Anyone have any advice on hating people less?

i have a similar issue at times and i've found embracing a buddhist mindset has helped me with this. i think buddhism and marxism are pretty compatible worldviews, even if they seem very opposed at first.

to cut straight to the answer to your question: try to replace hate with compassion. when you find yourself expending mental energy on hating a specific group of people (bourgeoisie, CHUDs online, etc), remind yourself that 1) they are not content with their inner lives and that's why they behave in a way that makes you hate them and 2) they are suffering due to capitalism, even if they're suffering is different in both kind a degree from yours. even the "winners" in this system are miserable (e.g., elon musk. the richest dude on earth is also deeply unhappy)

note the emphasis on teh word "try" in the previous paragraph. you will fail at having compassion for your enemies, and that's ok -- you're only human and you need to have compassion for yourself as well when you fail. just making the effort will make you less hateful and angry

Death to America

Obviously there’s a lot to unpack here and it sounds like your issues go deeper than what internet discussions can fix, but I would recommend the following:

• stop making assumptions about people. Everything you’ve said suggests that you are making judgments about people’s entire world view and personality based on fleeting interactions. You don’t know shit about them.

• people are nuanced and contain multitudes of thoughts, opinions, behaviours, emotions, etc. their outward expression on any given day is dependent on a bunch of stuff like hunger, tiredness, stress level, etc.

• take a dialectical view. The whole point of leftist theory is that things, including people, can and do change. Implicit in your hatred is the assumption that negative things you observe are the natural or sole state of someone, which is contrary to leftist thought.

• actually make connections with people. Empathise with them. Think about why they are saying what they say. Think about how you would respond if you had the experiences that made up their life. And if the answer is “my life was similar but I made it out”, try to turn that into empathy and not condescension. Not everyone is as capable of throwing off the shackles they were born with by themselves.

Not sure any advice on a website is going to do you much good. Clearly you're struggling with something but the way you've described your perspective it seems like you regard yourself as better than others.

What drove you to the left other than compassion for your fellow human? Surely you know some people who don't even know what 4chan is or at least didn't know it was still around. If you hate everyone what's the point of fighting to make their lives better?

Do you work retail? Cuz not working retail helped a lot. I got laid off from my manufacturing job and had to go back to it and now I'm considering worshiping the ruinous powers to bring humanity to and end in the name of CHAOS!

Get involved with people doing work. Volunteer, mutual aid, etc. Believe it or not, feeling better about yourself helps you see the good in others too.

Historical materialism. Understanding that a person is largely shaped by their conditions allows you to realise that expurging brainworms is really hard, but not impossible.

It also allows you to realise that being nice to you and having your interests at heart are two very, very different things.

I'd like to add that a common symptom of burnout is the exhaustion of empathy. When you no longer have the energy to care for yourself, you cannot care much about other people either.

Take care of yourself, comrade. <3

I for a long time thought of myself as an angry or even hateful person, but in the last few years I've realized it's because I love people generally that I can feel that way - when you have someone for their racism or sexism, it may help you to find peace if you consider that the reason it makes you hate is your love for those marginalized peoples.

When it comes to seeing people like that, I try to keep it mind "There but for the grace of God go I" - I'm in my late twenties and a white guy who grew up in rural America, had I not been exposed to leftist works during my schooling, it's very easy to imagine a world where I had fallen into very hateful ideologies. If you can see in others how they have ended up how they are, it's easier to understand them and maybe you'll still dislike or have them, but it's something you can pair with "I wish it didn't turn out this way for you."

I struggled with this for a long time too.

I’m going to do the meme here and say “reading theory” helps a lot but it’s true. It helped me anyway. Particularly anything relating to propaganda. If you think people are stupid it is likely they were made stupid with willful intent. They are victims and the correct people to hate are the people vested in keeping it that way.

I also learned a lot from reading about Che. He confused me when I was younger because for someone who talked about love so much he committed an awful lot of violence. A true romantic if there ever was one.

It sounds kind of paradoxical but being around strangers can help

the times in my life when a random passerby offered me something I needed were very powerful experiences for me

What drove me left(er) is my hatred for humanity.

I just kinda let peoples bad vibes wash over me, but I can zone out while someone is screaming at me. Music helps build compassion I think. There's a lot to learn and a lot of beauty in it and it makes community. I think food can be this way too. I think more people hate me than I hate them, but those are people I know know. I barely think about the people on the street or train or whatever.

4chan people are pretty rare imo. Most boomers just post equally bad shit on facebook or reddit.

Wasn't there some study or something that said that anger is more similar to joy than sadness?

I'm learning to hate people more but in general the thing that earnestly held me back was just using empathy - even if i am objectively in the right I can still see how people get to a decision or behavior usually, and it always regulated me to remind myself i'm just another dipshit with stuff going on that someone is gonna see and absolutely fucking hate, and thereby hate me.

I just try to give the benefit of the doubt that I'd want. I don't have people's story. I don't know how they got to whatever they're doing, or why.

But also this never covered all use cases and sometimes it's just better to hate. I dunno man it feels like it degrades me to lean into it though, i kinda hate hate

Read A Paradise Built In Hell by Rebecca Solnit. Here's a decent overview, but I recommend the whole book.

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What helps me is considering we are all hardly one step above wild animals. We do what is instinctual and based on our conditioning and upbringing which no one has any choice in. If a dog was raised to attack people, I wouldn't get upset at that dog when they attack people, it's what they have been made to do by outside influence.

I really believe most people aren't so selfish and reactionary as 4channers or whatever though. If everyone gives you this feeling maybe it would be helpful to spend time around different people somewhere else?

I did grow up Buddhist though, it's been drilled into me since early on to have kindness and compassion for all people, and similarly to Buddhism, Marxism teaches that we are products of our conditions, so I tend to hate the conditions rather than the person.

This stayed with me after I watched it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgjHM8ngWrM

I don't know if it'll help, but often I have to remind myself that when people are put in a very real, present, and visible disaster scenario... people tend to help one another. They can be propagandized against helping one another (see: covid), but their initial reaction is to help. People are not innately bad, they must be taught to be that way. This helps me, even when things seem bleak.

we are all a product of our material conditions, which means that if society gets better people will to. this is what i tell me to motivate myself to do real-world organizing.

also, people in immigrant communities are usually pretty sweet.

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What reengages my empathy muscle is remembering that lots of these people are fucking miserable, even if they lack the introspection to appreciate it. Imagine being a fucking evangelical conservative housewife for instance - no real agency or support or avenue to grow. Even imagine yourself as an evangelical conservative bread-winning husband - no real avenue for self expression or discovery, and you harm the people around you constantly without a framework to understand that.

Even when you look at fascist states like Israel, how fucking tragic for all of those indoctrinated people that their worldview is as narrow and corrupted as it is, and, honestly, most of those people didn't have a hope in hell. Fucking cooked because they happened to be born in a fascist state.

Whenever I go down this line of thinking, I always end up feeling that it's just so... sadly rational that so many awful people are full of that weird impotent rage.

NB: I am also definitely not saying that I'm some saint who can always keep this thinking, it is truly advice on framing that makes me personally hate people less when I have the energy for it.

Part of me wonders if you're overstimulated. People have different limits and that can really affect how you deal with people. I have built up a tolerance for bullshit over the years working in retail, I'm not sure if that's good or bad.