For Agitprop purposes, I’m asking comrades to help aggregate any and all effortpost responses, critiques, or general thoughts that you have seen or written pertaining to yesterday’s U.S. election that you think have standalone value for discussion either online or IRL.
I made a post for that purpose here, and ideally it can be used not only for general discussion, but as a reference for well thought out responses in discussions about the election to save all of us some brainpower.
No shitposts please, as we’d like to highlight some comrades’ actual effort in constructing responses or analysis, but humor is 100% welcome to help make your point!
My final take on the election: We will be in the same country, in the same basic decline, arming the same genocide. The captain's hat can change heads, but it's the same sinking ship.
I think Kamala will win. If she doesn't, I'm going to rip on democrats super hard and pretend it was my doing, obviously, but when someone described her as representing the "Starmer-ization" of American politics that kind of clicked with me. Executing increasingly fascist policies with a liberal veneer seems preferable to capitalists compared to a more explicitly racialized and inwardly violent fascism.
I think blue facism gives them the dual advantage of pacifying the "soft-left" (small-L liberals, "progressives", SuccDumms -- a huge chunk of the politically active non-chuds) while pissing off the chuds so they swing extra hard to the right when they next come to power, which will in turn be normalized by the democrats as they perpetually "chase the dragon" of moderate republican voters and increasingly adopt right-wing framing of issues.
I think this allows the capitalists to create an environment increasingly hostile towards leftism, but without rocking the boat enough to trigger a meaningful antifascist backlash. Basically capitalism's own "boil the frog" approach.
Remember last election when, in the final days, biden promised a huge amount of student debt relief (he lied)
At least we got a fraction of the covid stimulus he promised (then he killed like a million people by ending lockdowns)
Now we get NOTHING, not a promise for climate change action, or healthcare reform, or the promise to do less genocide and war. Not even a promise to take executive action on women's rights (the senate isn't going to pass a bill, and I feel like everyone secretly knows this). Shit's bleak in burgerland
It would be so easy to win a national election against Trump. Watch. "I, your democratic candidate, pledge to fight the supermarket, pharmacological, and healthcare cartels that are artificially inflating consumer prices for their own gain."
this idea a candidate cannot fail, only be failed, is so fucking childish. you have to convince people to support your position, via policies you argue for in an attempt to win people over. you can only fail because either A) those voters were never going to won over to that position, or B) you made a shit argument for the policies. that's the supposed nature of how this whole liberal democracy thing is supposed to work on paper. remember that? the whole democracy thing these libs keep screaming needs to be saved? the principle of democracy is convincing voters to vote for you, not brow beat them into doing so
I see a lot of people here saying they dread getting blamed for Kamala losing, but isn't that the whole point? Isn't that what we wanna do anyway? Yeah, she lost our vote by supporting genocide and it sure looks like those votes would've come in handy. If the dems want to win elections they have to deal with the left as an organized voting block that's ready to call their bluff. If it's actually the left's fault she loses, that just means we're the ones they needed to listen to. Take it in stride.
If anything, the worst outcome here is that they conclude that moderate Republicans didn't vote for Kamala in enough numbers so the next time they should try going farther to the right. Many of y'all would actually rather see the blame get put on those people without seeing that the "blame" in this situation is actually a positive thing to get, because it gives you the stage to make demands if they want your vote next time around. Now's probably the time to preempt that and say that genocide is why she didn't get our votes and our votes could've swung it in her favor.
Elections are being held in the United States today, but there is no democracy in that country, the winner does not govern, the transnationals govern. Whoever wins, they will continue with the Monroe Doctrine, the Manifest Destiny and, above all, the so-called National Security Doctrine.
The peoples of the world, especially the new generations, must identify that the first enemy of humanity is imperialism.
From dropping out before the 2020 primaries began, to losing against a once-beaten septuagenarian when there were dozens of popular issues you could have championed, Harris truly embodies going from failure to failure and just causing massive problems wherever you go. She's just like me, fr fr. except for all the support of genocide and starvation and murder and bigotry and all that.
last year i was talking to my cousin and they told a story about their great uncle who was a about 7 years old in 1920 for the election and his dad took him down to the polling station to see the results. this was back in the day, you understand, and you'd have to go look at a chalkboard to see the tally. anyway my great uncle twice removed or whatever he is, he looked at the tally and then looked down at the kid and said, "they didn't count my vote."
"how do you know, dad?"
"because it says there's 0 votes for eugene debs!"
Kamala lost Dearborn which has a muslim majority. they cosigning Cheney and parading Liz cheney IN MI saying "hey I know these wars killing you in large numbers but my opponent will kill you faster."
Just put in my ballot for Claudia De La Cruz. Wrote in Joseph Stalin for all the local "entrepreneur vs cop" races, and voted appropriately on measures. Never gonna vote for a Democrat ever again.
Every so often I find myself thinking back and juxtaposing my current view of US electoral politics to how I felt on the day of the 2020 Nevada caucus. What a fucking radicalizing experience the 2020 primary was, and it becomes more and more radicalizing the longer time goes on and reveals to us none of it ever mattered.
Libs are so fucking entitled. It’s the tritest of observations at this point, but I have to make it clear, I don’t think they understand the state of play here. If you take off the third parties I write them in. If you take out write-ins I drop in a voided ballot. If you chain me to a chair until I fill out a bubble I’m hobbling forward until I can eat the fucking ballot right off the desk. If you put a gun to my head I might do it but you’ll have to keep putting that gun next to my cranium every four years and eventually I’ll just take the damn bullet if this is going to be the eternity. My position is clear and I am unreceptive to haggling. You have to play around me. I am not moving. What are you going to do about it? Get fucking real. Stop metagaming and play the damn game.
The midseason finale where Trump got shot and Biden dropped out was great, but everything since then has just been table-setting and I'm not sure the writers are going to be able to stick the landing. Kinda wish they'd just cancel the show already.
It’s actually hilarious how much kammy has failed upwards. From getting absolutely roasted in the primary last time around to president in one cycle. Supporting genocide really takes you places in the USA
Whose fault will it be this time? Russia? Iran? Palestine? China? Will the Dems just shrug their shoulders and say it's men or whites or farmers or whatever that are too sexist/racist/homophobic? It can never be their god awful strategies of offering black men crypto and weed, offering Arabs a Genocide Lite™ instead of Genocide Pro Max, offering nice deportation instead of evil deportation to Latinos, and offering nothing but scolding and contempt for poorer rural whites. There's much wrong with Americans, but the Democrats fucking suck at this.
The Uncommitted movement was bribed $400,000 from a Democratic Party PAC with the explicit agreement that in doing so it prevents the Uncommitted movement from endorsing anyone but Harris
What depresses me a bit right now is the fact that my feed on social media is full of posts from libs talking about resistance, organizing, hope. These are the same people that have been at brunch for four years straight, despite the genocide in Palestine.
And now I am painfully aware that all this is just posturing from them.
Holy shit, Kamala is losing badly. I guess don't betray your voters, scold them and attempt to appeal to gusanos and white supremacist that will never vote for you.
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Minimum wage and rent control are also losing. Increasing prison sentences is winning big.
It's early yet but if that's what it's like when Harris has 60% we're in trouble.
Edit: At 35% reporting, slavery's lead is down to 53-47.
I should have stuck with my gut and what it’s been telling me for the last couple of years: The Republican Party is a cockroach and the Democrats won’t be “replacing” them. Anyone who believed that drank the liberal Kool-Aid because of one good election yet again.
Also you aren’t being thrown into camps Jesus Christ. Idk what it is with Americans and these fantasies. It’s a hell of a lot worse in Guatemala and even we aren’t doing that shit. You don’t get the exciting WW2-era doomer world. Instead you get a boring modern one where legislative action is taken away gradually, making it all much more normalized.
Harris congratulates Trump, discusses peaceful transfer of power
bwaaaaaaaaaaaahaaahahahahahahahahaha holy shit she's congratulating the fascist existential threat to democracy for a good game and will peacefully hand over the keys to the white house she doesn't believe a single thing in this entire universe absolutely nothing!
Just wanted to say to all of the lgbtq folks here. I am so sorry that we let you down. None of you deserve this. You deserve love and acceptance not hatred and bigotry.
I hope you all find your safe haven and are able to enjoy all the great joys that life affords us. I know what I'm saying doesn't change anything, but I hope that it's at least a small comfort in all of you knowing that you matter.
"Sorry I'm fucking useless at preventing anything bad from happening. I vote so I've done my part. All I can do now is apologize."
Well it looks like genocide and "diet" fascism lost to genocide but faster and normal fascism. Here we go, sorry libs that i voted PSL in a solidly blue state
No matter what they tell pollsters, there is so much racism and misogyny in America that I'm going with Trump. Especially in places like Pennsylvania and Michigan.
Biden only beat him cause he was just another flavor of white guy.
Let chaos reign. Let the seat of the dark god of capital lose its mandate and plunge into political upheaval.
Anyway, share your favorite chaotic scenarios or predictions for the coming shitshow. I only remember one.
Trump wins the popular vote but loses the electoral college. This one is cool because the political parties have to flip their programming overnight about the electoral college and we get to see new brainworms develop for how the American democracy was corrupted (how can it be corrupted if it was always an oligarchic dictatorship of capital?).
Will there be recounts? How many states will have stop the steal rallies to intimidate poll workers in non-hwite areas? Will Biden declare martial law when returns on January 6th 2: January 7th? How racist will both political parties get when they lose? Find out next week on over the next week and stay tuned until the season finale on January 20th.
I can't be bothered to make a throwaway account to say specifically, but there was a ballot measure in my state that was the only thing I cared about. Something that would have done a lot of good, but it was voted down, and now otherwise preventable harm and suffering will be the result. I cannot express how fucking upset and angry I am. I truly have a deep loathing for Americans. Just the most selfish, incurious, puritan savages to ever blight the surface of the planet who would rather clutch their pearls than do anything that would help someone who isn't themselves. Death to fucking America.
Tbh I'm kinda happy with whoever loses. Liberals are skin-crawlingly disgusting, pretending they care about anything while endorsing genocide wholeheartedly. They deserve to utterly eat shit and face actual consequences for their gleeful slaughter.
On the other hand, chuds are so comically evil that it's hard to believe sometimes. They just genuinely believe that they are better than everyone and expect everyone to agree with them.
Ultimately, it comes down to who shits their pants hardest then they lose, and I honestly think the liberals would be funnier. Jan 6 was hilarious but will never happen again, Trump's energy has died down so much. But I really, really want to see liberal talking heads pissing and shitting on MSNBC about how the world has ended and democracy has died, only for Trump to be exactly the same as Biden. I want to see them say they're in the Resistance, which consists of posting epic dunks on Twitter and being racist.
No matter who wins, we all lose. But at least some of the losers will be very funny
Personally, I would have just not run a rabidly zionist and condescending campaign based on denying anything is wrong while increasingly ceding and more ground to the right
If we accept the axioms of the genocide calculus, it turns out that: |{ Americans | Americans who want to vote for 99% }| < |{ Americans | Americans who want to vote for 100% }| due to the Axiom of Americans Being Hitlerites Who Need to Imagine That They are Good People or something, idk I spend all day in Metamath and now my brain is melted
It kinda sucks that despite it being extremely obvious why Kamala lost, Democrats will learn nothing from this and push even harder right. I can't see a world where they ever admit that they went wrong.
CNN has a map up right now showing counties where inflation has outpaced wage growth and vice versa. 5 counties have had wages grow faster than inflation.
Guys they might finally be putting the pieces together.
Lmao someone in my class asked if this was the most polarized america has ever been and my prof pointed out that even before the civil war you had shit like bleeding Kansas going on
Hot take: the accelarationist will win. The accelarationist candidate is kamala. Things will keep getting worse, the Democrats won't get anything done, and this will take fascism into overdrive in the US.
Anyway if trump does end up winning it will be extremely funny.
People kinda told them to stop the Genocide, that killing people is bad, that unhinged bombing is bad, that arming "israel" is wrong especially in the middle of a Genocide, that maybe allying with iraq-war era people is not okay. People kinda warned them, but they didn't hear.
I just want things to change. I can't do four more years like this. At least Trump was called out for being shit, I feel like I am going crazy these days talking about being "nuanced" on genocide. Everbody thinks they're so damn clever, yet all the do is repeat what the TV tells them.
When Trump suggested "buying" Greenland from Denmark he was laughed out of the room, had it happened under the current administration it would probably have happened.
Imagine if Covid had begun under Biden. I don't know if there'd been a lockdown. If there'd even been an acknowledgement of a pandemic going on. Maybe there would've, but seeing how the west is just whipped under the US under the dems, and seeing how the dems are just as psychotic as the republicans... I dunno. We'll probably get a bird flu pandemic in the next four years. I wish there was some other maniacal steward that could be handed the reins to mister bones wild ride.
There's a meatgrinder going on in Ukraine and if you even suggest we might have had something to with it... The climate is fucked and now I gotta argue that nothing is being done because of [whatever the TV said this week]. Remember all those toxic rail chemical accidents? Things have only gotten more shit in the last 4 years, but dare suggest it and you gotta look at a graph held up by some dork who you gotta walk thru all the steps of basic cognition, before they'll concede that maybe things aren't doing so good.
I'm tired.
Prediction:
Kamala wins, but she gets impeached less than 2 years in. For some unexplained reason, her getting impeached will have actual consequences.
The Democrats have nobody to blame but themselves. You cannot beat Trump by running as a centrist and campaigning with Liz Cheney. You give people nothing. You promise healthcare reform and student debt relief and then don't do shit.
There's a reason Trump's "drain the swamp" lies work so well. People know both parties are controlled by their corporate owners, and they're sick of it. Trumpism has it's roots in disaffected working class people, they've just been convinced minorities are to blame for the faults of capitalism.
When material conditions worsen, people are more likely to embrace fascism, especially when there's no alternative but the status quo. If they had let Bernie run in 2016, he would've beat Trump then. But no, the Dems love the status quo, they love their corporate owners, and most of all they love genocide. End the Demokkkrat party.
People are rightfully criticizing Kamala for running a dogshit campaign but not enough people are criticizing Skibidi Biden. What has he done as a president for the past 4 years to make living in America less miserable? Why would anybody vote for 4 more years of doing jack shit while the conditions are getting worse?
"Look, I can admit it. We live in a democracy and Americans want Trump/ Republicans to have free reign. I'll hope for the best. Won't be protesting or organizing either. I'll just enjoy my money and privilege and a government that will now cater to me.
I do fear that the results will be very bad for the people that voted for it. But the people have spoken. God speed."
You've done it, you've broken liberalism down to it's bare essentials (courtesy of r/politics once again)
Normally not much a chatter but need to vent. I don't even live in a swing state. I'm in as firm a blue state as you can get. Yet my family still feels the need to get mad at me for voting Claudia. As if there's some invisible number you have it hit and then the liberal fairy will give you good boi points.
At least voting PSL eases my conscience a little. If I voted Harris and she still loses I would not only contribute nothing to that result. But then I'd feel shit for voting for the genocide enabler.
No media or internet, and no active engagement in IRL discussions about politics, starting from next week, until you find out who the winner of the US elections is.
Those who make it to the end of the month without knowing get a gold star.
Whoever wins will have an assassination attempt within a month but due to the decrease in quality of USAmerican assassins over the years, they will miss and hit a secret service agent or something
I’ve been watching election coverage since about 7pm. Five and a half hours now. Not a single mention of Palestine as a factor. Not one. Pretty easy to see why Americans are so unbelievably brainwashed when this slop is what passes for news coverage.
President Maduro: I've been asked a lot, 'What’s better for Venezuela? A Trump win or a Harris win? I say whoever wins, what's better for Venezuela and Latin America is to have our own path, not depend on anyone, is to guarantee our countries."
I know people are kind of enjoying schadenfreude here, but it is alarming how many liberals are just going mask off in their tantrum against ethnic minorities in the US, and just brazenly expressing not only depraved indifference to Palestine/Gaza but active contempt and hatred of them and their sympathizers which liberals blame for losing the election. Their coping mechanisms are devolving into *maybe we shouldn't protect trans people, immigrants, BIPOC. PEP is also clearly the right choice."
I felt like our secret shared hope was that liberals would somehow rediscover their affection for organizing, protesting, canvassing for causes, but AOC encapsulated it in her video about #resistance being ceremonial and performative bullshit.
Life is going to get worse, and I'd be fooling myself to declare that the difference between a Harris defeat from a victory is the normalization of reactionary politics.
It just stings differently because in 2016 there was a vague hope, given Sanders' campaign and reinvigoration of socialism/leftism, that life did not have to be that way.
I expected the chuds to come in here and gloat, you'd be doing the same thing if Harris had won. But the crying and pussyaching from all you libs is embarrassing. Politicians aren't going to save us. Go talk to your neighbors, get involved in your community. Buy a 3D printer and make untraceable ghost guns, distribute them to the unhoused. Start a garden. Organize. Do anything besides punching down and to the left.
I'm curious how much the libs (will) have down-voted this, but I don't care enough to hang onto or find the comment past the vote visibility cool-off period. Reddit is such shit.
Alright, I’m heading to bed. I’ll miss the results, but when I wake up, I want the U.S. empire gone and every fascist brought to justice. It’s been good here, and I feel a strong connection to all the comrades in the U.S. who have to witness this going down. Stay strong. Solidarity and love.
I think when Trump said "Just vote this time, after this election you will never have to vote again" just meant that he doesn't care about the next elections and want people to vote for him now, and he doesn't mind if they don't even bother to vote for the next Republican candidate lol
That Selzer lady does have a good track record and it seems like a convincing narrative that pollsters mega overcorrected towards Donnie for fear of underestimating his performance a third time.
Plus I think it fits with the American political tradition of "unprecedented yet boring". Dems pulling off an unheard of mid-race switch, winning, and then governing in a dreadfully milquetoast fashion just to lose to the 2028 competent fascist MAGA inheritor feels apropos.
So depressing seeing staunchly pro-Palestine people on social media obsess over the election results and wish for a Kamala win. Like take the fucking flag out of your bio asshole
Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:
“It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”
This is so funny, this fucker is about to win again. I genuinely thought that it was joever for him in the last few days, but you can never count him out. God I will enjoy the meltdown so much, I hope that the Dems lose PA by the exact number of Jill Stein votes just to laugh at them even more.
I say I don’t care about this election, but living in the heart of the great satan and hearing everyone talk about it, it’s hard not to be at least a little interested in the results.
How I feel about it seems to be completely dependent upon the last person I talked to. After Kamala announced her candidacy I was going hard on my anti-kkkopmala shit since the libs were being so completely insufferable. Now that things have calmed down a bit and I’ve gone back to my normal state of having to deal with chuds constantly, I’m more inclined to hate Trump more since I would just relish the chance to see these people eat shit a second time. Bonus would be seeing Elon’s meltdown in real time. Lucky for me it’s pretty much 50-50 and could go either way!
I'm glad to see PSL, the Green Party, and Cornel West are all collaborating. I don't think I've seen major third-party campaigns explicitly support each other like this in the past. Obviously it won't change the outcome of the election at all, but for people like me, where I had to vote for Stein since Claudia and Karina (as well as Cornel West) got removed from the ballot in Georgia, it's helpful to see there's at least a similarly-aligned option
well, my plan was to just go to sleep once it became clear that Harris was gonna coast to victory, but now it looks like the Democrats might well be on their second once-a-century fuckup in a decade, so I can't look away
Welcome to our non-stop election coverage we will be speaking into this camera nonstop for the next 24 hours not a single space no full stops barely any grammar at all just non stop live election coverage we break now to my colleague Julia Julia what are you seeing where you are thanks Greg what an exciting day and we are seeing lots and lots of excitement and energy about our non stop election coverage ok thanks Julia now to Raymond who has prepared some visuals for us thanks Greg as you can see in this chart our coverage is truly non stop and if we run the simulations now these are very early numbers less than 1% into our non stop coverage but we are already seeing one minute and if coverage continues this way over the next 24 hours then our coverage will be truly non stop but there are some very important hours still to come so we will have to see if this trend continues that’s amazing to see thanks Raymond isn’t great to have some maths nerd in a bow tie explain some little pie charts to us it’s really shaping up to be a tight race can our coverage really reach 24 hours? Whoa I need to interject there Greg because that question mark while grammatically required in that instance was some punctuation and I think that might represent a real turning point in this race as some might see that as an early sign of this being an unsustainable exercise and frankly I think our audience are already getting tired of this bit well now just wait a bit Bill we will come to you soon but I’m hearing that Julia has another update for us, Julia?
These bloodthirsty democratic party shitheads let Netanyahu lead them into a genocide and destroy their chances of winning key states. Amazing. Fuck these evil incompetent freaks.
at Howard University in Washington, D.C., Ms. Harris’s historically Black alma mater where thousands of her supporters had flocked for her own event, a crowd that started the night cheering and dancing fell eerily silent as North Carolina was called for Mr. Trump.
“You won’t hear from the vice president tonight,” one of her campaign co-chairs, Cedric Richmond, told the thinning crowd at about 12:45 a.m.
My turbolib natohawk dad just went "keep your bags packed and money in your wallet in case you have to leave, the biggest shithead has just become the leader of the world" regarding Trump getting elected.
We are in Finland... wtf does he think is going to happen? How are these people real? How are these people this gone that they think the US president is the leader of the world. Unless they only count the west as "the world" (I assume it's this).
I didn't want to stir the pot by asking if nato is still a good idea or where he thinks we should go, Russia? Lol
The funniest part is that Trump is gonna end up getting roughly the same number of votes he got last time. Dems just had 10-15 million people not show up. Wonder why...
Liberals coming to terms with bidens legacy going to shit. All the good they think he did will be torn by trump. Their parasocial relationship with this fart had them call him the most progressive president but all he'll be remembered for was being at the helm of a genocide and his brain turning to mush while epstein buddy felon took over.
all those articles from months ago that were like "it's really strange how Americans seem to think the economy is bad when it's actually really great and awesome. what could possibly be the explanation? republican media? brainwashing? have they just not been told that the economy is good? are they spoiled from all the money we gave them during the pandemic?" are extremely funny in hindsight.
political analysts spent years of their lives in the best universities; now baffled at the fact that the area under the curve of an inflation graph is more important than whether the curve is going up or down, and whether wages outpace that inflation. calculus makes fools of us all, I suppose. so as much as I wish that Harris would have lost solely on the basis of pro-Palestinian voters (this would be the best possible timeline out of all the horrible ones where Trump wins), it might in fact just be the economy, stupid
My trans partner is voting for the first time since like 2016 or something, naturally scared of Project 2025. Naturally I have some sympathy for people in a more vulnerable spot, but I'm obviously getting a wall when I mention how Kamala is already giving trans people the cold shoulder.
538-type redditors gooning over this Ann Selzer poll showing Harris at +4 in Iowa because her predictions have been within like 1 points of the actual result for the past few cycles.
Obviously that kind of performance would be insane so I don't see it happening. But I wonder if it's a sign that her odds are better than those currently represented in the polls and prediction models
If Kamala loses, I actually don’t think them blaming the left is gonna work. She went so unabashedly hard right in the campaign, and she was doing so well when she let Walz do his thing. Then she inexplicably made Liz Cheney her de facto VP and started talking like an open fascist.
I don’t know if we can pin it all on Gaza, but I do think the only conclusion anyone will be able to come to is campaigning to the right of Biden was terrible.
Thew only good thing that happens during elections is once in a while you see a former BlueMAGA no matter who account standing on top of a T-34 waving the red banner and it's like "Wow, they can learn."
I really want the Dems to suffer for pushing genocide. But I know in the end they will just blame leftists and third party voters and not learn their lesson.
Consider the fact that from 1980-2016 (the era of neoliberalism), every president other than Bush Sr was a two-term president (and Bush Sr really was just Reagan’s third term). Then from 2016 on not only do we have single-term presidents, but we are switching parties each time.
Conditions are degrading and the nation that believes the only solution to problems is to vote is trying to mash the buttons to make things better
For chud-brain dumbasses, Trump's Napoleon Arc is genuinely inspiring. Incredible persistence and lack of loser energy, he just refuses to permanently fuck off. We truly need leftist Trump, an annoying showman dude that never shuts up
I do think Kamala is gonna win, because the abortion ban has been an (undeserved) boon to the demoncrats. Men can’t even wipe their ass, and Trump expects them to hand him the election.
Realizing that Trump's worst policies will be things that the Supreme Court would have done anyways under a Democratic president who wouldn't have lifted a finger to reign them in or diminish their power to govern.
Also it can't be overstated that the worst case scenario for Gaza is that Trump continues Biden's policy on Israel.
I have to ask, if Trump is such a threat to the very democracy of this country why is he allowed to even run? The president was given the power to do anything they want and could have jailed him by now. What gives?
Tomorrow morning Phillie, Atlanta, and many other cities in swing states will turn in their vote counts. Kamala will be ahead by a razor thin margin. Trump will make an attempt to openly and nakedly steal the election, but JD Vance will assassinate him at the last moment to stop the steal. Kamala will give him the presidency to honor his act of selflessness. His first act as president is to nuke Tehran.
I'm genuinely wondering a bit if pollsters are so terrified of losing their legitimacy any further that they're decided to just weigh the polls to roughly 50/50. Like they do have to do some math to try to guess what demographics are less likely to answer polls or whatever but after 2016 and 2020 the process probably looks insane.
The libs are getting creepy with it folks. Yesterday someone came to the door and asked for me specifically, then asked who I was voting for? Thankfully I wasn’t the person who answered the door so I didn’t have to answer them. The postcards were weird (I also got one) but this is just creepy. I really regret changing my registration to Democrat for like one month in 2020 to vote for B*rnie
“Watch as we at US left wing news go to a local university to ask young voters about who they’re voting for.
We will be sure to avoid questions related to corporate capture, inflation, exuberant costs of living, rising costs of education and the US’s role in an active genocide.”
CNN released its first glimpse of the 2024 election results a little after 5 p.m. ET Tuesday. Exit polling is expected to shift throughout the night as more responses are collected.
In the poll, 43 percent of voters said they are "dissatisfied" with "the way things are going in the United States." Another 29 percent said they feel "angry."
You'd think after 236 years of pointless voting, everyone would have learned their lesson.
When the future histories talk about the fall of the American Empire I believe the first half of the 21st century will be talked about like we talk about Rome’s crisis of the 3rd century. A military, economic, and political collapse.
Militarily: Pulling out of Afghanistan, eating shit in Ukraine, one of the poorest countries in the world (Yemen) giving the most power navy in human history a black eye, and directing a genocide in Gaza
Economic: neoliberalism cannibalized the US productive economy so on-paper economic growth driven by people derivatives on ice cream cone sales.
Political: A democrat will win in 2028. Because we’re now in the terminal decline where everything just gets worse every year. Americans don’t know how to process this so they just blame the president. Obama is the last 2 term president the US ever has.
Oh r/neoliberal is glorious, they're tearing each other to pieces in there. They're turning on Biden, on Kamala, on Zelesnky, on each other. Nothing is sacred to them anymore. Honestly I have hope for a few of them to learn something
Oh so now that Trump won Gaza & Ukraine is fucked? It was going well before? WW3 could happen? Biden was the peacekeeper of the world or what? absolute wankers they live in an alternate reality
It never ceases to amaze me just how unbelievably incoherent the political opinions are of like 95% of this country. It really is on full display right now. Social media is unbearable. Left leaning people from all walks of my life who I thought would at the very least have to see past a little bit of Kamala and the Dem’s bullshit, just a liiiittle bit, are like no “the choice was between a queen and a monster and y’all chose monster” etc. Almost every person in my life has no genuine understanding of what it is they are experiencing or talking about. No curiosity to try to unpack anything. Critique and evaluate the information they are presented with. And honestly worst of all is that everyone is still, STILL, AFTER YEARS OF THIS CONSTANT CONFLICTING SHIT, at their deepest level, above all patriotic to this country. It’s lazy, pathetic, immoral, and deeply embarrassing. 95% of 330 million people, just outright propagandized zombie narcissists who have no fucking clue what they’re saying
Just voted PSL. Had to write her in, but now I'm second guessing whether I did it right. Last name was supposed to be first? I just wrote Claudia De La Cruz.
I don't think anything, shall we say, "exciting" will happen, regardless of the result. 2020 was far more tense. Everyone seems so exhausted this time around.
An important part of your leftist journey is deciding which obscure definitely not marginalized regional group you're going to be really really unreasonably racist about.
last minute "funniest outcome" attempt: electoral draw, all four of Trump, Harris, Vance and Walz successfully assassinated by suspects known to the FBI within 48 hours, Joe remains president
The Palestinian will achieve liberation through weapons and violence against the settler colonial state of "israel" and their allies the United States, whatever happens with the elections.
I've seen so many libs now going "latino men voted for trump cause they're too sexist to let a woman lead" and wishing for their deportation while ignoring many latin american countries have had female leaders, currently Nicaragua does and Mexico literally elected one earlier this year but nah its latino men who are all sexist pigs, definatly not kamala bragging how she deported more immigrants than trump ever did or how the border wall is actually based lmao
“The outcome of this election is not what we wanted, it's not what we fought for, it's not what we voted for, but listen to me when I say: the light of America's promise will always burn bright,” Kamala Harris told supporters at Howard University on Wednesday.
“We must accept the results of this election,” Harris told the crowd. “Earlier today, I spoke with President Trump and congratulated him on his victory. I said that I would help him and his team in this transition, and that we will engage in a peaceful transfer of power,” She added.
Liberals on multiple occasions have quoted Malcolm X on social media in relation to pro-Kamala sentiments or disheartenment about her loss, and it's enraging me how many don't recognize the irony. Some of these libshits are white, and that makes it doubly ironic, but this particular post is by a black woman:
Caption:
Today, I have no words—only tears. Tomorrow, I’ll find some. The next day, I fight.
I'm split on who wins. For a long time I leaned Trump, but these recent days... I think the dems might actually pull off the mythological "moderate" republican. Trump is weird, JD Vance is weird, Elon is incredibly weird, they're all cringy and Kamala is worse than most republicans, so maybe she gets them. On the other hand she loses a large amount of voters the dems take for granted, on account of her being a republican now.
I dunno.
A bunch of "leftist" streamers are fearmongering about Trump at the last second. I think this is maybe the first time I've removed a post by Good Politics Guy from /r/BreadTube, because he's suddenly discovered that Trump is a Epstein-adjacent child molester and is fine with murdering journalists, and GPG is now screaming about Trump "ending our democracy". Asleep at the wheel until two days before the election? WTF?!
I legit have people in my life who are taking this shit so seriously (and giving themselves anxiety in the process), and I’m honestly not sure how to respond. They genuinely believe that Kamala is a much lesser evil and will protect them more, and I don’t know how to tell them that’s absolutely delusional.
Also worth mentioning how funny/bonkers it is that we don't know who wins on election night. Because the other team brings in rules lawyers to make the bean counters double count and triple count the beans because reasons. While in other countries they know like an hour after the polls close.
Please consider helping out two comrades in Palestine! 🇵🇸
At Bluesky the mood was positive and optimistic as recently as this morning. That's gone. They're (very) worried.
she can absolutely still win via the blue wall but just for fucking once I would like to be pleasantly surprised by results with Trump on the ballot and once again it's worse than expected and I am fucking tired of it
I thought the presidential results would be contested for days or weeks and maybe the SCOTUS GOP judges would override the vote and give him the presidency. But Trump might just win it outright in ~6 hours or whatever. Sooner?
Once again, liberals are trying to blame George Bush on third party voters, ignoring the fact that the Supreme Court stole the election (and they let them get away with it).
I vooted. Scratched one in for Claudia and a couple Greens for House/Senate. Wait was longer than usual. I think they combined a couple extra precincts into this polling place. Took about 25 minutes in total, but the line was probably twice as long when I left vs. when I got there.
Stopped at the liquor store on the way home, and as I was leaving I passed the cashier in line. Atmosphere was rather mellow. Lots of people brought their kids. From the vibes, you could hardly tell this is the last election in history.
You want the election to be over so you can go back to brunch. I want it to be over so I don't have to hear about this bourgeois farce anymore. We are not the same.
very excited and honoured to vote in the last free elections, 250 years it been a great run. I’m still ridin with Biden but good luck to all candidates, and god bless America
I guess at the end of the day it’s all just purchasing power. Cuz even though the economy is killing some metrics, people can’t spend like it’s 2018 and so it’s “bad”
At least we won't have to deal with NATO anymore 🤷
Dems held on to anti-racism too long after the last election. They weren’t going to win voters by letting the far-left call every white person a racist, even people who were sympathetic to the cause. Best to just unify people and not listen to the far-left
The thing that bothers me is the Republicans aren’t going to meaningfully change anything.
Kamala ran a picture perfect campaign besides maybe foreign policy, anti-incumbency is a hell of a drug I guess.
Tonight might literally be the death of the neoliberal world order.
Bright spot for this sub, Hillary is no longer the worst performing candidate vs. trump
I had hoped that third parties would get a larger share of the vote this time, but from what I can tell, they did rather poorly. Honestly more disappointing than the actual result
I'm having a lot of morbid fun right now sorting /r/politics posts by "controversial". The mods there are obviously having trouble keeping up with their usual censorship duties. There's a lot of leftist-perspective truth being spoken.
really was a terrible candidate, all they could say was ”Black South Asian president #girlboss”, no substance other than ”the genocide will continue and here's Dick Cheney”.
Who could've predicted that a right wing ghoul campaign including muh border wouldn't appeal to anyone?
it's looking like Nebraska might simultaneously guarantee abortion to viability (up ~10 points) and ban abortion after the first trimester (within a point). Voters are so fuckin stupid
Significant piece of data coming from early exit polling. Trump is up by 11 points with independents in Georgia, according to the initial exits. Biden won independent voters by 9 points in Georgia. That's a big swing.
Watching this Godamn fucking election coverage on the mainstream press
The “analyst” clearly showed how Kamala Harris can lose if she doesn’t get enough votes in one key state, though the numbers in question showed millions more votes than Trump
What is wrong with the average person that they continue to stand by this bullshit? Fucking rubes
Won’t someone spare a thought for those criminal prosecutors who spent thousands of man-hours and spent millions of dollars to not convict only for the charges to slide right off Teflon Don?
i'm feeling bad for any of the poor souls who are getting their hopes up over the election. i did that once, long ago and i have learned my lesson and am now old and bitter. and particularly given the participants in this election i'm genuinely just so checked out. not even my country. but the whole world goes insane each time.
At this point dems are putting women out there on purpose to lose so people get this idea that women can’t run anything. I literally can’t think of anything else, how the fuck do you lose the POPULAR VOTE???? THE FUCKING POPULAR VOTE
I know this is petty, but if Trump ends up winning I'm going to troll reddit libs for like a solid week about how Putin is now in command of the country.
Bluesky libs sure didn't complain about this before the election. I'm not exaggerating that this moment of clarity post made me laugh pretty hard for more than five seconds.
sure doesn't feel like "let's run for the Reasonable Moderate Republican Vote" worked out real well, huh
Fuck I woke up, saw the results and just realized I'm gonna have to deal with my lib civility teachers today. I'll just keep like a running tally of what identities I hear being blamed for kamala losing