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    1. China had a 460million population and 33 year lifespan when the revolution began. It's current modern day living standards, population size and lifespan is a direct result of Mao.
    2. Harvard Study directly contradicts everything this user just said about Chinese not being able to think critically, in fact Harvard says the reason 95% of Chinese support the government is because they brought real material improvements consistently that they have all lived through.
    3. Claiming they can't innovate is just racism. They are leading the world in research papers.

    • Nono us university are filled with chinese scientist because they cheated to get in there or they were outliers who were so desperate to escape the US

    • Many of us cannot attest to this because we have not lived it, but, if you go to China right now, and meet an old man in his 80's, they can tell you where they were at, materially speaking, back before and after the revolution, and how much their lives in 1 lifetime, have improved. These people are still alive to tell the world their story, which is the second greatest story of human development since the Soviet Union.

  • You don’t have to imagine. Without Mao, China would be like India.

    They both had been through a century or more of oppression and/or colonization resulting in the complete destruction of their economy, literacy, health etc. In 1947 and 1949, they were in very similar conditions.

    And look at the difference between the two since then.

    So, you don’t have to imagine. The world would be worse off. Now, if you had a Red India…

    • In 1947 and 1949, they were in very similar conditions.

      Not true. India was in a much better state well into the 70s, inheriting a lot of the British built infrastructures, and was able to trade with both the East and the West. Whereas China was completely war torn, and for a time, isolated.

      Even though the PRC was proclaimed in 1949, the CPC at the time only controlled half the nation. Fighting with KMT and its aligned warlords on the mainland continued until the mid 50s, with smaller pockets holding out for several more years after. And not long after that, the Sino-Soviet split happened, compounded with the already placed US led sanctions, China was basically cut off from the rest of the world for nearly two decades. The fact the CPC was able to turn their fortune around and become an emerging super power is an amazing feat.

      India more or less squandered its head start with its incompetent government, and it has only gotten worse post 90s with it fully embracing neoliberalism and religious fanaticism.

      A Red India, would probably have seen the bigger picture and accepted Zhou Enlai’s border agreement, preventing future conflicts, and China would have been able to skirt the economic and technological sanctions via India, saving some hardships of the 60s and 70s.

      Both nations would be more prosperous today, perhaps even tipping the scale a bit, preventing the Soviet collapse.

  • Oh no what a fucking tragedy for mankind that the people of China live in a place where they actually have a positive outlook on the future.

    Meanwhile I literally cannot even imagine the sensation of societal optimism.

  • Think of the advancements and innovations which could have come from China over the last 70 years but haven't

    OH MY FUCKING GOD SHUT UP

    Just because your stupid ass doesn't read about out on BBC or Forbes, or whatever the fuck rag you read doesn't suddenly change reality. I resent these people, and the worst part is I have to deal with them IRL, and they are always so fucking wrong and so sure of themselves. Always with their bullshit on how "free" and "enlightened" they are, unlike those poor, but also very evil, and scheming [slur] [slur] [slur] who live stuck in an echochamber devoid of the joys of life.

    If only those "white mans burden" fuckers could stop existing suddenly I'd be over the moon.

    EDIT: Also this person ought to be employed by a fucking cinema. That is some powerful projecting.

    • A few months ago they used genetic engineering to cure a guys diabetes, meanwhile we just keep innovating new ways to give people diabetes

      I've gone through some lists of biotech patents and China is also by far the most advanced player in the skin and flesh transplant game. They've even worked out how to essentially drain the DNA from pig heart valves, leaving an empty extracellular matrix that can be recolonized by donor cells and made transplantable. Now they're starting to replicate these neutral matrices with 3d printing. Practically every single research paper I can find from the last ten years on cellular reprogramming, rejuvenation and age reversal includes a Zhang or a Zhao in the authors section.

  • If it wasn't for Mao, the Chinese would've pioneered interstellar travel through the invention of the first starship capable of FTL travel where they would've found the fountain of youth in some distant galaxy, curing cancer in the process. Feel stupid yet tankie?

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