Woman testified to House Ethics Committee that Gaetz had sex with her when she was 17: Sources
Woman testified to House Ethics Committee that Gaetz had sex with her when she was 17: Sources
The article mentions that he paid her to have sex with him at a party. That also makes it a sex trafficking crime. Also, IANAL but if the jurisdiction had an age of consent lower than 18, the sex trafficking part might negate that.
Also, Gaetz, who was born in 1982, was 35 at the time -- double her age and well outside the limits of any potential Romeo & Juliet laws.
These parties were also said to be full of drugs (in addition to alcohol), which one could argue blurs any consent, especially when your looking at a 35/yr old man wanting to pay a 17/yr girl for sex. He was also a congressman by then, which also makes this a very lopsided power dynamic when arguing consent with a possibly intoxicated underage girl.
The woman's allegation regarding Gaetz became part of the investigation following claims by Greenberg, a former friend of Gaetz who is currently serving an 11-year prison sentence after reaching a deal with investigators in May 2021 in which he pleaded guilty to multiple federal crimes, including sex trafficking of the woman when she was a minor and introducing her to other "adult men" who also had sex with her when she was underage.
This part also make one more inclined to believe this has something to it, and probably more women that aren't coming forward because of all the death threats and toxicity projected at victims.
AND HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR NEW AG!!
Wasn't he older than that? I saw some other article stating this was 2 years ago when he would have been 40...
Why would having sex at a party make it trafficking.
It's just paid for underage sex at a party.
Unless she was trafficked at the party by someone else, but I don't think that gets the person paying charged with trafficking? That would get the person who trafficked her that charge.
Ups his cred with Republicans. They love pedophiles.
Would you prefer the terminology "raped a minor?" That help you sleep at night?
Banging a 17 year old in a state where the age of consent is 18 makes the argument irrelevant.
Not even a crime in most states: https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/age-of-consent-in-each-us-state-1701408847-1
(This is coming from an Aussie where 16 is the AoC in all states. We have exceptions that make it 18 if the other party has a duty of care tho)
Edit: I should add that it's still fucking creepy and weird when an older man does this. Just, not pedophilia, and not by default (statutory) rape in most places. Unlike what the people in this thread seem to think.
It's almost like we shouldn't water down such serious terms by lumping everything in with it.
Ok, Billy Ray.
Don't be him. Language is fluid.
That should probably give him a huge assist within trump’s regime. They seem to love that type of thing.
Why do you think he was selected for AG?
Partly, to make the House drop their investigation because he's no longer a member...
I knew it was going to be bad, but holy shit...
I've also noticed nobody has even mentioned EPA. My guess is that he will just do away with it altogether.
For sure, nothing better than a sycophant lackey except a sycophant lackey they have dirt on, ask Putin.
"These allegations are invented and would constitute false testimony to Congress," Gaetz said in response to ABC News' reporting.
AG Gaetz has his first case all lined up doesn't he?
So, we are going to have an actual child-fucker as AG.
Republicans, "the party of law and order".
🤣
Btw, if there is anyone that I would believe would feed on adrenochrome....just look at Gaetz. Sure, the adrenochrome thing is just rehashed antisemitic blood libel bullshit, but I could see Gaetz maybe trying it out to see....
Hey, the President is an adjuducated rapist with 34 felony convictions, why should the AG be clean?
The pizza basements will become mandatory.
Do they come with pizza ovens? Regular ovens just don't get the dough hot enough for a good crust.
There are many credible accusations against Trump being a pedophile. So why would his AG be any different?
Pointed out last night that a sexually active 17-yo isn't anything like a "child" or "kid". Got buried. She also started an OF site at 18. Magically crossed a calendar date and went from "child" to "full grown woman who can do whatever the fuck she pleases". Weird how that works. In any case, I'm glad she did as she pleased and finally testified.
Been following Gaetz because he was my Congressman. Simple history, he's a rich frat boy that got lucky. Should have never hit the national stage when he did, or ever. Explains much. My god, he was showing nudies around the House floor!
NONE of that changes the fact that he's guilty as fuck of all the charges leveled at him. Or at least I think so, barring a court date or the release of the House investigation. But facts are dead around here, he's a "child fucker". Whatever.
I went to look at your comment. I'll be polite and summarize it instead of sharing the exact quote.
I was 18 and had a 17 year old girlfriend and we had a ton of sex. That's what 17 year olds do.
If you don't understand how the power dynamics are different between 2 nobodies of similar age vs a 17 year old and a 38 year old federal representative and his local gov buddy, you may want to read some things written about consent written in the last decade.
When I was 17, someone almost 40 was considered old as hell.
Edit: Article on coercion vs consent
They had her out of state, where she likely didn't really know where she was, likely had no one to get help from if she felt she was in a bad situation, and was there with very much more adult authority figures, and there were drugs at the party, so she may have also been under the influence.
You also can't fault someone for taking time to want to testify. She probably felt at least partially responsible, and he is a national figure. It takes time to get up courage to open yourself up to the whole world getting a chance to say things like you must have wanted it or did something to deserve it.
People are adults at 17?
When is the last time you tried to communicate with a 17 year old, as an adult? It you have anything in common with someone like that, then you're creepy.
Rapists are paying close attention.....a phrase that is now a normal thing one would expect to be said on radio and TV news.
Gold star Attorney General qualities. Trump does surround himself with the best.
This AG appointment is the biggest troll but the dude stayed loyal to Trump.
Trolling is baiting people to argue with you. This is destroying our nations integrity, one pedophile appointment at a time.
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump comes out and says that you have to be good at breaking the law before you can apply it
Woah are they gonna promote Gaetz to president?
This guy looks like insane Jack Torrance
I'd say that he's the adult version of Butthead in the reboot of Beavis and Butthead. But i gotta ask: what does sane Jack Torrance look like..?
Gross.
I don't even know why things like this get posted anymore when we all know it doesn't make one lick of a difference.
Here we go...
Just looked it up, it is 18 in Florida.
You could try not defending the guy entirely baselessly then
It's reasonably possible that trump likes him specifically because of these accusations.
Emperor Trump has a quiz for you dissidents: does this napkin smell like novichok? Answer honestly, you peasant.
What the hell are you talking about?
The president-elect has no idea what Gaetz looks like. The president-elect doesn’t even know Gaetz. The president-elect has never considered Gaetz for AG. The president-elect and Gaetz have never met.
For the uninformed, this is funny (and sarcasm) because there's mountains of evidence of them together. Besides, you know, picking him for AG. But he tries this defense all the time anyway, and people actually believe it.
Just like explicitly Trump calling up members of Congress to kill the bipartisan border bill, and then blaming the Democrats for not passing a border bill. They sold that one on the campaign trail too, and it worked.
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Every pick has been specifically chosen to be bad for their role.
Gaetz was 100% chosen for ATTORNEY GENERAL because of the accusations.
Kinda feels like it. I wonder if the idea is to lower the bar for the next pick -- someone who sucks 75% as badly?
It's like one massive trolling so they can say "see how bad it could have been? Now take this close to but not quite as bad choice and like it."
He will never top Romney for head of the DOE. Yes yes it's bad to appoint people as a form of trolling but you have to admit sometimes he's funny.
A distraction perhaps