3mo ago

Love it when games do this :D/srs

(sorry if this seems parodical, it is indeed serious, i don't wanna come off troll-y, my sense of humor is rlly weird)/srs

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I'm still nostalgic for the Saints Row 2 character creator because it was one of the only ones with a gender slider. If there's just two (or even four, see BG3) body types, they're usually still ultra-male and ultra-female in my view. The development of ever more realistic graphics has only served to cement this, I feel.
- Saints Row 2 was amazing, the gender slider, that you could pick any voice, wear all clothing, have any hair style/makeup, no gender restrictions, could change gender presentation at any point through plastic surgery, pronouns were simply The Boss.
  I really have to wonder if there’s was a trans or NB person involved in the decision process, even if it was an egg going “haha would this be funny right? To give the players full gender options lol”
  
  Also, nobody batted a fucking eye. Everybody just played the damn game and had a good time. We've really slid far and quickly as a society.

annoying when they're then tied to pronouns and voice options though, like with elden ring. the most annoyed i've been at gender nonsense in games for a while is i checked out Dredge, the fishing game (it's mid) and you can only play as a man despite there being no player model or anything!!!!!
- Fire Emblem does this too. All they did was change the word "Gender" to "Form", but it still changes the pronouns, voice acting, and whether or not you can have a romantic relationship with certain people (not that everyone should be bi, but there's not a lot of same-sex options).
- I'm going to have to disagree just slightly about Dredge, because it's not a, I dunno exactly what I want to say here, I'll go with self-insert RPG. Like, the player character in Dredge is a character with a backstory and pre-existing relations with the world around him. I guess I wonder if you're annoyed by a game like Dave the Diver because you have to play as Dave or Doom because you have to play as Doomguy or BioShock because you have to play as, uh, whatever that guy's name is, or (for an example with a female protagonist) Control because you have to play as Jesse Faden.
  
  fair enough in that case, tbh i didn't play enough to realise that because i didn't like the game for other reasons, i think it's boring. no i'm not annoyed by those games lol i just had the wrong impression about dredge i guess. like i said that was far from the main thing that put me off so i won't be revisiting it anyway
- Cyberpunk 2077 also had your pronouns tied to your voice option, like excuse me?
  
  BG3 has really set the new standard. my only criticism of their char creator is it's quite difficult to make a character who isn't conventionally attractive.
  
  I agree this is annoying, but tbh I was also pretty thrilled about the body selection options in that game compared to most I’ve played.

My favorite game to do this is Lunacid. You choose pronouns at the start, including ones like xi/xir and everyone just refers to you by name anyway. Your character's gender is whatever you want and it doesn't impact anything. Apparently the pronouns were put in last second just to dissuade weirdo chuds from playing it lol.
It's also a lovely game made by a cool dev!

:waow-based:, more games need to do this already.

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