Mastery of HTML

I don't know why she's nervous, she clearly knew the spec well and didn't have to resort to modern abstraction frameworks to serve a simple static site.
- And she did it all in notepad
- yeah, but if you don't use wordpress to serve 3 static webpages, how will you get repeated business when it doesn't get hacked in 3 years?
  
  You obviously include a busy loop in JavaScript that takes exponentially more time each year. Then every few years you change the base year
  
  https://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
- The absolute horseshit that things like Facebook consist of make me wonder if half the people who work on it have even made an HTML page from scratch.
  
  Usually, no.
  
  Some of the pieces of information on posts is drawn with the canvas element.
- Yeah totally
- It's better than most of my sites.
- It's overkill for static sites, but credit should be given to JSX for being a decent way to create DOM nodes dynamicly. You can use a JSX transformer without using React, too.
  
  Or hear me out, nobody should give random credit to any framework for no reason whatsoever

The old internet was a wonderful place for learning.
And pain Olympics, but my rose coloured glasses are blocking that out right now.
- The old internet is still there !internetisbeautiful@lemm.ee
  
  Thank you.
  (Also happy thanksgiving!)
- Don't apologize. That pain is exactly why millennials are so much more tech literate than boomers and gen Alpha.
  
  don’t click that link! It could be a shitty song on Youtube
  Zoomers
  don’t click that link, if you’re lucky it’s just gay porn and we don’t have to format the drives
  Millennials
  
  The pain Olympics made millennials tech literate?
- Wow I was thinking about that just the other day (I remember it as "BME pain olympics"). I wonder if it's still floating around out there? But TBH I don't want to know.
  
  Yeah, it was Body Modification Enthusiasts or something?
  I heard years ago it was all faked. Who knows? The trauma is real.
- I mean there is always goatse. I showed my co-worker the original image since they didn’t know why there are memes about it now a day.
  Eye bleach was used that day.

<marquee>cool cool cool</marquee>
- <blink>
  welcome to my homepage
  </blink>
  
  <img>under_construction.gif</img> <embed SRC="linkinpark_numb.midi" hidden=true autostart=true loop=1>
  That's the extent I remember from grade school, had to make a homepage in like grade 5 and literally everyone had flaming text, crappy gifs, and horrible midi songs. Computer lab must have been a blast for the teachers.
- ee>cool cool cool</marquee><marqu
  
  l cool cool</marquee><marquee>coo
- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21233033/how-can-i-create-a-marquee-effect
  CSS3 and HTML. Not quite as simple as an easy tag, but you can party like it is 1999.

Literally why I started HTML and then into programming. Had to do those sick absolute position overlays on the club pages of Neopets.
- Myspace also got a number of people playing with HTML and CSS if I remember correctly. It's been years. Not sure CSS is actually even used anymore. I enjoyed web design classes back in the 2000s. Macromedia still owned Dreamweaver and it wasn't all that great, so I could still do better by hand. I haven't played around with any of it in years now, but I assume those programs have GUIs that blow away anything that can be written in notepad like back then.
  If you've never trouble shot 100 pages of JavaScript in notepad because you didn't have access to other tools, you haven't had "fun" before. ...fucking nightmare. Find out you put an extra space somewhere.
  The better you got though you'd narrow down finding those errors quickly, and then eventually find out a fucking free program will color code the shit and tell you to look at line 232 because it doesn't make sense
  
  You just gave me horrible flashbacks of Dreamweaver.
  
  CSS is still used. Modern web toolkits like bootstrap and tailwind can reduce or eliminate the need to write CSS explicitly. Some tools like Sass extend CSS. They all generally produce regular CSS that gets read by the browser.

Okay but that is adorable and true XD
The old internet taught us so many random skills. I couldn't type on a keyboard for jack until I got into MMO's back in the day, because it was pre voice comms. So I learned to type faster so I would struggle less XD
- I learnt HTML and JS by viewing the source code of major sites like Yahoo (this was in the early 2000s so CSS wasn't extremely widespread yet). That's practically impossible these days due to how much bulkier sites have gotten. Back then, HTML and JS were simple, unminified, and easy to understand.
  
  Super good point!
  Now you can't even read a blog's html to understand what it is doing, as it's being hosted by a website builder doing 2 billion weird things most likely.
- IRC and ICQ chat rooms here. Then MMOs after. I don't type correctly(as in, finger positions etc), but I do type quickly.
  
  UGH you're just like my sister then! See I played runescape after taking a typing class in elementary school, so in class I got like 5 wpm, then over a summer of doing nothing but playing rune scape whenever I was able (usually by staying up late after everyone went to sleep) I got up to 25, and it just kept getting faster over the years as I kept playing other online game.
  My older sisters didn't have typing classes before they started doing IM chat rooms and stuff though. So my sister somehow types at 90 WPM by doing this cursed 2 finger chicken peck thing. She types way faster than me by just using 2 fingers on each hand and it always confuses the heck outta me.
- MMOs are the reasons that my typing style involves my left hand covering 60-70% of the keyboard and my right hand getting the remaining 30-40% that I can't easily reach.
  Only need to bring in the mouse hand of absolutely necessary!

I coded HTML for the first time in 2002. So I have 22 years experience. Anyone want to see my ASCII art?
- Anyone want to see my ASCII art?
  Yes
  
  Here is an old archive that never got updated after I got my own domain. https://asciipr0n.com/fp/

My Angelfire page is still up. I check on it every few years.
- <blink>
  love it!
  </blink>
  
  <marque>
  Hello! Welcome to my page!
  </marque>
- So is mine!
- The day Yahoo killed geocities was the day my innocence died.
  
  you can still visit geocities on archive.org.
- Can I haz the link :3
  
  Secret stuff otherwise it be easy to dox Maybe I should login and remove that stuff. Didn't know any better back then.
- I wish I still had my custom HTML from my MySpace page
  
  Check archive.org

For those interested Neocities is a modern equivalent. The homepage has some featured pages linked you can browse if you are looking to kill time.

Is she sweating because she's insecure about her knowledge, or is she sweating because she fears a followup question into WHAT she did?
- She’s sweating because she has a disorder that makes her sweat at random moments. Everyone always reads too much into it.
  
  hyperhidrosis
- I'm an open book when it comes to stuff like that. I'd 100% tell a prospective employer that an old goofy anime website was what kicked off my web dev career.
  
  I'm not gonna show my boss my fan fiction.

I feel personally attacked

Yeah, that's how HTML is learnt. Never had to look back at HTML afterwards

Poor girl lost all her teeth. ☹️ F
- DENTAL PLAN

Got my first computer in 92 so I have 35 years of experience.
I played a shitty port of Street fighter 2 on it an Lucas arts adventures
When can I start, work is a joke to me and I can figure anything out quickly.
- When can I start, work is a joke to me and I can figure anything out quickly.
  Lol. As a hiring manager, I've hired people who am said almost exactly this, as long as they had a public project portfolio that provided evidence to back up the claim.
- you scared me for a second got me thinking I should be 40
  it's ok everyone, crisis averted, I'm still in my 30s, parent's math just sucks
  
  Next year or so 😉

Html it self hasn't really changed much.

Master of all 22 elements

Parts of my old AngelFire website is still archived. A horrible mess of Comic Sans, black backgrounds with lime green and dark red or purple text, animated gifs, auto-playing sounds, frames and pretty much any and all features of HTML, especially things you never really saw being used like blinking and color changing text that wasn't just an image.
Too bad none of the Klik'n'Play games I made and had uploaded there are able to be downloaded... I kinda want to be reminded exactly what the Pikachu virtual pet I made was like in all it's cringe glory. Though Nintendo would probably be sending an army of lawyers up my ass rn if it was.
- My site was on a local dialup provider when I was roughly 12. It had all lava as the background with flame gifs everywhere. Brief bio, cheats for MechWarrior, Doom, etc on different pages. I did fuck with frames.
  A journalist emailed me about profiling young web developers and I was so fucking nerdy and anxious I never responded.
  Oh shit how could I forget different midis for each page. Nirvana and Black Sabbath mostly.
- Oh God I am sure my websites are gone. I hope so
- If your site didn't have marquis text then it wasn't worth visiting.

From Lisa Explains it All to becoming a computer science professor I feel this in my bones.

No shame in being self taught.
- There should be pride in being self taught. Although it's hard to do it ~~hard~~ right (as in: do your own research).

Worms 2 but yes this is absolutely on point. I think my host was angelfire? I taught myself frames and thought I was so cool!

My earliest experiences of computer networking were due to wanting to host multiplayer gaming sessions with friends. Things did not "just work" back then.
- Even when you were just plugging in ethernet cables there was always some bullshit going on Q_Q

I still have a geocities page, can't login to it, but it's still up.

Neopets, GaiaOnline, MySpace, to name the biggest three
- Gaia online is a serious nostalgia trip wow

blink tag for life, motherfuckers.

I learned everything I know from CSShelp the Kougra. It's a shame that her page has since been replaced with the species default. It was such a great resource.

110% legit. its just that simple.

Reminds me of the time I was using Microsoft frontPage. now CSS and js frameworks have become a science of its own that reinvents itself every two years.

The logo! It's on fire!

and geocities and myspace

very cute
my tech background has always been the coal mines of doing coding problems

My website-making days also were my graphic-design-school days, so while they could be a little on the weird side I at least tried to make them clean, readable, and aesthetically non-hazardous. Well, apart from that one wonder that wouldn’t look right on Netscape.
It was great to be able to do this entirely by hand and still end up with something no worse than professional sites in appearance. (And there weren’t yet a bazillion laws and regulations in my country making it too complicated for an undermotivated single private individual to attempt to stay compliant)

That was 18 years ago?
- I remember when forms were added. I think it was more than 18 years ago though. There were still WWW conventions at the time.
  
  There were still WWW conventions at the time.
  That didn’t help me feel younger

Scrolly words of yore