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2024 Presidential Election Megapost!

Edit 12:11 PM 11/6 Pacific
Kentucky (8), Indiana (11), West Virginia (4), Florida (30), South Carolina (9), Tennessee (11), Alabama (9), Mississippi (6), Oklahoma (7), Arkansas (6), North Dakota (3), South Dakota (3), Nebraska (4*), Wyoming (3), Louisiana (8), Texas (40), Ohio (17), Missouri (10), Montana (4), Utah (6), Idaho (4), Iowa (6), Kansas (6), North Carolina (BG-16), Georgia (BG-16), Pennsylvanya (BG-19), Wisconsin (10), Michigan (15), Maine (1*), Alaska (3), Arizona (11) and Nevada (6) called for Trump.

Vermont (3), Connecticut (7), District of Columbia (3), Maryland (10), Massachusetts (11), Rhode Island (4), Delaware (3), Illinois (19), New Jersey (14), New York (28), Colorado (10), California (54), Washington (12), Oregon (8), Virginia (13), Hawaii (4), New Mexico (5), New Hampshire (4), Minnesota (10), Nebraska (1*), Maine (3*) for Harris.

2 counties in PA have extended voting hours due to voting machine problems. 9:30 PM in one, 10:00 PM in the other.

Multiple precincts in Georgia have extended hours due to bomb threats.

Edit 03:09 PM Pacific Harris wins Guam.

https://www.guampdn.com/news/guam-picks-harris-over-trump-in-non-binding-presidential-straw-poll/article_657b06b8-9b97-11ef-9896-1302c4e2ebe9.html

This thread is for the Presidential election, my plan is to start marking wins as soon as they are called, sorted by time zone.

Some states are going to take longer than others. Polls generally close at 8 PM local time, but they can't start counting early/mail in votes until after the polls close.

Wisconsin in particular has an interesting system where ballots are collected by MUNICIPALITY, not precinct, they have over 1,800 ballot counting locations and don't report until ALL 1,800 are in.

https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/10/22/wisconsin-voters-election-milwaukee-security-denier

Currently 226 EC votes from Blue States:

4+19+10+7+3+3+4+10+11 +4+14+28+4+3+13+54+12 +10+5+8+6

NC called for Trump. -16 here, +16 to Trump.

GA called for Trump. -16 here, +16 to Trump.

PA called for Trump. -19 here, +19 to Trump.

AZ and NV both called for Trump, +11, +6

Which leaves 312 EC votes in Red States.

9+6+6+6+8+6+10+5+3+7 +3+40+30+11+8+17+9+11+4+3+4+4+3+16+16+19+11+6

270 to Win.

Online map here!

https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/

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2 AM Eastern / 11 PM Pacific
(D - 4 EC votes) Hawaii - Called For Harris

6 AM Eastern / 3 AM Pacific:
Guam - Harris 49.46% vs. Trump 46.22%
Northern Mariana Islands - Not voting for President.
https://www.guampdn.com/news/guam-picks-harris-over-trump-in-non-binding-presidential-straw-poll/article_657b06b8-9b97-11ef-9896-1302c4e2ebe9.html
Source for NMI not voting for President.
https://www.abc.net.au/pacific/programs/pacificbeat/pacific-beat/104547042

11 PM Eastern / 8 PM Pacific
(D 54 EC Votes) California - Called For Harris
(D 12) Washington - Called For Harris

I am extremely troubled for the future of America. Not because of the current election results; but that this many Americans think Trump was and will be a good president. It’s infuriating the amount of single issue voters there are in the US.
- It looks like people think Trump will fix the economy since that is the leading issue in exit polls. Massive trade wars are going to make the inflation of the last 2 years look mild. Americans are deeply stupid.
  
  Yeah it's daft.
  Every Trump voter interviewed says something like "yeah he's not perfect but I'm concerned about the economy".
  What they actually mean is that they have no idea how the economy works but Trump makes them feel better about hating minorities.
- this many Americans think Trump was and will be a good president.
  I think fewer people think this than think trump and his ignoring rules and laws is their ticket to power and influence for their cause and thing that trump is a means that is justified by the end.
  
  The funny part is that all but maybe a handful of those people are going to be the ones under the boot, rather than the one wearing it.
- I think we need to stop wondering why Republicans are doing so well and with that, lamenting that just over half of the ~~minority~~ voting population in this country will proudly vote for open fascists; stop imagining voters in the middle who are going to magically defect from the right if Democrats outflank them on the right's own invented issues; and start asking ourselves whose votes the Democrats are actually campaigning for if not ours.

RFK in charge of HHS and Leon in charge of gutting the new deal. Jesus Christ.
EPA gone.
Fight against climate change over.
SCOTUS justice Aileen Cannon.
No fault divorce gone.
National abortion ban.
Free speech destroyed.
Ukraine gone.
Gaza gone.
NATO alliance gone.
U.S. economy wasted.
U.S. military in the streets.
National concentration camps.
LOL. Wtf, Americans?

Pretty god damn sad that American are this fucking racist and stupid.

I can't believe we're a few votes away from having a stooge at the helm and an anti vaxxer as the head of the CDC and FDA.
This fucking hurts.
- And don't forget that Herschel Walker will be a DoD lead.
  
  I was trying to :(
- Yeah. But we need to squarely focus the blame on Harris, the campaign, the apologists who excused some of here deeply unpopular positions, and disallowed the dissent that tried to bring her to more popular positions.
  In the previous 6 elections, the candidate that ran as an anti-elite populist won.
  This will make 7 (if Trump wins).
  
  There's a lot of blame to go around.
  -Americans who tolerate and accept Trump's behavior.
  -Biden for not calling it sooner and letting a proper candidate emerge. Harris was the best at the last minute but there should have been actual primaries.
  -Harris for not swinging for the fences and playing it safe.
  
  What about the people that were protesting war crimes outside her rallies? No blame for them?
  
  I mean, Harris is in the unenviable position of having to get the support of both conservatives and leftists at the same time (because the democratic party is an awkward hodgepodge of much of what passes for the left in the US, people who mostly just want to not be discriminated against, and people who fundamentally are conservatives but feel like the republicans go too far or dislike their stance on one thing or another.) It is nigh impossible to not have some unpopular positions if you've got to try to maintain the support of groups of people that sometimes want mutually exclusive things, and can afford to lose neither, because no position in that instance is truly that popular.
  I know Lemmy likes to think that if she only adopted all of their positions, she'd win in a landslide, and if Lemmy was the electorate that'd probably be the case, but to be perfectly frank, I'm far from the most far left person I encounter here routinely, and I'm already in the position of not knowing a single other person irl that agrees with me on a number of my stances. The issue for Harris isn't that she tries to get votes from conservatives, she in order to win, she has to win some amount of them, the US is too conservative a country to avoid that, it's that at the end of the day, Trump has a cult following, and a lot of people that like him. He might seem "easily beatable" because he does crap that would sink someone else, but he really isn't, having that many motivated followers is a huge asset in elections.
  Isn't the blatantly obvious answer to "who is to blame for Trump getting elected?", assuming that he ultimately does, the people that voted for Trump?
  
  He went to black barbershops and McDonald's. Where the hell was she? I'm sorry, but this fucker was the most beatable candidate ever and it's close.
  That's fucked up.
  
  In reality it's both the campaign and the voters. But it's easier to just blame voters. Lemmy/Reddit will down vote anything that goes against that narrative: but as we just saw, Internet echo chambers do not determine reality.

Trump kills a million Americans with Covid and they put him back in office. Unreal.
- Not just that, part of his campaign message was "are you better off now than you were 4 years ago". 4 years ago was lockdowns and bodies being stored in refrigerated trucks.
  
  And buying toilet paper from the back of a scalpers Subaru.
- It is real though.
  You can't expect a society dominated by oligarchs (not just on an economic and political level, but more importantly the broader social conscious) to put up any effective challenge to an oligarch candidate.
  The lack of "on the ground" protest activities when that US abortion protection law was repealed is a perfect example.
  Doesn't help that the US opposition is largely corrupt as well.
- Hopefully he gets some more

Texas waited until the 29th of October to mail out my ballot. As of today (November 3rd), I have yet to receive it. I fully expect Texas to fuck me over.
- That's crazy late to mail it OUT. Too late even to mail it back. You'll have to either find a drop box or hand deliver it to county elections HQ.
  If you don't get it in time, you can always vote in person.
  
  I can't because I am currently out of state. I believe the cutoff is the post mark date. Still, if it doesn't arrive tomorrow, they fucked me...and my wife.
- Everything is rigger in Texas

Well damn. This is as much a referendum on the character of America. What a searing indictment that it's even close at all.
- This is as much a referendum on the character of America. What a searing indictment that it’s even close at all.
  Exactly. No matter who wins.
- I call it a general intelligence test for the nation .... and even before its over, everyone already failed.
  
  No, 50% of America failed the test. The rest of us did our part

Missouri passes a statewide abortion protection which will be overturned next year by the guy they voted for President.
Brilliant!

Goodbye Gaza... great work everybody! Also, this is shocking. 😐
- Goodbye Ukraine. Unless All of Europe Unites and militarizes, its over.
  
  Goodbye to the climate.
  Goodbye to NATO.
  Goodbye to US world leadership.
  Jesus Christ. What an epic disaster.

Put a fork in human civilization. It's done. The door is closed on climate change.
- Yeah, fuck. I just feel wrecked by this.
  
  Arm yourself. This is just the beginning.
- Not really. It's not good news for climate change, but global climate policy is not solely determined by the US presidency, and there are economic and technological forces set into motion already (like much cheaper solar) that mitigate the effect somewhat compared to what a global business as usual scenario would have been without them.
  That isn't to say that everything is okay, even an amount of climate change that doesn't pose much danger to the existence of future civilization still presents a personal risk to, well, everyone, due to increased natural disaster risk and such, but suggesting the door is closed on climate change is misleading; climate change is not a binary "it happens or it doesn't", it's a matter of degrees, and there are things that can influence it even without the US president on board. For threatening civilization itself, I'd say the bigger risk from Trump is the possibility that he get us into a nuclear war or something.

So this is what we are as a nation?
- Yes. Yes, it is.
  It's not what we want, but reality doesn't give a fuck about what we want.
  We have to get ourselves ready for the shit storm that's coming.
- When the going gets tough (and we all agree things are tough right now) you just need to appeal to fear and tribalism.
- 2 tickets with women for president 8 years apart, and we vote for the worst possible man for the job. This country is infested to its core with misogyny.
  Fuck
  
  I hate my gender so much. The world would be so much better without us.

Thanks America, for the hell you're about to unleash.

I have young kids.. My wife always asks me if bringing them into this world was a mistake. I was always the optimist telling her I didn't think it so. Now I don't know what to feel. What are they going to do... Ugh. This is a waking nightmare. I'm scared.

I knew Americans were questionable people, but I didn't imagine they would be this shitty. Jesus.
- Neither did Americans.

Wait until the FBI, IRS, and DOJ is weaponized against Trump's opponents. With Presidential immunity. Jesus Christ.

The rest of the world is watching, America.
Don't fuck this up.
- We already fucked up. The SOB should be nowhere near the candidacy, but here we are.
  Let's not fuck up more.
  
  Good point! Let me rephrase. 😁
  You've dropped the ball, America. Don't trip over it, faceplant and give yourself permanent brain damage.

8 PM Eastern / 5 PM Pacific
Puerto Rico - Nonbinding - Harris win.
United States Virgin Islands - Not voting.
(D 7 EC Votes) Connecticut - Called For Harris
(D 3) Delaware - Called For Harris
(D 3) District of Columbia - Called For Harris
(D 4) Maine - Called For Harris
(D 10) Maryland - Called For Harris
(D 11) Massachusetts - Called For Harris
(D 4) New Hampshire - Called For Harris
(D 14) New Jersey - Called For Harris
(D 28) New York - Called For Harris
(D 4) Rhode Island - Called For Harris
(D 3) Vermont - Called For Harris
(D 13) Virginia - Called For Harris
(R 30) Florida - Called For Trump
(BG 16) Georgia - Called For Trump
(R 11) Indiana - Called for Trump
(R 8) Kentucky - Called for Trump
(BG 15) Michigan - Called For Trump
(BG 16) North Carolina - Called For Trump
(R 17) Ohio - Called For Trump
(BG 19) Pennsylvania - Called For Trump
(R 9) South Carolina - Called For Trump
(R 11) Tennessee - Called For Trump
(R 4) West Virginia - Called for Trump

When the shit starts, America, don't forget he told you exactly what he was going to do. You voted for what's coming.

I think I need to stop following this at this point. I wish everyone the best.
- Yeah. Going offline for a bit.

- Very handy, thank you!

Whoever ran the Harris campaign on Reddit deserves their salary. That was an amazing echo chamber that had me fooled. I was expecting a blue wave better than Biden 2020. Too bad it doesn't translate into the election.
- Trump always overperforms. Even in 2020 he did better than he had any right to. This time there is no covid hanging over his head and Biden/Harris are taking all the blame for inflation.
  It also does not hurt that millions of Americans willingly consume hours of right wing propaganda everyday. Fox News remains one of if not the top cable channel (after sports) and Joe Rogan one of the top podcasts. Meanwhile CNN has shifted right, papers like the Washington post have been compromised, and the remaining “liberal media” is so obsessed with appearing unbiased that they end up “sane washing” GOP craziness and inflating minor democrat flubs.
- Biden 2020 was a nail-biter of a win and thus far I don't think any of the states he won have been called for Trump. But there being no surprises in the blue direction is not very comforting even if Harris does pull it out.
  
  unfortunately it is not looking good
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-president-forecast-needle.html
  
  Georgia just got called for Trump.
- Double standard. Trump wins 2016 and it's 4chan and reddit won it for him. Democrats finally get a clue 8 years later an start using social media but this time it doesn't factor.
- It was the same here. Moderation in this sub (to a lessor extent) and other subs (world, news, political_memes), cultivated a garden, through bans, to echo back to themselves the world as they expected to see it. Lemmy is just as knee-jerk delusional in its bans/ down votes as reddit. Dissent gets ignored and down voted. Facts are down voted. Legitimate criticisms are down-voted. All, down-voted into oblivion, because people want a comfortable lie more than an inconvenient truth.
  
  You picked up the wrong message if you think grandstanding about Palestine was going to have any effect on this election at all. A significant portion of this country has fallen to fascism already. We got a lot bigger problems to deal with than the protest vote about Gaza. This country is now a vassal state of Russia, and US hegemony has fallen to the same unitarian kleptocracy that defines the collectivist Eastern Bloc. Figure it the fuck out. War is coming. Decide which side you're gonna be on Komrade, or it will be decided for you.
  
  what specific facts were down voted?

+1 cat lady vote in Michigan!
.
(And I got their last cat sticker)
- that looks like something you'd see in a museum

It's game over if Michigan falls to Trump. Good job being mealy mouthed about genocide. We can't upset AIPAC can we?
- Gaza is definitely gone now. China probably moves on Taiwan. Ukraine is finished.
  
  Always has been.
- It's going to boil down to VA, PA, MI, WI, MN. A Trump win in any of them puts him over the top. Harris has to take all ~~five~~ four. VA just got called for Harris. 1 down, 4 to go.
  MSNBC called PA for Trump, that's it. It's over.
  But the "Anti-Genocide" vote in Michigan is not significant.
  Donald Trump 47,322,739 votes (52.5%)
  Kamala Harris 41,760,788 votes (46.3%)
  Jill Stein 334,826 votes (0.4%)
  Chase Oliver 334,504 votes (0.4%)
  Robert Kennedy 291,829 votes (0.3%)
  Other candidates 160,156 votes (0.2%)
  Harris is down 6 million. The other protest votes are 10% of that.
  
  When the "anti-genocide" people accelerated and intensified the outcome of the existing genocide by protest voting for spoiler candidates it is really hard to muster any sympathy.
  Sometimes you have to be willing to play politics in order to win at politics. Purity testing doesn't count for shit when the opposition is literally in favor of enslaving the entire human race for sport.
  Way to go! You really showed the lesser of two evils who's boss, while the ultra-nationalist psycopaths erradicate millions more innocent people. Nice fucking job 👏
  
  the county trends in swing states compared to 2020 are extremely discouraging.
  
  This makes the assumption that the protest vote went to Jill Stein.
  I've been saying the entire time that both of these candidates were in a race with the couch.
  Harris didn't give voters something to show up for. So they chose the couch.
- I think that Harris will take Michigan (Go Blue! literally), but I'm really afraid that it won't matter.
- It's at 33% counted right now
- Bruh there are already people in this thread trying to blame the people trying to say that her stance on genocide was losing this election.
  What a fucking disaster.

jordanlund is a Lemminal treasure. This thread needs to be pinned to the top of Lemmy (if that was a thing).

SCOTUS is gone for 40 years.
Death clock started for the New Deal.

So much for that Iowa poll.
- Knew that poll was a flaming pile of horseshit the moment it came out. Lady got lucky a few cycles in a row.
- Called it. It was ONE poll flying in the face of all the others.

Just listened to Selzer break down her methodology in clear, simple terms. I'm starting to think the polling error this cycle is pretty big, and Harris is going to win handily.
- God I hope so... The #1 problem with polling has been trying to determine who is or is not a "likely voter".
  We're seeing that in PA. 22 recent polls, 18 "Likely Voter" polls, meanwhile 100,000 new voters casting ballots early. New voters aren't counted as "likely".
- I've been thinking about this too.
  I've heard a lot of commentary about how polling has addressed the shortcomings of recent election cycles and that its more or less all fixed now. I do wonder though, there seems to be a heap of things that are very difficult to account for.
  For example, who's actually going to vote vs just intending to vote. For example the garbage thing has motivated a lot of people to get it done.
  Another is the late break. I think for a lot of people that just don't pay attention to politics, if you ask them 2 weeks ago they just haven't really thought about it - their answers are precooked from last cycle. As the big day comes around and people think about candidates, lots of traditional republicans voters will make a different choice.
  Also just generally with polls is the type of person that actually completes polls. Most people ain't got time for that.
  Of course I understand pollsters try to control for these things but as these problems stack up its easy to see how there can be some surprises.
  
  👍

Harris has ONE path to victory, ONE.
She has to win PA, MI, WI, MN.

Losing any one of those 4 states ends it.
MSNBC just called PA for Trump. That's it, it's over!

I did my part. You all need to get out and vote if you havent already.
I'm a little pissed off that our Election Officials were allowing Trump voters to wear hats and shirts while they were voting. But I guess they didn't want to chance the risk of these violent fuckers fucking up the voting.
- That's electioneering and not allowed.
  
  they've already been assaulting poll workers who asked them to remove their political stuff for voting.
  Remember, for some reason, society bends over backwards to make sure conservatives don't get held to the same standard as everyone else.
  Trump being the best example. Democrat who did one of the things he did would have long since been in jail.

“It looks like we have a very substantial lead,” said Trump after 6 votes were counted indicating a 3-3 tie.
https://apnews.com/live/trump-harris-election-updates-11-5-2024
- after 6 votes were counted indicating a 3-3 tie.
  A 3-3 tie where there were zero registered democrats (2 undeclared and 4 registered Republicans), meaning at best both undeclared and at least one registered Republican voted for Harris. At worst it means at least 3 registered Republicans voted for Harris.
  
  They all voted for Haley in the primaries and voted Joe Biden in 2020. So they are “new england republicans” not “trump republicans” ahah.

Remember; most mail ins are democrat. If it looks bad that's because we are not close to done.
- I am on edge and dooming. If Trump wins it's all over. I'll likely literally die.
  
  Get your favourite show on netflix and watch that. No point in giving yourself mini heart attacks every time a county with 15 farmer’s ballots get counted.
  
  My despair is through the roof right now. What a mess.
  I quite literally think I might have half a diazepam to get me through the next 6 hours or so.
  
  Go over to Reddit if you want to have a nervous breakdown. It's a complete shitshow over there at the moment.
  
  We still got mid terms and we still got 2028. And if it comes to it we still got violence
  
  Hey, you survived one trump term.
  
  It's truly terrible.
- Last election it 100% looked like Trump was going to win until the mail in dam broke.
- Are most mail in ballots democrat this year? I thought republicans were pushing that more with their base. But I don't know if they actually did it or if they voted more in person.
  
  They have been anti mail in for a long time and still are.
- How long before those are counted?
  
  It depends on the state. In some states, they're counted first, but some states do the opposite and some (NV) don't release any data until everyone is out of the poll lines. The final numbers will also vary since many states just require a post mark on or before election day - these "late" votes are counted last.
  
  No idea

NYT got me dooming. I think it’s time to pop a xanax and pretend everything is going to be okay while falling asleep.
- Welp.

MSNBC just called Pennsylvania for Trump. Good night everybody!

I have to say that the wording here feels oddly suspect. I have never gotten a sticker that said anything other than "I voted!" and it really concerns me about the subtle messaging here. I tried to make a separate post about it, but image posts aren't allowed apparently.
- God Republicans are such douchebags...
  
  I guess we should be happy that they didn't make it, "I made America great again!"
- https://www.atlantamagazine.com/news-culture-articles/why-do-georgias-voting-stickers-now-say-i-secured-my-vote/
  No real answers, but it's interesting
- Wow.

it is not looking good. i guess we in central europe better start learning russian 😔
- Their tech team is on strike so theres that at least...
- Y'all probably should've invested in your military instead of letting America foot the bill
  
  Sorry that we would rather have free healthcare and things like that, good luck!

With NC Called for Trump tonight, its time for us all to take a rest and sleep. NC was the early decision point. We all expected it to go Trump, but if it went Kamala then Trump basically lost.
Now that Trump is confirmed to win NC, its a long road until PA is called. And Kamala needs to win PA, MI, and WI all together. No point stressing about it now, just sleep and you'll know tomorrow morning for two of those three. And wait until Friday before PA is called (or later, if its really really close).
Staying up a bit longer to see how AZ goes is interesting but likely not too important anymore.
- the county trends in PA WI and MI compared to 2020 are looking bad. don't get your hopes up.
  
  Trying not to conclude this is over but... man. This is looking really over.

Trump is up 3,000,000 in the popular vote in reported precincts. That trend will not hold. Harris will flip that and then some.
- Unfortunately popular votes or the lack thereof don’t decide the election for either side.
  
  That's true but I think this statement is an indicator that this point in time was always going to be the gloomiest.
- NYT predicts a 0.5% Harris popular vote win based on model with current data. Hopefully it’ll be more.
  
  Not anymore

9 PM Eastern / 6 PM Pacific
(R 9 EC Votes) Alabama - Called For Trump
(R 6) Arkansas - Called For Trump
(R 6) Iowa - Called For Trump
(R 6) Kansas - Called For Trump
(R 8) Louisiana - Called For Trump
(R 6) Mississippi - Called For Trump
(R 10) Missouri - Called For Trump
(R 5) Nebraska - Called For Trump
(R 3) North Dakota - Called For Trump
(R 7) Oklahoma - Called For Trump
(R 3) South Dakota - Called For Trump
(R 40) Texas - Called For Trump
(BG 10) Wisconsin - Called For Trump
(D 19) Illinois - Called For Harris
(D 10) Minnesota - Called For Harris

82,000,000 people voted early. It’s ridiculous that the race doesn’t start with those votes counted and reported.
- Counting before polls close would influence voting. Even if it were "secret" you could publish fake leaks. It would devolve into a shit show of misinformation, even though we do have that already.
  
  Yeah but people definitely get influenced by the media reporting and the red states with earlier closing polls, it makes it seem like Trumps winning but it’s a toss up. A toss up is easy to influence if all you show is one side getting more electoral votes.

Georgia not looking great. Sorry friends I think we're cooked.
- Georgia only voted Blue once since 1996, it was never going to happen.
  
  2020 as well
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

I can feel the anxiety the entire way from the bottom of my stomach up to my throat.
- Starting to build for me
  
  It sucks so much that it's even a doubt

Leaving this here as a refresher for today...
Jimmy Carter: The U.S. Is an “Oligarchy With Unlimited Political Bribery”
https://theintercept.com/2015/07/30/jimmy-carter-u-s-oligarchy-unlimited-political-bribery/

Howdy, folks. First time doom scrolling? Enjoy the ride. I'm going to go work out and come back later

Fucking Dixville. You guys had no problem voting for Biden, but half can't vote for the colored lady. That's a bridge too far.
- 4 Republicans and 2 Undecideds.
  
  Wow. Actually, the fact that Harris won three from a crowd like that is pretty cool.
  
  GröpenFührer said he's going to use the military against the US citizens.
  That alone from all the crazy shit he's said should result in an immediate 6-0 vote for Harris.

God this hurts to watch right now. There's too many data points to comprehend but too few for commentators to tell me the trend.
- Just gonna put all my stuff under this comment so I don't spam this thread.
  The Australian Broadcasting Commission's live blog is pretty great:
  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-06/us-presidential-election-live-updates-kamala-harris-donald-trump/104546228
  
  More women fewer men
  
  Also younger voters:
  18-29 +3%
  30-44 +2%
  45-64 -4%
  65+ -1%
  
  Predictably, musk is pushing the "voter fraud in pensylvania" narrative.
  Thousands of accounts on social media platform X have been sharing this video as evidence of the "fraud" in Pennsylvania.
  But the footage is actually an old and widely debunked video of election workers in Arizona that was filmed in 2022 ahead of the US midterms.
  Reuters has previously reported that what the video actually shows is a "routine procedure to install memory cards into voter machines".
  Despite this, the video has already been viewed hundreds of thousands of times and reposted extensively.
  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-06/us-presidential-election-live-updates-kamala-harris-donald-trump/104546228?utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web#live-blog-post-132301
  
  The ABC's map is pretty good (live map):
- So far, no real surprises.
- I'm multi-screening about five different media sources and am letting you know that The New York Times just updated its live presidential forecast to predict a 67% chance of a Trump victory.
  The day started out with the NYT in a toss-up position, but as the count has continued, it has started to slowly creep towards Trump.
  Let's remember that many votes are yet to be counted and that in 2016, this same tracker at The New York Times was predicting a Clinton victory with 95% certainty.
  link

Fuck.

1 - 2 AM Eastern / 10 - 11 PM Pacific
(R 3 EC Votes) Alaska - Called For Trump

Thanks so much for doing this Jordan. You’re very appreciated!

10 PM Eastern / 7 PM Pacific
(BG 11 EC Votes) Arizona - Called for Trump
(BG 6) Nevada - Called For Trump
(R 4) Idaho - Called For Trump
(R 4) Montana - Called For Trump
(D 6) Utah - Called For Trump
(R 3) Wyoming - Called For Trump
(D 10) Colorado - Called For Harris
(D 5) New Mexico - Called For Harris
(D 8) Oregon - Called For Harris

this ain't happening folks. fuck.

I'm in Canada and anxiously following this dumb election ... mostly because I have to because whoever wins will affect my life too.
This is like watching my neighbours standing outside their burning house and having an argument about which fire department they should call ..... while the house fire grows in size. And the choices of fire departments is a regular fire department or the other department which is a bunch of guys in a half ton truck with buckets of water.
- and other department is a bunch of guys in a half ton truck with buckets of water.
  More like a bunch of guys actively pouring fuel on the fire while calling fire itself a "liberal hoax".
- Other dept is Gangs of NY firefighters.
  https://youtube.com/watch?v=e6eDVsl8Kp4
  
  lol

There's no excuse this time around. People know exactly who Trump is, and they have voted for him a second time.
I don't have much to say. I feel a mix of anger and disappointment.
Hopefully the Dems will be able to pick someone better to lead the party four years from now... I wonder what the world will look like four years from now.

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