You should post that to the Wikipedia community.
This is why it's important to remember that in any revolution, resistance, or targeted action, it's the police that are the first enemy. They'll be the ones that respond first, and will likely toe the line the most reliably.
2nd Amendment is usually a punchline, but it may become necessary
Why do you think your police has been militarized so hard over the past few decades ?
Tbh, it always has been.
The only problem is that we've been set up so that the people that are most likely to oppose the worst case scenario are the ones least likely to be both armed and willing to fight.
Just wait, though. If things slide the way they could, it won't be long before the party policy shifts against armed citizens.
NY transit starts getting complaints about an ad they have no idea about.
"No, m'mam, we don't have a death penalty policy.....no......no m'man, I don't know what poster you saw....."
"but yes m'aam we did shoot and kill 4 human beings for cheating us out of the 2.90 fare"
Fortunately none of them died as far as I can find. Surgeons had to crack open the skull of the bystander they shot in the back of the head to relieve his brain swelling though. I hope he recovers because he's gonna be set for life.
They spent 150 million on overtime for cops to stop fare evasion. How much were they losing in fares? I'm gonna go ahead and guess it wasn't even a teeny fraction of that.
The statement they did put out about the poster was basically
"The shooting was not over skipping fare. But everytime someone skips fair we loss money and people are in danger"
so is this ad meant to push people to pay the fare or to start a revolution?
It's saying the quite part out loud about the normalized police state we live in.
When shouting DefundThePolice/PoliceReform is seen as offensive, this is how you convince the people.
I'd say a bit of both. The numbers they showed for it if I remember was that they spent $150m to catch like $100,000 of fares that were skipped. Then throw in 4 people dead and you didn't do much to help. You just made it more miserable for people travelling.
With fares making up 23% of your income, and payroll taking up over 30% of expenses... Odds are they could cut the number of guards patrolling tolls, ticket sales people, customer service reps, etc by a shit ton and make the transportation free, and offset the costs elsewhere. It would also likely boost the economy of the area, do to people not needing to scrap together a couple dollars to take the train and spending it at businesses they otherwise may normally avoid do to costs or not having that extra few dollars.
In Ontario, asshole political leader Doug Ford is trying to stop free public transit by paying for transit cops out of the provincial budget. That way no one can make the payment you just made. Can we have the same amount of money to spend on improving public transit? No. The only thing fearless leader Doug Ford fears more than free public transit is good public transit.
What a bag of dicks. Watch other conservative states and provinces follow his lead!
Well, I’ll give you an update here as I have boots on the ground:
They cut back on the amount of cops on the platforms now—but now every single exit door has a private guard (one of those rent a cop companies). So now they’re bringing privatized security into the mix. But there are still cops on the platforms! Just not as many at the door because they’ve hired some security guards to have the same effect an MTA person has, which means they can’t really do shit if you don’t let them stop you.
So a slightly different way to waste money.
At this point it would be better usage of money to make it a surveillance state instead of a police state, cameras won’t shoot you
It's also a surveillance state at this point.
That's what I think when I see deadly high speed chases occuring, like unless the person is imminently trying to harm others could they maybe just wait for him to drive home and then make an arrest?
...yet
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The fare enforcement was of course a huge overreach and waste of resources, spending something absurd like 1000x what it recovered. The cops didn't shoot people over a fare, they shot because someone pulled a knife on them, after trying to use a Taser which failed. Not really sure what else people expect will result if someone pulls a knife on someone with a gun, cop or not.
No lie the dude in the reflection looks like my NYPD cousin.
Damn that’s crazy. No mention of the guy rushing police with a knife when confronted and told to pay, screaming “shoot me shoot me shoot me”.
alleged knife that magically disappeared
Seems you didn’t follow this story after the initial outrage.
I always laugh at the people who pay for fares for public transportation. It's an honor system. You just get on and don't pay. No one ever says anything. And those police officers who are supposed to check never say anything.
If it's a honor system that you don't obey, are we to conclude you are without honor? ^^
I pay for public tranposrtation because I like my bus drivers. should I have to? no, it should be 100% publicly funded. but it's not, so I do.
Depends where you are. In Phoenix I've seen people get cited and escorted off the train. They're real cops, if you refuse to identify, they can arrest.
And those police officers who are supposed to check never say anything.
unless you look not white and/or housed enough to them
I check both of those boxes and still don't get hassled.
You're dumb.
I believe that public transportation should be free, especially for low income individuals. I don't fit that definition anymore, so I am happy to pay to help keep it funded.
I know what the person is trying to say.
But It's a bad look for them, as it comes across as them trying to suggest that stealing is ok.
Not everyone skipping fares can't afford it
Skipping a fare should not be punishable by death, I don't care how wealthy the skipper is.
That's not what happened here most likely. No references, no context
Chances are someone got aggressive or violent whilst being arrested due to ticket theft
There's a reason there is no real info here
Nobody is going to go and shoot someone because they see them jump over a barrier. Something else happened
But what if billionare skips?
You're right - the death penalty is absolutely deserved over $2.90 if they could afford it.
False equivalency
Neither are ok. And I'm not saying they are
In fact, Trumpians do this.
Trump will do 1000 shitty things. And he'll get his followers to focus on 1 thing
We don't even know the full context here.
Ok but now youre saying skipping the fare should be punished by death?
At a minimum.
Also bring poor, coloured, the wrong gender or any other reason.
They should just go back to cutting hands off for theft /s
Lol
That's not what I said. False equivalency.
And there is no context here or anything. I doubt anyone got shot because of not paying for their ticket
They probably got aggressive or violent, and it just happened to be whilst they were being arrested.
who put this poster up? the subway or a protest group?
It wasn't put up by the MTA. I have no idea why you're getting downvoted, and the person who responded to you with misinformation is getting upvoted.
https://www.newsweek.com/nyc-subway-fare-poster-warning-death-penalty-1989001
thanks for posting the source. down-votes don't bother me. down-votes are supposed to be used if the comment has no addition or content to the topic being discussed, not because you don't like what someone is saying.
The subway. The OMNY logo is on the bottom
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