7mo ago

A Third Woman Died Under Texas’ Abortion Ban. Doctors Are Avoiding D&Cs and Reaching for Riskier Miscarriage Treatments.

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7mo ago

A third woman died under Texas’ abortion ban. Doctors are avoiding D&Cs and reaching for riskier miscarriage treatments.

www.propublica.org /article/porsha-ngumezi-miscarriage-death-texas-abortion-ban

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7mo ago

just three women have died and 50783 babies have been saved by Texas' abortion law. A damn good trade if you ask me.

www.propublica.org /article/porsha-ngumezi-miscarriage-death-texas-abortion-ban

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7mo ago

A Third Woman Died Under Texas’ Abortion Ban. Doctors Are Avoiding D&Cs and Reaching for Riskier Miscarriage Treatments.

www.propublica.org /article/porsha-ngumezi-miscarriage-death-texas-abortion-ban

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what a pathetic world we live in. willingly letting people die because of an ideological belief.
- Not even real ideology, the people putting this shit front and center are doing so purely to manipulate voters and give absolutely zero fucks about the actual morality of any of these policies. As should be obvious by the adulterers, rapists, crooks, liars, and bigots that tout "Christian values" in everything other than their personal choices.
  
  Pretty much any of those people would just pay to have their mistress get an abortion in another state or from an underground doctor for the elite. They don't want to pay child support.
- Okay, so for what reason do you think we should let people die??
  /s
  
  Refusing to reduce their risk by getting a safe and effective vaccine.
She was black though so its actually a win in the eyes of MAGA voters
- Probably, there's a lot of Nazis in MAGA after all. However, they still don't give two shits when it's a white woman either, at least until it affects them personally.
  https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/01/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala/
  Fails and Crain believed abortion was morally wrong. The teen could only support it in the context of rape or life-threatening illness, she used to tell her mother. They didn’t care whether the government banned it, just how their Christian faith guided their own actions.
  ...
  But when her daughter got sick, Fails expected that doctors had an obligation to do everything in their power to stave off a potentially deadly emergency, even if that meant losing Lillian. In her view, they were more concerned with checking the fetal heartbeat than attending to Crain.
  This very much so is the most tragic of leopards eating faces.
I'm waiting for the first wave of medical professionals who stand up and say "no" to harmful laws. It needs to happen. we need people to refuse unjust law without the lawsuit song and dance. Simply say NO! and help people anyways.
- While I agree with the sentiment these doctors would risk going to jail and ruin their life and also possibly their license. I totally agree that would be great to see them do it but I'm afraid that's not how the world works. Maybe a very few of them will do so. This whole situation is fucked up and you can thank the republicans for taking the US back 50 years.
- You're not going to get people to do that without some sort of protection for them and their families. If you're a Dr. that can save hundreds, or be locked up because you saved 1 person, it's a tough case for being the fall person.
  Now if they could get a union walkout nationwide (or at least statewide), then they have leverage.
- They're not going to do that when the penalties are so severe, no one is going to risk their freedom for this. They are however doing something about it: leaving the state.
  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-abortion-ob-gyn-doctor-training-60-minutes/
  And I don't blame them one bit with Republicans' draconian, theocratic bullshit and unfortunately the impact Texans will get.
- In addition to what everyone else has said so far, even if some doctors are doing this, they are probably keeping quiet about it. You and I outside of Texas will never know if anyone is violating this law until someone sues. My guess is that 3 deaths in 2 years is either vastly under reported, or there are doctors who are toeing the line of this law more closely than others.
  
  We really don’t know how many have died because Georgia and Texas did away with the mortality boards because of bad PR
  https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/21/health/georgia-maternal-mortality-committee-propublica/index.html
- They will arrest the doctors though, or kill them when an acorn falls near a jackboot
- Hate to burst your bubble but plenty of doctors are out there that still believe this shit. I hate that I've seen it first hand, but they exist and they are far greater in number than you would like to know.
How can someone even think of something like this law? The results are just sad. This ban needs to be tossed.
- Considering who we just voted into office, it's more likely these bans will spread nationwide. To say nothing of banning birth control and plan-b.
  This is going to get so much worse.
  
  I'm not an american, so I can only really watch you from afar. But I seriously hope that it doesn't come to that for the US.
- They think fetuses are people. That's pretty much the extent of the thought they've invested in the matter. They don't give a shit about the mother's right to safety and body autonomy.
  
  I honestly have to ask, is that the serious reasoning behind something like this? Cause it's lacking very much.
Gilead is wonderful, isn't it?
/s
- I kept on getting magasplained by a particular set of idiots about how there was no such thing as Gilead states in America, though? What happened? Almost this exact same set of idiots kept telling me that liberals were "overreacting" about Roe and women's rights, prior to 2022.
So at what point do you mortgage the house to get a helicopter and fly them out of state?
- In Texas the pilot and whomever paid for it would be guilty of a crime
  
  And probably turned in by their neighbor for the cash bounty.
I read earlier that she was the fifth. Unless I am misremembering. Does anybody know?
- It's likely more than 3 but it can be hard to link some deaths to the law.
Can't they just pull their Texan guns on doctors like they did over abortions? For my partner's life?
Parent murderers
Those medical professionals should lose their license and go to prison, this is manslaughter.
- Well that's certainly a take...
- The governor and anyone who voted for it should be more like. The doctors will go to jail if they help.
  
  “Stigma and fear are there for D&Cs in a way that they are not for misoprostol,” said Dr. Alison Goulding, an OB-GYN in Houston. “Doctors assume that a D&C is not standard in Texas anymore, even in cases where it should be recommended. People are afraid: They see D&C as abortion and abortion as illegal.”
  These are cases where a D&C would still be legal under the Texas law, but doctors are still not doing it because they're afraid to get sued by Ken Paxton. That's malpractice.
  I get that the law is ridiculous, immoral and badly written, but that still doesn't absolve you from your responsibility to preserving human life.
- This is the people on the train track's quandary, except helping the many keeps you practicing medicine and helping people. Helping the one person gets you locked up.
- I'm curious as to what you do for a living, and if any portion of the proper practice of that thing has been outlawed by the state. You must be some type of professional freedom fighter to be so self-assured in your righteousness.

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