Microsoft OneDrive is the maggots in the dog shit
There shouldn't be worms in the poop of a healthy dog. This analogy just keeps getting better and more accurate.
That's all.
There's more: microsoft outlook is garbage
The new outlook has exceeded "garbage" and gone all the way to dumpster fire. It sometimes takes upwards of 15, 30 seconds to open an email. The new auto formatting is a hindrance to be overcome by tricking it to act how you want. Trying to schedule an event across timezones shits the bed half the time, resulting in improper meeting times being sent out. Absolute failure.
New Outlook also doesn't support Really Simple Syndication, which I used a lot with the Old Outlook.
So back to old Outlook I go.
I accidentally switched to it and it dropped all my non-MS mailboxes. Then when I immediately switched back it had the gall to ask me why.
Ever try finding an old email by sender. Lol, good luck
I'll die on the hill that classic outlook is far better than Gmail and similar web interfaces for email especially if you have long threads or lots of emails.
Also somehow Google's email search sucks so bad compared to searching in outlook.
I agree. The old Outlook was snappy and dense of information. The new Outlook is just a fucking web page.
Thunderbird <3
If I'm being honest the only Microsoft product I actually like is Excel.
They're doing their best to "improve" excel too... I can't understand how their AI generated cell fill is worse than the old approach.
Microsoft Teams isn’t all bad! For example, it bogged down my work computer so much at start up that I would basically get an extra break.
It temporarily deletes my meetings just before they happen, so that I don't have to attend them!
Of course, when I open it later, the meetings are restored, with the original date, and no trace of the deletion. So not attending them is quite hard to explain to others. But it does save me from attending!
fuxk yea I get like an extra 30 mins a day at leastttt
Is there a Microsoft product that isn't?
To be fair, Teams is pretty bad even for MS. I've never seen something do so relatively little and still perform so poorly. When I switched jobs and got to use Slack it was like a great fog being lifted off of my being.
VS Code. That's it though.
You may know already, but you should try VSCodium. At least they took the Micro$hit telemetry out!
Ah yes, you're right.
I guess a better qualifier might be: closed-source Microsoft products tend overwhelmingly to suck.
Powertoys too
I have an old Microsoft brand thumb drive that fits perfectly into my ass and makes me nut every time
Sadly I had to go the other way, from Slack to Teams. Oh the horror!!
For your sacrifices, I salute you
Excel?
i hate ms with every fiber of my being, but teams has gotten better. it used to be practically unusable. now its just mostly so
I do not believe anyone at Microsoft actually uses it because if they did there's no way in hell that they would have let it be that bad.
It literally keeps every single conversation you've ever had in a big long list on the left, with absolutely no way to organize it, categorize it, order it, or in any way manage it other than deleting history, that's it you can delete history.
Microsoft's design philosophy in any of their products has gone from well organized menus to relying instead on a search bar. Copilot is a further addition to that design, with yet more pushes to never use a menu, but instead just tell it what you want and have it spit it back out. They want everything you make to go on OneDrive as well, so it can also be indexed this way. Teams works the same way. The big search bar at the top is unavoidable.
Windows search is complete garbage, which you might think is a counterpoint, but instead it's just that they only put work into having it serve results for cloud-indexed items or web results.
We used to use it before switching to Google Workspace (don't get me started on how much I hate that), and Teams wasn't too bad. But it had two things going for it then:
- It was replacing Skype for Business which never should existed because it was so awful. Compared to SfB, literally anything was an improvement.
- At the time, it was basically a Slack clone that didn't have everything and the kitchen sink bolted on yet and was decently lightweight if you used the browser version.
I've had nothing but issues with it since their "upgrade" over the last year or so. It keeps cycling between the new and old versions when I open it, it often closes itself on my PC, and every time I try to pin it to my Taskbar it disappears.
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Teamsis dog shitFTFY
They make use it at my job. I hate it.
What blows my mind is MS fucking bought Skype and somehow Teams still can't handle video calls correctly. The actual fuck did they do with that acquisition?
Skype used to be peer to peer. Your call went from you to your friend (whomever). Microsoft decided that they couldn't mitm that setup to scrape data; so, soon after they acquired Skype, they made all calls go through their servers.
Then they tried to make Skype make more money, since those servers aren't free. Then they made teams and copied half the code into that, and cludged the rest to make it hold together.
Well, I'm a unix guy for 30 years and hated M$ bill gates blablabla and forced to use windows at work etc. Teams was somewhat bad at the beginning, especially start of covid pandemic , I'm using Teams multiple times daily for ~5 years now. But since ~1 year it handles video call pretty nicely, 20+ feeds, share screens, whiteboard, etc. it's pretty stable at least, don't crash anymore, and we can have multiple accounts. It took times to reach this state I agree...
In the past two years, I have had horrible issues where it decides that I'm not allowed to join the call because I have a Teams account logged into a different organization, that it won't let me log out of. An issue where Microsoft servers just time out if you have ipv6 enabled, etc.
Don't get me started on Skype for Business. It's still around.
What's bad about it? I'm a Linux admin by nature but an admin of all by profession and overall I have no real complaints about Teams. Has always worked just fine for me and to my knowledge everyone else.
Slow, buggy, annoying interface, hogs extreme amounts of resources locally, can be used to spy on its users.
What's not to like? It's basically how Elon envisions X, an "everything app" that is actually good at nothing specific.
Agreed. It feels a bit janky here and there but otherwise works ok.
But don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t say I like it.
It's missing basic features. The stuff that any normal human would assume it can do it just can't do. It's absolutely terrible if you use it in a large organization where you have to speak to multiple different people.
For one-on-one conversations I guess it's okay but the moment you try and get anything more complicated than that going on it becomes a nightmare.
I haven’t used competing apps to know, but as a forced teams user it is very sluggish, seems to break other ms apps half the time and has some strange and persistent design choices that irk me. It also crashes on its own, when I’m not using it 2-3 times a day.
It has improved in terms of features lately, but still feels very bloated and WIP most of the time. It still won’t let me control where video windows are, and I’ll never understand this.
This is our replacement for Skype, which was obviously feature deficient and getting old, but does what it’s supposed to do and doesn’t cause problems.
Not sure if there’s a good competing app in terms of video and slack functionality, integration into outlook and onedrive (both of which also annoy me and seem to be performing worse-over-time, but are unavoidable and sometimes useful.)
While I have close to zero trust in MSFT and event much dislike a lot of m365, teams isn’t actually that bad and loop is really good.
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Teamsis dog shitThat's all.
Bill Gates is en route to your location
I literally saw someone using slack the other day and got excited. Wtf is wrong with me
I wish we could use Slack.
It was a few years ago, but I still panic when I hear the incoming call sound. One of the worst sounds ever made.
Fuck everything about Microsoft products. The different licenses are a nightmare, the programs are shit, and "FUCK YOU FOR TRYING TO INSTALL A PROGRAM OR USE LOCAL STORAGE" seems to be the default.
Also I don't trust them not to be spying on users. But sure, every government job I've had we used the products.
It literally doesn't even function half the time.
That's not all, a ton of schools use it
I think I don't like that Microsoft has access to stored chat messages between kids.
Who told you to tell the truth?
You had no right!
well, it's not just Teams and not just MS. Have you worked with Zoom lately? I do agree that Teams occupies that very special dark space in my heart right next to hate and loathing.
Zoom works for video. I test it a few times a week for a few hours with a few contacts each time.
And a few beer.
It's a vPub most of the time with some tech thrown in.
I hate to say it, but FB Messenger is realizable for me too : starts well, sounds good, video's clean, ends cleanly . I need to remind mom how to start that call when it's with her on her old portal unit, but yeah. Cambridge is the worst thing to happen to good products like M and Portal.
I think that’s a bit insensitive to dogs
At least it's better than Slack and Discord. Still shit of course, but it could be worse.
better than Slack
You’re not supposed to be this drunk this early in the day.
365 is just shiiiit. Even Google's stuff (free) is far better and less intrusive/annoying.
Have to use it at work, it is a real nightmare.
