4mo ago

Neutrality for Ukraine will not bring peace as Russia cannot be trusted to adhere to any agreement, Finland's foreign minister says

www.reuters.com /world/europe/finland-dismisses-finlandisation-model-ukraine-2024-11-11/

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Finland's Foreign Minister Elina Valtonen opposes imposing neutrality on Ukraine
Valtonen questions Russia's trustworthiness in adhering to agreements
Forcing Ukraine to accept terms could undermine international system, Valtonen says

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4mo ago

Neutrality for Ukraine will not bring peace as Russia cannot be trusted to adhere to any agreement, Finland's foreign minister says

www.reuters.com /world/europe/finland-dismisses-finlandisation-model-ukraine-2024-11-11/

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4mo ago

Neutrality for Ukraine will not bring peace as Russia cannot be trusted to adhere to any agreement, Finland's foreign minister says

www.reuters.com /world/europe/finland-dismisses-finlandisation-model-ukraine-2024-11-11/

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Well OK, the Russians have broken every peace accord for the past few hundred years. But surely this time it will be different.
~ European "centrist" politicians

Damn true.
I don't know who thinks anyone will believe in a russian commitment.

Whole of Europe has just discovered that you need to heavily invest in your armies and be part of a strong military alliance. And now the already partly occupied nation on ruzzis southern border shall feel safe without any allies?
Nah, buddies, piss off with that dumb idea. As an European I'd say: Make Ukraine stronger and help them achieve peace in their country at their terms.

@Cephalotrocity I think Finland and Sweeden should become some of the NATO leaders should the US withdraw to any extent

Neutrality could work if we give Ukraine nuclear weapons and the ability to make more. That's the only thing other than a military alliance that'll reliably keep Russia out of the country.
I get the feeling that nuclear proliferation would not be seen as a desirable solution, though.
- They have everything. Plutonium, high tech manufacturers, ballistic missile tech. Sure they won't be doomsday level mirvs.
  
  Good point. It's more of an "allowing them to build nukes" thing than a "teach them to build nukes" one – although the existing nuclear-armed nations could certainly accelerate the heck out of a Ukrainian nuclear program if they wanted.
- Accelerationist's platform: nuke in every home by 2030.

True and "fuck-you-Putin"-Pilled

Well. I'm hoping the negotiations will turn sour and trump sends a shit load of equipment to ukraine.

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