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blibla @slrpnk.net

3mo ago

yeah

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If you're on the winning side, yeah they do
- Most wars aren't "won" anymore.
  
  Who loses least?
  
  Well, I guess we'll have to build more weapons... you've twisted my arm.
- Not really. Even from an almost sociopathic perspective, the economic loss of sending a chunk of your population off to war instead of doing something more productive at home can kill the whole calculus. Sun Tzu had a whole bit on how expensive it is just to march an army around, as if he were trying to get nobels to understand that maybe you just fucking shouldn't.
  
  He was, that's what half of the aphorisms are saying.
  "Don't just do things think, please, I'm begging you."
- No, if you're profiting off both sides.. You Win!
- But those chickens come a roostin'

Jeff Bezos owns the washington post.
Just a reminder that all these billionaire fucks are fascists
and none of them are on your side.

They do say there is lots of tech and medical improvements because of war but I see it as oh now we HAVE to spend money on these thing while before it was just optional.
- It's not strange that these advancements happen only during war. During war the government and the rich finally need living human bodies to throw at eachother so they invest in us, and are willing to take risks on those of us with good ideas. If we take control of our money and our government we could do that ALL THE TIME.
  Damn greedy dragons hoarding their bullshit "wealth"
  
  If we take control of our money and our government we could do that ALL THE TIME.
  Well put.

I am so glad I canceled my WaPo subscription
Edit: The article is 10 years old...

War is peace?

War is peace
- There is no war in Washington DC

Read the article by the way
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-the-long-run-wars-make-us-safer-and-richer/2014/04/25/a4207660-c965-11e3-a75e-463587891b57_story.html
TL;Dr
'war is hell' and 'war is brutal' but it has brought about larger societies in which technology and the rule of law have dramatically reduced the amount of violence the average person suffers (he compares the stone age to modern times)
- it has brought about larger societies in which technology and the rule of law have dramatically reduced the amount of violence the average person suffers (he compares the stone age to modern times)
  lmao. Who believes this pseudo-scientific nonsense?
  Ofc the author is a (british) classics professor. Unqualified and steeped in white supremacy. I almost barfed at the apparently serious reference to Hobbes. Just another jordan perterson style grifter...
  
  You have to be actively braindead or bigoted to genuinely believe in hobbsian ideas.
- Here's an archive link so nobody has to give this article clicks.
  https://web.archive.org/web/20220221015217/https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-the-long-run-wars-make-us-safer-and-richer/2014/04/25/a4207660-c965-11e3-a75e-463587891b57_story.html
- This entire theory begs the question of why we couldn't unite peacefully?
  
  Because most of human history looked something like mad max and all the "peace first" guys were the first to die nasty deaths

Divisive opinion pieces can be good for taking discussion on new tracks or bringing up good points. Sometimes they're basically print version of flame bait which is entertaining.
- This "divisive opinion" piece is preparing America to enter its actual Empire phase and begin a new wave of colonialism.
  
  You sure put a lot more weight on some random opinion piece than I do
  E: Also this was written in 2014... It occurred at the same time as they published (and probably wanted to promote) a book with the same idea.
  
  The article considers that has already happened

Well, it's plausible if you take 'us' to mean the corporate ruling class

Corpo rats are a scourge thinking we should sell human lives for dollars

Ok, this is 10 years old. I wonder what their opinion would be nowadays. My opinion is they're full of shit and they were back then. But today they're even... fuller.

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