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2023 Hungarian Grand Prix - [RACE] discussion thread

FORMULA 1 QATAR AIRWAYS HUNGARIAN GRAND PRIX 2023

Circuit stats
First Grand Prix	1986
Number of laps	70
Lap record	1:16.627 Lewis Hamilton (2020)
2022 winner	Max Verstappen

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Perez has won so many undeserved DOTD votes on the back of his shit qualifying performances.
- I think it should have gone to Lando. Being able to keep Checo behind like that in the last stint was impressive!
- Well its not DOTWeekend
- Max was probably coasting most of the race while Perez was pushing. He still finished over half a minute behind Max. That was not only a shit qualifying performance, but also a bad performance today.
- ahh yes, the weekly shifting of the perez expectation goalposts.
- That manoeuvre is basically called "doing a Perez" at this point.
- At least he makes it entertaining
  
  not on his own merit

Not bad from Ricciardo , out scoring Tsunoda after being hit by Zhou at the start
- And his last 40 or so laps were on the same set of medium tires!
- I agree, not too bad of a drive from him!Although both Alpines retiring certainly helped.
  
  For his overall finishing position, certainly, but his main objective will be to finish ahead of Tsunoda consistently.

Guys I think we should pitch in and hire a therapist for Charles
- 🥲

Foster kitten is transfixed. She loves F1
- I assume she's a Purrez fan?
  
  Or maybe Oscat Piastri
  
  Hopefully not a Purre Gasly fan 😹
- Kimi Meowkönen
- Time to foster fail, she's a keeper
  
  Goes to her furever home on Friday sadly. Been a fun 6 weeks with her
- Aww sweet

What a start by Piastri! He's so impressive for a rookie.
- Let's hope he'll start getting some recognition soon, I can't believe how few people are hyping him!
  
  I agree, I think more people will notice now that he's got a competitive car. He hasn't been that far off Lando all season

Well, that is one way of swapping Charles and Carlos.
- Crazy how firmly Ferrari have established themselves as the perpetual butt of the joke.

Underrated part of Max's driving is just how damn good he is at conserving tyres.
Consistently the last to pit on the same tyres.. (along with Alonso)
- He definitely deserves the "tire whisperer" monicker more than Checo.
  
  He got that moniker partly because Racing Point loved starting on hards and going long. Not to say he didn't execute well, but it was also a product of strategy.
- I was laughing when the podium cars were lined up. Max's tires were absolutely shredded, Checo's were fairly bad, Lando's had some light wear. Max makes it look easy to drive on tires that look like they were in a warzone.
  
  It is bits of rubber outside of trajectory. Drivers drive on them after crossing finish line. They stick to the tires and add some weight. It helps from DQ in some cases.

Lol 5s for causing 2 DNF +sending Ric down to last. WTF
- Penalties are absolutely random.
  
  Might as well just send it into the midfield, gain 10 places and take the 5s
- Yea I was sure he would get 10s at the very least but the 5s is almost worth it
- I reckon that's fair. Probably as bad as going of the track 3 times
  /s
- They really need to change the approach, they should consider the outcome of the driver's actions.
  
  Yeah ridiculous that taking 2 drivers out is as bad as running wide 3 times

Verstappen's utter dominance aside I like this season. It's very unpredictable from 2 to 16

And Gasly had a fantastic start too, that was such bad luck.
- They just said his seat broke in half when his car landed. That must have been a pretty painful incident too.
  
  That was Esteban iirc

Excited to see what the Alfa Romeos can do. The victory will easily go to Max though I think.
- Let's see how aggressive he and Lewis get on lap 1
  You have to think that Lewis has nothing to gain by settling for 2nd, and Max wouldn't let his own kid win a backyard race, so he's not conceding anything
  
  That’s a possibility indeed that something would happen at the start. But in a clean race,
  I can’t see Lewis or anyone else matching Max’s pace.

Let's go. Super exited about this race.
- Hyped! Looking out for
  If and how long Lewis can hold P1
  Both McClaren and Alfa Romeo keeping in the points at the end
  Perez battles and climbing up
  Ferrari strategy not working
  DANNY RICCCCC
  
  I'm just stoked there's two Aussies on the F1 grid, and they're both good, and, if the stars align, they both get points.
  Also the possibility of a bit of Hammy v Max battling again, even just a bit.
- Same here. It’s shaping up to be a good one.
  Inb4 max is 3s clear at the end of lap 1
  
  Inb4 max is 3s clear at the end of lap 1
  With Lando and Lewis retiring after a collision.
- Same, the return of danny ric... let's go motorracing!
- Come on Ricciardo!!

I’m a max fan, but a 33 second victory is insane
force him to start in p15
- It genuinely doesn't matter. We've already seen it. Remember Miami?

Mclaren is looking insane. That car is rapid and this isn’t where they thought they’d be good but they’re fucking nailing it. Same with their Pitstops. A few years ago we were clowning how bad their pit crews were, this is a far cry from that
- It's great to see how much of a jump they've made mid-season. They're where Aston Martin was at the start of the season, but with two competitive drivers.
  
  Piastri has impressed quite a bit. I was iffy on him before the season and even the beginning of the season. I’ve been proved wrong though. He’s keeping up where he needs to

RB is going to win the rest of this, aren’t they
That is such a crazy record to beat. And if what crofty is saying is Monza could wrap the constructors and Singapore could wrap the drivers.
- This season has been a write-off since Bahrain is we're being honest. Most people didn't want to be pessimistic but the expert analysts warned us even after testing already, and after a handful of races it was definitely clear.
  What I'm curious about is whether anyone else can win before 2026. I know it sounds negative but the cars are more reliable than ever and the driver quality of the grid is higher than ever, so the chances of random incidents taking out both RBs are lower than they've ever been. And Max himself has basically completely cut out mistakes from his driving.

Piastri is seriously impressive, seems like a veteran out there.

Really cannot fathom how/why Sainz is still behind Leclerc
- Just Ferrari things

Poor Oscar for losing 2nd with strategy. Hopefully they can both stay on the podium at least.

Hoping for big things from McLaren, Lando has great race pace the other top runners only have one car at the front so pit stop strategy should be in their hands
- He's in a really good position to get a run on Max at the start. Hopefully he can get ahead and keep Max behind a bit longer than Silverstone!

RIP Alpine

I feel like the grid is the wrong way around here and pole should have been on the inside.
Or Max is just that damn good.
- Before the race started, every driver/pundit said the inside is usually quite dirty and it statistically puts you at a distinct disadvantage down to turn one. This year's race start runs contrary to previous years where the pole sitter has comfortably held the lead.
- I think the reason is because the outside is the normal racing line, so the inside is typically dirty
- I feel like the grid is the wrong way around here and pole should have been on the inside
  Yup. Regardless of who one supports, it is a bad design IMHO.
  
  I feel like I remember Bottas talking about purposely trying to qualify 2nd here in 2021

Dude Alpine is so unlucky

So Sainz is his own strategist now hahaha

Tires per driver: https://feddit.nl/pictrs/image/78f54d65-f356-434d-b37f-d8b194362208.jpeg

Max just Blitzed everyone else. That was insane. Everyone else is the one 1:22/1:23’s and Max drops a 1:20.5
- The only way we're going to see competitive figths for the win the coming years is if Red Bull seriously fucks up the car. I'm not trying to be defeatist or anything and I'm in complete awe of his skill, but Max is actually just levels above.
  
  Max is one of those generational talents that is just going to be blisteringly fast in any kind of machinery, but when he’s given a good car he’s unstoppable.
  Mclaren has gotten closer, and if they stay on their current trajectory we might see something.
- And he'll probably pull enough of a gap he could pit, put on softs, and do a 1:19 if he wanted
  
  Well you aren’t wrong. 31 second gap at the end

Wake me up when something happens
- Wasn't that a Green Day song?
  
  When september ends

Ferrari please just one race without a fuckup.
- We would see Ferrari change its color to blue before that happens

That was certainly a race

Mclaren looking great
Mercedes poor performance in the heat again

wow Alpine having a rough month

It's a bit odd seeing all these medium compounds at the front. I think the new tire allocation will result in a lot more strategies

Does anyone think the Alfas will be able to maintain their qualifying pace in the race? Or will they be like Haas and drop back over time?
- My understanding is that their race pace looked quite good in the practices.

Have they told Charles about his penalty yet?

RIP Zhou, what a bummer

Did Max just casually do 1.20.5? What?

Perez looking decent now! He needs this after a bad quali.

McLaren confirming their good upgrades then

I just feel bad for LeClerc

Can Lewis get past the McLarens?
- It would take a safety car I think

Peak Ferrari, not swapping the cars.
- I was so confused. It didn’t make any sense to keep Sainz behind Leclerc at that moment. It was their obligatory fuckup, I think