'National divorce': Marjorie Taylor Greene threatens Trump dissenters with secession
'National divorce': Marjorie Taylor Greene threatens Trump dissenters with secession
that's not… usually what you do win you win. so like… honestly… okay, kick me out, let me be governed by a saner government. also DC is between two blue state so good luck evacuating back to your conservative safe space, dumbass
Predictable. The donvict-humpers supposedly "win", and then get even MORE angry. Why so angry?
I suspect it's because for this brief period of time, anyway, it's hard for them to avoid just how HATED they and their precious golden donvict truly are. They thought they'd "win" and all the normal Americans around them would just disappear. And yet, Karens like Green continue to get confronted by normal people.
The donvict-humpers supposedly “win”, and then get even MORE angry. Why so angry?
Because we've stolen their martyrdom from them by losing.
This is outrageously anecdotal but the trumpers I know were all grins on the day after until they realized we weren’t gonna just get over this and they just labeled themselves. They seem pissy now, and one in my office in particular that used to chat with me about sports is really broken up I don’t want to anymore
Why so angry? It's all they know..
Don't threaten me with a good time lady.
Right? The country is split basically 50. This seems like the obvious thing to do.
I wouldnt say that. Left and right leaning people are mixed all over the country. It's not like the civil war when people were geographically located where the states wanted to cecede.
Point is, my comment was a joke. If the U.S. fractures into a bunch of smaller countries, its not going to be a good time for anybody.
I mean... as long as California takes Colorado and New Mexico with it, I see no real issues with that. We get the economy, the nature, and the nukes.
We'll bring along Oregon and Washington, at least the west halves, and call the country the Collective of American States.
Lets go for the Fallout 2 version I want to annoy everyone.
Something that I learned recently makes this flag make absolutely no sense.
The bear on the flag of The Republic of California, is extinct, and has been since the 1920s. Therefore in the Fallout universe, that bear is also extinct. None of them could have mutated into the two headed version. Where the heck did this flag come from?
Yep. Best Christmas present they could offer.
Do it. Push her harder.
Aren’t the nukes in Montana and the dakotas? Though I’m under the impression we also keep some silos in the rural northeast.
Here is a handy map of some of our nukes as of 2006 https://uploads.fas.org/sites/4/NotebookMap.pdf
But also? The expertise to maintain and build nukes are very much California and New Mexico as that is where the three major NNSA labs and their support facilities are.
About the only thing that would make me happier than to have the entire pacific west coast secede and create a sovereign nation would be for Trump to do it for us so we don't have to fight a war over it. You want us gone? Please, show us the exit, we'll be on our way. No takebacksies.
I'm hoping for Cascadia.
This made me feel good to think about. And the downsides about why we could never do it are now equally matched and going to happen anyway.
Only issue would be public health stuff, but that requires cooperation across the board.
How is it not illegal for her to say these things? Like is that a threat against the United States?
A known traitor threat against the United States was allowed to run for and be elected president. This country doesn't have laws except for the poor and it certainly doesn't have a functioning system of justice or even government at this point.
Depends.
Protected by the first amendment, one can legally advocate for the dissolution of the Union through bicameral ratification outlined constitutionally by constitutional amendment. To advocate for armed insurrection or violent overthrow of the federal government is sedition and considered quite illegal.
please?
Don’t threaten me with a good time…
So they know that Texas doesn't have a GDP high enough to even run all their red catastrophies, right? I'm kidding, I know they don't know. They probably also don't know that CA would be the third largest super power if they ever let us go. Which they won't. At all.
Californians are in an abusive relationship. Blamed for everything and not allowed to leave
And we pay them more money than we use for ourselves.
Just let us have our fires in peace damnit!
California should secede and kick off the great (terrible) balkanization of the formerly united states
NCR & The North East republic
Vs
Yeehawistan
Unfortunately that would cause a Pakistan-Bangladesh situation with a country connected by airlines. Except worse because Illinois, Minnesota, Colorado, and New Mexico would be enclaves in trumpistan
I don’t know, they are certainly close to dumb enough to sign off on it. Or, you know, we can just do it and ignore the rules since they are all so fond of that now.
Oh no, please, don't
If it weren't mainly a rural vs. urban split, I'd be all for the fascists getting their own country to ruin. But we're too spread out to make it feasible.
Yeah, we'd essentially become three countries - the West, the East, and the No-Go Zone in the middle. Just get us New Mexicans to somewhere decent before all borders close.
If it weren’t mainly a rural vs. urban split, I
Yeah, we'd have to move them somewhere, perhaps down South.... Make the link around say Virginia... Sounds familiar, but I can't lay my finger on it...
Oh look, a broken clock.
How many times do we need to keep this nation "united" at gunpoint before we acknowledge that the science and reason people are incompatible with the supply side Jesus and racial hatred people? We can't stand one another, and time only deepens that division until bloodshed, over and over.
You can't educate those cultures that refuse to be educated or have their children educated. That kind of change, born of desperation and constant struggle inflicted from your own culture's values needs to come from within. The Red States need their Martin Luther "maybe we shouldn't punch ourselves in the face every day" reformation moment, and it isn't rational for those that see beyond their ignorance and superstition be dragged down with them for generations until they get there. Blue states propping them up only prolong comfort in their ignorance.
You can't force cultural evolution or save the willfully ignorant from their own willlfull ignorance from outside on Alabama any more than you can on Afghanistan, all you do is create a common enemy for them, as we continue to experience.
I have held this stance for many years (am not American though), and everytime I proposed it someone from the US told me "Nooo we've had that in the past and we fought a civil war in order to stay together!!! We can't split!" and I think it's like a broken marriage that was never easy to begin with that's just being held together because the parties are too stubborn to say "ok well let's split up". It's an unhealthy relationship.
A republican flip flopping on states rights again? I'm shocked.
'We have the right to tell you what to do. You cannot tell us what to do."
Marjorie Taylor Dumbfuck here doesn't realize that her state, and in fact all Republican-led states, are solely dependent on blue state generosity in order to continue to exist. I'm sure the blue states would absolutely love for these freeloading welfare states to leave the union, because it would offer an immediate federal surplus that could be better allocated on themselves. It will never happen, because the smart conservatives love having a never-ending money faucet they can gargle when their economic plans fail due to their own ineptitude.
Poetic, and agreed on all points. I stress because if these fucking morons are dumb enough to try, I have to predict it so I can get the fuck out before everything collapses.
Honestly, with what I'm genuinely concerned is going to happen, that would probably be preferable. Give everyone some notice, and we can escape the nutjobs by being homeless in California and New York instead of concentrated in camps in Florida and Georgia. I mean, it'll inevitably make the blue state nation more conservative as they blame southern refugees for all their problems, but it'd still be better more than likely
The notice is now. I’m getting out of Ohio for that reason.
Yeah, divorce yourself from all those states that send you money because you're too backward to care for yourself. Sounds like a great idea!
There should be a bot that searches out MarjorieTG posts and auto-comments ”What a fucking idiot.”
Nah. Make it look like the call is coming from inside the house.
"Typical hysterical woman. Leave running the country to men, sweetie."
[Wearing the US flag as a t-shirt and a pair of pajamas]: "I believe in the UNITED States of America!!!! ..... but I want a divorce"
I'm literally moving to a blue state. The one good idea she had I beat her to it. Peace idiots.
Greene on Monday described these actions as a threat against Trump's "mandate."
That mandate calls for actions Democratic states must accept, Greene argued, such as the mass deportation of "illegal invaders" and preventing trans children from playing sports.
The funny thing is that MTG is getting less and less of a "mandate" from GA-14 for all of her crap: In 2020 she got 74.6 percent of the vote, in 2022 she got 65.9, and in 2024 she got 64.4. Keep it up Marge.
Yeah, but she mainly represents white supremacist goblins in human forms.
Certainly
They all swore an oath to equal protection under the law. Funny how they can ignore that mandate
Presidents don't get to mandate, they serve. She can fuck herself.
The rest of the US doesn't deserve California's economy
Canada has given the world some of the worst extremists, racists, etc. (Proud Boys being one of the more recent horrible things we've exported)
There's a group that popped up during the convoy called diagolon. They posted this way back which seems like how things would work (a path from Russia to Florida)
They claim it's a joke, but isn't it always just a joke.
Pretty sure BC, VA, and CO are not going along with that.
I think it still works if you swap Alberta for BC and exclude VA and CO
Once the first (new) secession happens, the rest will flee for one reason. The Republicans are trying to ban porn.
Diagolon sounds too much like where Harry bought his wizard supplies.
Why do these idiots always pick names that just make them sound even dumber?
Since the House and EC are capped, we should take the excess population that is not being represented and move it around.
What's the split on ports in blue states vs red states?
Depends on how long hurricane season is. And how much more powerful hurricanes will get.
Carried by Florida and Louisiana.
The United States has 4 significant maritime features: the Atlantic coast, the pacific coast, the Great Lakes (sometimes called the north coast), and the Mississippi which is a river that is able to stand next to the Amazon and Nile, but is surrounded by arable and hospitable land.
For the Atlantic coast the major ports are largely in the northeast, florida, and Louisiana. They’d be able to build up South Carolina I’m sure, and if they need to can probably build up Alabama and Mississippi. But no real issues because they’d have Florida and New Orleans.
The Pacific coast is California, Oregon, and Washington( with its major ports being some of the bluest cities in the country. Though the non contiguous states are both pacific, but alaska swings and is contrary and Hawaii is blue and in the middle of the ocean. That’s irrelevant though because they’re accessed by air and sea. They get nothing there snd would rely on the Panama Canal.
The Great Lakes are a blue region. Michigan swings, as does Wisconsin, but the bluest part of Ohio aside from Columbus is the northern coastline (obviously especially Cleveland), the bluest region of Indiana is their northern coastline, and every other Great Lakes state is either blue or swing. And thanks to canals the Great Lakes allow for goods to be sent to the ocean, but it’s through the northeast so in a hostile situation Indiana and Ohio are basically landlocked. I imagine because of that Wisconsin and Michigan would go blue. It’s just too advantageous to not (similar to Kentucky and Maryland in the civil war)
The Mississippi is where they’d thrive. Louisiana is a major hit to the blue states here, the Mississippi is one of our country’s best economic features, and they’d be getting most states that border it, which doesn’t matter because they’d also be getting the outlet. The trumpistani economy would more or less be entirely dependent on it. And blockading the Mississippi is not only an obvious thing to do if civil war, it’s something the north did in the last one
I'm sure the blue states won't have an issue losing the subsidies-dependent red states. I wonder where flyover country wants to get the money from to keep up their lifestyle.
They'll get it from Russian and Saudi oligarchs, maybe.
Good luck with that.
I'm hoping Cascadia finally gets realized. I want to uninvite Idaho, though.
Boise is pretty rad tho
Too bad you guys and Idaho are gonna be New NorCal.
We already are already. (Seattle)
she would be very surprised if she could read. i wonder who would pay for a lot of walls that would need to be built, though.
https://gppreview.com/2020/02/21/growing-divide-red-states-vs-blue-states/
Is that a promise? I'm here for it
Can we just give Florida and Texas to Mexico? Split CA into like 3-5 states. Uncap the house. Voila, country is fixed... somewhat fixed.
As a Californian dont pull that stupid shit, the only reason we are so functional is cause the rural areas are more or less overridden by the urban areas breaking us up would break that.
As a southern-ish Texan, I love this idea. Granted, the border-city cartels will probably murder the shit out of me, but I could briefly celebrate Mexican heritage without feeling like a poseur.
I don't think Mexico wants either of those two
They should take them over and then deport all the gringos.
Since when has the US ever cared
Hey we are giving back the "profits" for their um... "investment" 😅
Yoink, no give-backs.
🦅
(Just do the "Puerto Rico" treatment and mark it as a "territory" so they cant vote in Mexican elections)
I sincerely doubt that Mexico wants them. Cut them loose and let them sink on their own.
Oh, and send DNC themed evacuation busses so that innocents can escape.
Blue states and red states split as per last election map with exceptions that:
Virgina, Illinois, Minnesota can go red... Arizona will go blue.
We take most of the burden for the Mexican border, they should be happy about that, right?
Can the purple states decide whether to stay with mom or dad? Maybe in 2 years when the farmers are all destitute
Hey, I love my state. You can't just leave it to the whims of these schizophrenic fuck-knuckles.
An insult to people with schizophrenia, honestly
Fucking do it already, I'm tired of the roller coaster. Let them have their MAGA utopia of Dumbfuckistan and leave the rest of us be to maybe finally start fixing things that have been broken for half a century.
Failed mouthpiece for evil reasserts itself as newer, more extreme evil.
Please. Please leave. That would unironicallly be fucking wonderful
Mmmhmmmm "States rights until they won't go along with our bullshit".
What's going on with MTG right now? Release the results of the congressional investigations, allowing the crooks and paedophiles to be driven out as the cripplingly stupid welfare queen red states seceed to starve as the blue states enter an era of prosperity... Broken clocks and whatnot, I suppose.
Bye, Felicia
Ooo. Maybe she should be secretary of the treasury.
Uh oh... Looks like the nation cheated on its spouse at a cross fit?
Go ahead and ride that doorknob on out woman
Who gets the swing states?
Put them on a swing and see what happens, obviously.
I would have imagined you Americans would have liked your country united as it was through your whole lives. Looking at the comments tho... Instead of WW3 we'll see US Civil War 2?
Why not both?
.......yeah, ok. Sounds good.
moves to California
I’ve got “Hotel California” and “San Francisco” battling it out in my head now.
How about Going to California?
The fact that ya didnt list California Dreamin annoys me.
Two of the worst ones.
California Girls. And I'm not specifying which one
It'll never happen. US Military would never willingly split itself apart, let itself get split apart, or let another nation that it's not allied with have any sort of Army on its equivalent. The 50 states are here to stay.
Never say never. The domestic terrorists/agents of Putin are aching for an actual shooting civil war.
<General Sherman claws his way out of the grave.>
The US military is going to be replaced by Trump loyalists. Whatever he wants to happen is what’s gonna happen.
It's expansive here in the places you may want to live, but seriously... It's worth it. There's also a lot of cheap places that aren't as ideal.