Hasan Piker's autopsy of the 2024 US Presidential election

Democrats are completely out of touch. them expecting voters putting other issues on top of them making ends meets and food on the table (like mocking Vance's egg prices ), all the while most polls showing the economy is the biggest concern with 38 % of all voters, is just simply delusional

And they have lost both the popular and electoral college vote. meaning the real problem here is them.

And don't get me started on the propaganda of Iowa's early voters polls showing a Kamala landslide just 2 days before election day. If you live in a left wing bubble and believe this shit, than this should be a hard smack back into reality.

Democrats were too busy making sure progressive candidates were banned from participating in democracy.

So this proves we need to rebuild or create a true opposition party. Running as a moderate party just continously pushes America politics right. Those that wanted a fully different option just stay home on election day. This isn't a both sides argument, just facts. We can't keep failing in this way when the writing is on the wall. We need to change the leadership in the dems. They all need to go! Yes race and gender played a role but Trump is projected to get 6 million less votes this time around than last time. So that means the base for dems just didn't vote. Yes that's upsetting but trying to shame and meme them into voting will never work. Give people something to vote for, not just against. Republicans get it but using fear and promising a better life for their base. (even at the expense of others they at least give that to their base.)such a sad day in America and the only thing that'll save us is to come together as a community and create a party that represents that community.

Swinging left wouldn't have worked either.

There is no high horse. There is no right path. Us Americans have the critical thinking skill of an ant. The left should have fought dirty with a full blown propaganda machine, populist lies, and blatant collusion if they wanted to win, simple as that.

It needs a leftist Trump.

What are Republican's gonna do... demonize democrats even more?

I can't believe the bullshit with the Cheneys. When a war criminal like Dick Cheney endorses you, you disavow them.

Harris even got endorsed by Richard Spencer, who's a white nationalist, and she didn't say shit! What was she thinking? "I've got the neocon vote, now maybe I'll get the Nazi vote"?

Normalizing republican extremism is about the only thing modern neoliberalism has accomplished, and likely why the same billionaires donate to both.

They want the return of feudual society, they just know the only way they get it is if the only other option is a shit sandwich.

So we’re not downvoting anything even slightly critical of the democrats anymore?

Good. Because they fucked this one up.

Isn't it amazing that both the female democratic candidates for president in our history have campaigned with war criminals and then lost. I wonder if there's a lesson there?

I switched my registration party from Democrat to Independent today. Tired of this shit. Enough is enough I'm voting my values from now on.

I went to check Reddit for the first time in a while. It is interesting to see the difference in reaction on Lemmy and Reddit. At least Lemmy is admitting that running a Republican campaign with Lez Cheney might not have been the best idea.

There is absolutely zero self reflection on Reddit. All blame lies on "racist imigrants".

On Reddit Democrats had the perfect economic plan. Forget Kamala failing to secure the Unions. No teamsters endorsement. Forget the railroad strike shutdown. Forget massive inflation. The genocide is never even mentioned on Reddit. Kamala was 100% perfect in every single way.

No mention of the massive increase of young white voters for Trump either

Democrats will lose again in 2028. They vehemently refuse to learn from any of this. Instead of doing anything progressive they will say everyone is a racist and move right.

Remember when everyone hated Cheney? Not sure why the Democrats thought they would help them win an election.

Til a few hundred words by rando dude I've never heard of is an "autopsy".

Everyone from Sanders to Dick fucking Cheney endorsed Harris. Anyone who was paying any attention and wasn't a literal fascist voted for her. The direction of the swing seems irrelevant.

The swing fell short because it's not so much about direction than strength. Macron in 2017 ran the most "hard center" presidential campaign imaginable. Difference is it worked, not because his centrist program was particularly novel but in large part because he is a very charismatic figure and managed to create a voting base of hopefuls for himself. The same can broadly be argued about Obama (whose first act as president was to essentially absolve the previous administration and Wall St of their many sins in case anyone forgot how moderate he was).

Harris ran on a platform of... "I'm not him". Which to any reasonable person is an obvious "yeah OK", but unfortunately most Americans are apathetic cretins who will refuse to move their asses to a polling station if the guy on the telly doesn't promise them a blowie at the voting booth. And the Democrat establishment is simultaneously too big to fail and incapable of producing an actually charismatic leader.

Well, all that and the obvious election interference from Musk, Putin, and the ontological inability of traditional media not to platform literal fascists.

I don't even care whether your attitude is, "Oh no, we fucked up," or you go with option B which is what you're saying. If you have to wonder whether you're gloating or not, then fuck you.

Hey! Don’t forget that it also alienated anyone who is even moderately humanist!

Arrrg paywalls.. at least post the full article in the comments!

As long as dems keep flocking to the areas we've already won, we're gonna have the same problem. We don't need to convincingly win a small number of counties. We need to win more counties.

Where is this "muscular border policy"? I'm not seeing it anywhere! 😂

Only on liberal echo chambers was Kamala too centrist. This is just perpetuation of delusion.

Manchin would have won in a landslide, along with a dozen other candidates who were closer to center.

Every interest group in the Democratic party after a loss: "See? It's because [Candidate] didn't agree with ME enough!"

Maybe if they did your idea the loss would have been worse.

oh good, it's hasan, my favorite (not terroristic propaganda spreading) "political" commentator

Who's that and why should I care what he has to say about anything.

I don't think that you can lay this disaster at the feet of Liz Cheney and a few other star Republicans. That is pretty lazy thinking, and suits a particular progressive viewpoint. This election is going to take years to figure out.

Cue the instant hot takes as to how the orange man climbed the hill he was already sitting on.

is this the random andy streamer guy ? why should I give a shit about what he thinks

So he's saying his fake progressive base stayed home? How is that different to every other election? Appealing to moderates is going to swing the vote more than any attempt to appeal to his psychotic fans who don't even vote in the first place.

All these "this was important to me so it's the reason we lost" takes should be ignored. Especially from a moron like Hasan. The guy was saying it's possible he'll get deported because Trump won.

ah yes, houthi loving, anti-american, antisemitic hasan who wants to flee to japan now. fuck him for brainwashing his audience into not voting. gotta wonder if he's been cashing russian checks too. unamerican traitor and useful idiot for the MAGA cult.

Meanwhile the far left was cutting their own throats by handing the election to the fascists, thanks a lot.

why can't people see that we will never go left till we go far enough right.