That's easy to solve:
Are the workers in control of the means of production in China? Not as far as I know.
So, no: It's not.
The PRC is Socialist. The PRC's Public Sector covers a little over half of their overall economy, and the cooperative sector covers a little under a tenth. The Private Sector is under strict guidance of the government, in a birdcage model, where the CPC increases ownership as the markets themselves form monopolist syndicates that make themselves candidates for central planning. Further, the Public Sector is over key, heavy industried and infrastructure that drive the Private Sector, like the steel industry.
This is all in line with a Marxist understanding of Socialism, a Dictatorship of the Proletariat gradually wresting Capital from the hands of the Bourgeoisie as the Bourgeoisie must necessarily centralize Capital, making it much easier to centrally plan. Before these syndicates have formed, Markets are a more effective vector of growth in the Productive Forces, and as they stagnate Public Ownership and Central Planning becomes more efficient. From Engels:
Question 17 : Will it be possible to abolish private property at one stroke?
Answer : No, no more than the existing productive forces can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society. Hence, the proletarian revolution, which in all probability is approaching, will be able gradually to transform existing society and abolish private property only when the necessary means of production have been created in sufficient quantity.
I highly recommend you read the article What is Socialism? The PRC isn't Anarchist, but it is Socialist. You're also welcome to read my introductory Marxism reading list.
Yeah, I am deeply skeptical that maximum billionaires with no social services of any kind is the path to anything but lining Xi and his allies' pockets. Sorry. Not buying it no matter how many Chinese AI bots post 8000 word articles about how actually socialized healthcare is a capitalist scheme to hold back the proletariat from space future communism you can't understand without reading 700 of Marx's lesser letters to random parties in Bavaria.
What do you mean by the PRC "maximizing billionaires?" The PRC regularly cracks down on their bourgeosie, and the majority of the economy is in the Public Sector, not the Private. What do you mean by "no social services of any kind?" Large infrastructure projects like massive public transit, a much better and more comprehensive public healthcare system than the US, an elimination of extreme poverty in the last decade, the PRC is focusing on the working class. Xi himself is far less rich than most world leaders, can you explain how the PRC is built to "enrich him and his allies?
Further, I have no idea what you mean by "socialized healthcare is a Capitalist scheme to hold the proletariat back." Capitalist concessions do exist in Social Democracies, but they aren't holding the Proletariat back, Bourgeois control of the state is.
Are you trying to say that a Socialist country needs to have 100% of the economy fully socialized to be considered Socialist? What do you call a system transitioning from one system to the next?
Finally, are you trying to say that anyone who disagrees with you is a "Chinese AI bot?"
Nooo, those letters to the Sozialistischer Kegelklub, Straubing are vital! Without them you misunderstand Marxism!!! /s 😭😭😭
Hey OP, I do think that this kind of agitprop is counter-intuitive. Like we discussed earlier, when trying to persuade liberals to your side, it is useful to highlight uncontestable reality. Simply showing a bunch of different ideological groups disagreeing with the PRC being Socialist without doing the legwork to show how and why the PRC is indeed Socialist and just calling them reactionary for disagreeing fuels them, rather than refutes.
Just my 2 cents. Your meme is "correct," but requires a background in Marxism to appreciate, which is why it very easily backfires. Compared to how @yogthos@lemmy.ml posts, you can see the difference in effectiveness. I went and did all that legwork in replying to Prunebutt, so I don't think it was a wash or anything, but you can see just how easy it was for Prunebutt to flip your meme against Marxists.
China is lead by a communist party, aimed at transitioning their nation into the first phases of socialism by 2050, right?
In that sense, they are indeed socialist, though practically they're controlling their economy to go in that direction, so it does have captalism too, but that is not an issue as long as they are going well.
And they seem to be doing well on their goals of reducing poverty, pollution etc.
So yes, they are indeed socialist because their principles and aims are.
Though, I don't think many folk are against that too. Mainly folk who are bombarded by stereotypical definitions of the left and socialism.
Majority of GDP is now in state owned businesses
Most of this makes sense, except Pat Socs, who are they?
Patricia Socksenham, a very famous socialite
