losing $2,500 annually.

Analysts caution Trump’s plans may face political hurdles in Congress despite his economic-focused campaign promises.

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Are we going to pretend he gives a shit? He doesn't. He got what he wanted, and he can't be elected again (barring him fucking our systems so severely that he manages to force a third term on us). He's going to wreck the justice system to avoid any consequences for his actions after his term, and he could very well kick the bucket while he's in office anyway (dude's got KFC gravy for blood).
He doesn't care. He no longer has to. He can play his country-destroying games with impunity. He has no reason to give a single fuck what the American people want.
- I don't think he cares as much about the tariffs, but I am quite sure tariffs on Mexico and Canada were Elonia's idea
  
  I mean he enacted tarrifs on Canada and Mexico in his first term so it's not like it's not something he's been thinking about.
- Oh it's deeper than that, it's money coming out of our pockets slipping through a third party and going back into the government offers. It's an extra tax on goods by proxy. He then has a fresh revenue stream without any earmarks on it.
- 156,302,318 voters voted out of 244,666,890 eligible. 77,266,856 people voted for tRump. That's 167,400,034 eligible voters who did not vote for tRump. So yeah...that tracks.
  
  And nobody gives one flying fuck about anyone who can't be bothered to vote. If your to lazy to get off your ass and vote you have absolutely no right to complain about anything cause politically you don't matter and you get what your lazy ass asked for.
  
  That's shocking
  
  Non-voters don't matter as far as the political system we're discussing is concerned so why do we spend so much time talking about them? How many of them there are and the reasons they don't vote are both entirely irrelevant.
- and he can't be elected again (barring him fucking our systems so severely that he manages to force a third term on us).
  That's easy, create a national crisis (massive inflation + riots) and have SCOTUS suspend the 22nd amendment

74% of Americans believe Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs will worsen inflation
How about not voting the guy in then?
- I was told the election was about the economy.
  
  I was repeatedly told on Lemmy that it was about genocide.
  
  As often as people beat that drum, it's nothing but an excuse for most. They don't have any actual thoughts or opinions on the economy. Just voting on vibes.
  
  It was. Ruining it, that is.
  Surprise!
- They voted because of "woke" and immigrants. A guy on social media told them those are the real problems we face.
  I can't believe how little we are acknowledging that social media is currently being used to manipulate voters not just in US but also in Europe. Why people think that what happened in Romania didn't also happen in US? And is not happening in other European countries?
- half of the respondents don't care, because it hurts minorities and immigrants more.
- If the voting public were not handcuffed to the two party system by First-past-the-post voting, perhaps they would have chosen someone else.

poll reveals that 74% of Americans believe Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs will worsen inflation,
Where the fuck were those people in November??
- Naval gazing, believing what they were told?
- Voting for the leopards they were certain would not eat their face.
- Not voting. If we combine harris and non voters we get a similar number to the poll. Of course that's a major simplification, but it still has something.
- I wonder if a follow up question is in order. Like do they also expect to make even more money than prices will go up.
  That's the only vaguely plausible answer I can think of. Say hypothetically they think prices will go up 20%, but they somehow think they will be getting 40% more so it's fine and the price increase only serves to further dissuade immigrants or something.
  
  If they actually think the retail price of stuff basically doubling won't cause people to buy a lot less, they're nuts.
- They were told to be angry at trans kids in sports competitions, so their two braincells were busy.

The only poll that mattered was on November 5, 2024.

American Voters soon to get bad news that Trump does not give a fuck about them.

Perhaps they should have thought about that before voting for a lunatic.
- It's almost like they think if those people have less happiness then they will have more. It's the same nonsense that underlies trickle down economics, a childlike belief that things won't be held onto by the ruling class with a vice-like grip.

I don't think he's planning on worrying about polls ever again.
- Doesn't he at least have concepts of a plan for that?
  
  Not one you’d like…

We can all agree that polling is completely meaningless now yeah? It obviously has zero correlation with reality.
- It was an election season where the race was polling around 50/50 pretty much throughout. Even when one candidate had a lead, with margins of error, no they didn't. A ~50% probability of losing is huge, even if many polls did show her slightly ahead. Consider a 20-sided die. 9 sides are red, 11 are blue. You wouldn't be surprised if you rolled red.
  News media has no idea how to talk about polls because they don't want to talk about probability, they want to talk about which number is bigger as if it's a scoreboard. I didn't want him to win, but the polls weren't wrong.
  
  Good explanation
- Why? The polls showed Trump winning and he won, if anything they got more accurate.
  
  Even if they didnt show him winning, a poll saying its roughly 50/50 is like saying to someone your going to flip a coin and then them being flabbergasted when it comes out tails, what did you expect, its probability, not the current vote percentage.

Too bad the poll that matters already happened.

Oh no, in light of this maybe he won't be elected anymore
Oh wait

Has he ever given a flying fuck. He's a complete moron.

It's almost like maybe we shouldn't have elected the guy.
- Seriously…. If 74% think his economic plan is bad, and yet a majority said that ‘the economy’ was the biggest reason for who they chose…. How?
  
  They just said "the economy" because they don't want to admit it's racism
  
  By economy they just mean the price of things that they regularly buy or the cost of a meal at the Red Lobster. They don't want their taxes to increase and by taxes they just mean income tax.
  The best way I can put it is that these aren't serious people. They have very little understanding of how the systems that keep them alive actually work. Look at taxes and the messaging from conservative's "they are stealing your money." That's super easy for someone to understand. Much harder to understand that taxes pay for public services, roads, and clean water.
  I've got in-laws that stuck their aging parents in public subsidized retirement housing. These guys also vote republican. Lucky for them they live in a blue state with decent retirement care otherwise there is no way they could afford that level of care. We are talking thousands a week for over a decade. Do they have any understanding of how that works? No, not at all they just want to complain about taxes being high.
  
  If I learnt anything recently, "polls" quotes on Lemmy and reddit mean jackshit.

"Get out and vote! Just this time. You won't have to do it anymore! Four more years, you know what? It'll be fixed, it'll be fine, you won't have to vote anymore." - Donald Trump, July 26th 2024
He meant it when he said that. He doesn't give a single shit what polling says about his plans. Americans already gave him what he wanted and thus no longer serve a purpose to him. He's going to get his tariffs no matter how much it fucks over the useful idiots that voted for this fascist dictatorship and there's nothing you can do about it. Because that's just what happens in a fascist dictatorship, so you're going to have to start getting used to it.
- I believe he will aggravate people enough to riot, declare martial law, stay in power indefinitely a la some of these other clowns running some of these other countries into the ground.

Let him do this tariff thing. Maybe people will finally learn how "good" he and his party is with money when the US economy is completely ruined.
- Republicans have been tanking the economy my entire life. Their voters do not learn
  
  Looking at what Trump is planning, you have seen nothing yet.
- I understand the appeal of "teaching them a lesson", purely for spiteful reasons. But there are problems with that approach:
  You can teach a child never to put his hand on the burner by putting his hand on the burner. He'll learn alright, but he'll also have a nasty burn. Similarly, you don't want people to learn the dangers of populism and extreme right by letting the extreme-right populist do stupid shit and wreck their lives.
  We who didn't vote for the dangerous populist live in the same country as those who did: even if we wanted to let the dangerous populist hurt them to teach them a lesson, he'll hurt us too in the process.
  History always repeat itself: even if everybody learns a hard lesson after Trump is done wrecking the economy - or worse - our children, or our children's children will invariably elect another Trump some day. So we might as well do our best to limit the damage each time.
  
  It is not spiteful. I'm looking at this from the outside (as far as anyone can be with a world-dominating economy like the US), and I've given up any hope that Americans as such would learn without really, really painful lessons that manage to pass even through the thick skulls of the MAGA-heads. I don't wish anyone to suffer, but at the moment I cannot see any way for this lesson to set in without it.
  That innocent people are hurt is horrible. But as only a smaller number of citizens have voted for the smart alternative, those who didn't vote and those who voted for Trump together are the majority. It could have been prevented if enough people had gotten their asses out of their houses - but that did not happen. And the death wish for the US was strong - Hitler only had about 33% of the votes and had to resort to political tricks to get where Trump was carried to by a majority of the voters. Think about that.
  And yes, history repeats itself. You were extremely lucky to skip a few cycles - in comparison to e.g. Europe - but the signs were there for a long time, and way to few people cared. Maybe we all get lucky and it "just" turns into a 1929+ depression, focused primarily on the US.
  
  Your second point only applies to people who voted against him. If you didn't vote you voted for him.
- Probably not, they'll still find a way to put the blame on others.
  
  I mean, people are still fueling the flames now for not voting Democrat because AOC is being shafted by the establishment, ignoring the bigger picture. When the GQP proves to be far, far worse, they will still be spouting something akin that both sides are the same. Part of it has to do because propaganda campaigns plays both sides and this is the way the side that could vote Democrat is played nowadays.

He has absolutely no reason to care now

Polls don't mean shit. The only polls Americans should've given more of a fuck about, were the election ones!
Too fucking late.

It won't. His Congressional majority is completely servile, and none of them care what the American people think. Their only focus is on looting and sabotage.

How's this news? That's literally what MAGA was selling the entire time. The so called "Temporary Hardships". They promised and they're going to deliver some economic hardships, that was the sales pitch and people voted for it. Anybody shocked is just not paying attention.
- Hardships for OTHER people. You know who I mean.

Crazy?! If only someone had said something!!!

Bad news? It's only bad news if he gives as shit, and clearly he does not.

Can't wait for worker shortages to cause supply line issues. I really hope the US feels this one.
So ashamed to be an American right now, but yet I might not be one starting January. So eh.
Eat dicks fuckers.

This country deserves the absolute worst. Burn it all down.
- Yep. Fuck everyone that bothered to vote against the fascists. Fuck everyone in a blue spot in red states that voted against the other idiots around them.
  Or - maybe we realize that people should actually bother to vote even if they have to vote for a candidate that doesn't align 100% with their values.
  
  Even if Harris won, that wouldn't have changed anything materially with the country. There's a deep rot in the country, and it's just getting worse regardless of who's winning elections.
- I agree. Let's just hit the giant reset button, it won't be fun, in fact it'll be quite the opposite, but our current trajectory is no good and unsustainable anyway.

TLDR: this news paper found that less than 150 Americans out of the only 200 that were asked in a non-specified state think his tariffs will worsen inflation. This is bad news for Trump because he cares about what those 150 people think for some reason

At this point anyone still writing articles with the unstated premise that Americans are paying enough attention and in possession of enough information to have their voting choices influenced by actual policy proposals and their real-world effects should be stuffed into sacks and hit with sticks.

He said he was gonna.
"But, we didn't think . . . "
He SAID he was gonna.
"We really didn't expect "
HE F*CKING SAID HE WAS GONNA!

He’ll probably only care when he actually crashes the economy and everyone turns on him. It’s only a matter of time. I give it 1.5 years from Inauguration Day.

Dumbasses asked for this.

Another facet of Trump's America: A million news stories about polls showing the majority of Americans hate Trumpian policies, officials, candidates, etc.
And none of them will matter. First, because these are polls and not elections. And second, because simple majorities alone are not sufficient to influence policy in America anymore.
- Also, who are they out here polling? I've never been polled about shit. I got a lot of opinions for these mfers but somehow they never come around asking me about it. About anything.

It will be chaos, at our expense (of course) and the American people will learn nothing.

"could" increase consumer prices? Really? Still not sure whether they will actually increase, if tarriffs are implemented?

What American jobs is he protecting? We DON’T HAVE ANY manufacturing in the US to speak of anymore. At best we assemble stuff here that is made for n China. Except for car companies, what true industry is left?
- The American car manufacturers moved their production to Mexico, meaning they'll rise the prices on them due to the tariffs. And from what I read somewhere (and I can be completely wrong), the only car manufacturer that produces the car in America is one of the Japanese ones (~~Hyundao~~, Toyota etc). Still funny to think that "Japanese" cars are made in America, and "American" cars are made in Mexico 😂
  Edit: i got no clue about cars
  
  Tesla has two factories in the US.
  
  Hyundai is Korean.
  
  NAFTA. Or "the great big sucking sound" spoken of by H Ross Perot, the rich guy that owned EDS.

"Gets"

Fun fact: it doesn't matter.
- Corollary: I don't care about the results when dumb people are polled.

And how much of that will find its way into his personal funds? So many big donations from big companies already - he's going to milk this for all the money he can.

“Hurr Durr”, replied Trump
Wharton shakes it head in shame.

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