We should give them enough gear to substantially weaken our own military.
The Dems need to learn to play dirty. Biden needs to de-fang his own office as much as possible in the next 2 months. And as official acts, he can do it with the Court's blessing.
Stop taking the high road and burn the fucking White House down before Trump can take it back.
Gift the entirety of military resources not stationed in CONUS to NATO allies. If the plan was to try to strong-arm our allies for protection, literally take the ammo away.
And as official acts, he can do it with the Court's blessing.
You forget, the courts only would use that logic to help republicans and hinder democrats.
Precedent has no meaning to these fucks.
Well, he's also like 4 heartbeats from death. Might as well go out with a bang.
Both sides of this monopolized 2-party system are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich.
When will average Joe wake up and realize this? There is no fixing this diseased system from the inside and hoping and wishing to elect a "good guy" for once, when they're all corrupt puppets.
Americans need to cowboy the fuck up and take their country back from a tyrannical death-cult, fascist government. Or sit back and lose everything.
"First they came ..."
What took them so fucking long?
why didn't we do this before
It's still the same as before and nothing on the level USA does for Israel where they happily intercept rockets for that rich, well armed count with an installed iron dome air defense.
Still no US air raids on Donbas and Crimea and such.
Maybe democrats expected a negative effect on the ballots because of it. Macron did something similar while running against le pen on last year? and released the package as soon as the ellection was settled
Because the military-industrial complex needed to slow-drip the weapons to make the war last as long as possible.
Until today, I’ve been thoroughly in favor of supporting Ukraine. Since Ukraine isn’t going to get any support from the next administration, rushing out a final aid package (if the current administration can even manage that) only seems like it will briefly delay Russia’s slow victory.
I’d like to be shown that I’m wrong. Please comment if you have an outlook that’s more positive than mine.
There is a tremendous amount of mostly empty Ukrainian land left. If Russia wants it all, their casualties will end in the millions, even without additional US aid. We're not the only suppliers, after all.
I have one, hear me out: it looks like the current german gov will decide to give up and have early elections. Current polls suggest that Merz will become chancellor. On multiple occasions he criticized Scholz for his cautious approach and voiced his support for Taurus deliveries. Not sure if he will go through but I think he specifically mentioned Taurus so often and prominently that it won't be easy to back pedal now. So it's likely that Taurus (and with it the Kerch bridge?) is back on the menu.
(Imho he's quite a shitty politician otherwise, but maybe he can get at least this right)
@smokeysnilas @magnetosphere hold your horses. Opposition talk is cheap. He still had no 'Cobra' - Clearance. (BuSiRat) #freethetaurus #destroyrussiaonceandforall
Well, we don't actually know that the next administration won't support them any. We assume they won't because of Trump's attitude to Ukraine, but the republicans have been somewhat divided over the issue, and Trump just does whatever he randomly feels like, and sending more military aid does benefit the MIC that can pay politicians, so it possible, if unlikely, that they'd get some support from them. There's also the possibility of support from Europe or elsewhere in the world. Finally, while a Ukrainian loss without foreign support seems quite likely, the pace of Russia's advances and resource expendature are such that a win for them is no longer likely to be "annex Ukraine or make it a puppet rump state", but more "take a strip of land close to the current occupation line", in which case a stronger Ukraine has a better negotiating position and so may be able to give up less.
With Trump supporting Russia will be a fast victory.
Next aid will be for Russia.
Trump already helped Putin with COVID tests, why not give full support, no one can stop him nowMaybe the EU gets its shit together... this could be for the good on the long run
Why? Spend the money here.
You think they are venmoing Ukraine?
The aid is for weapons delivery via 2 paths:
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Write off appropriation and backfill of mothballed stock we already needed to rotate out or destroy, due to shelf life
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Net new construction of weapons for immediate delivery to Ukraine. That construction happens in the US and us partner nations, and provides the US valuable use Intel as a cherry on top.
It's valuable spending either way.
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Jesus fucking Christ, do you think we are shipping crates of Benjamins to Ukraine?
Are you really this fucking stupid? Clearly the majority of people in the United States are the dumbest motherfuckers alive, so I just need clarification.
That money is spent here. The money gets pumped into the US economy.
We get rid of ancient military equipment, Ukraine gets a boost, and the US economy gets billions of dollars pumped into it
Please educated one tell us how many schools do the weapon manufacturers that get these checks build?
Mmm no, I’m aware they don’t send money. I certainly never said that. And by spend, I mean on the people, not giving it to weapons manufacturers who definitely aren’t putting that money back into the economy.
That's not how it works bub.
How what works?
