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Eighteen treated for severe nausea in Stuttgart after opera of live sex and piercing

www.theguardian.com Eighteen treated for severe nausea in Stuttgart after opera of live sex and piercing

Florentina Holzinger’s bloody Sancta was criticised by Austrian bishops and is now a sellout in Germany

Eighteen theatregoers at Stuttgart’s state opera required medical treatment for severe nausea over the weekend after watching a performance that included live piercing, unsimulated sexual intercourse and copious amounts of fake and real blood.

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Eighteen treated for severe nausea in Stuttgart after opera of live sex and piercing

www.theguardian.com /world/2024/oct/10/18-treated-for-severe-nausea-in-stuttgart-after-opera-of-live-sex-and-piercing

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Eighteen treated for severe nausea in Stuttgart after opera of live sex and piercing

www.theguardian.com /world/2024/oct/10/18-treated-for-severe-nausea-in-stuttgart-after-opera-of-live-sex-and-piercing

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18 treated for severe nausea in Stuttgart after opera of live sex and piercing

www.theguardian.com /world/2024/oct/10/18-treated-for-severe-nausea-in-stuttgart-after-opera-of-live-sex-and-piercing

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The version that unsettled audience members in Stuttgart this year supplanted the original musical performance with naked nuns rollerskating on a movable half-pipe at the centre of the stage, a wall of crucified naked bodies and a lesbian priest saying mass.
Lmao, that’s great. I almost suspect the cases of severe nausea to be press baiting, it’s just a little too good.
- The person announcing that people needed medical care is the spokesperson for the play. Very obvious PR bait.
- I wish they weren't all sold out, I kinda want to see it now. It's working! 😂
  
  If you're ever in NYC just go to The Box. You'll see the same exact shit, literally.
  Though expect to pay $2000 for tickets at 1am on a Wednesday night because the venue solely exists to milk rich people
- "Ok Morty, fuck it, I'm doing an opera. It's gonna have.... uh... naked ladies, a lot of fake blood (some real blood), piercings, nuns getting shwifty, and a FUCKING HALF PIIIII- belch -IIIIPE!"
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  Beautiful! I kept up the whole time and got the joke!

Good technique in dance to me is not just someone who can do a perfect tendu, but also someone who can urinate on cue,” Holzinger told the Guardian in an interview earlier this year.
Just your average choreographer 😄
- "To me, a good dancer is someone who can urinate on cue"
  Wtf dude
- Very good splits Hazel, now shit on Julia's chest. I said give Julia a Cleveland Streamer!!!

A friend of mine has a condition that can easily cause him to pass out from seeing blood, or indeed picturing blood in his mind. I remember us listening to a guy talking about a surgery he had recently gone through, one that involved fixing an artery, et voila, my friend suddenly passed out.
My only point being that some people can be very sensitive, and my buddy would've no doubt spent a performance like this drifting in and out of consciousness.
- That's terrible but also very useful to get out of uncomfortable situations
  
  Its actually his superhero power
- I have friends like this and with my lifestyle and history of emergency response, I can't fathom it. Apart from trained hygiene precautions, my brain just never reacts to blood apart from it being an indicator of the next actions to take to keep as much of it inside as possible. I've had a shower off a firetruck to get blood off—clothes ruined, still washing blood out of my hair once I got home—but training kept those two alive in time for paramedics to arrive. That's all my brain thought about. They found out and my buddy and I got a call from the hospital to meet them ♥️
  But then I have another friend that gets queasy seeing a scratch and has passed out from a needle...
  Some of us just have very different survival instincts. Fight or flight seem to both work very well so long as you're one of the other. But they certainly can't understand each other.
  
  I had a friend in high school who got squeamish at the sight of blood, or at least that's what we all thought. She went on to become a surgeon. Turns out, it's the idea of people being in pain that got to her. Operating on someone who's out cold was absolutely fine even if they're gushing blood all over the place, because they can't feel it.
  
  I used to think the cause of this was something about how you were raised or how repugnant any discussion of bodily fluids or medical stuff was in your childhood. Some of my friends can't handle talking about any medical procedure at all, which I always thought was odd, but I chalked it up to childhood experiences. I've since learned that child rearing is not the cause, although I'm sure it has some influence.
  My mom was a nurse, and we talked about all sorts of bodily fluids, medical issues, and, frankly, gross stuff while growing up. I developed a full tolerance for it. Similar to you, it just felt like a step on the way to treatment and healing. It does not bother me at all to see it or hear a discussion about it at the dinner table, no matter how gross. But, my brother, who was raised in the exact same circumstances, passes out when he gets stuck with a needle. Every. Time. I know that the response to needles and blood aren't the same as medical procedures, but my point is that people react differently no matter their upbringing.
  Clearly, some people are just made to react that way in emergencies. This is not throwing even a drop of shade at people who have to experience that queasiness, but I'm very grateful that I'm not one of those people. We just react differently.
  Also, I 1000% respect people who work in emergency services. I don't know if you still do it, but you guys have to deal with a lot of horrific injuries and people at the worst moments of their life. You're absolutely essential, and I don't think you get the recognition you deserve. <3

why would you sign up for something like this if you're a goddamn pussy
- It looks like there were warnings in advance too
  Visitors to the adults-only show were alerted in advance to a long list of warnings for potential triggers including incense, loud noises, explicit sexual acts and sexual violence.
  FWIW, I'm a sideshow performer and have been in shows that were exactly like this (though I don't do full nudity or piercing). There's always a content warning at the top of the show. Though I'm surprised (but not) they allowed live sex. Even where I live, which has pretty lenient blue laws, live sex is a hard no.
  Also, this sounds amazing
  The version that unsettled audience members in Stuttgart this year supplanted the original musical performance with naked nuns rollerskating on a movable half-pipe at the centre of the stage, a wall of crucified naked bodies and a lesbian priest saying mass.
  
  How are you supposed to know the priest is a lesbian if they didn't tell you?
- If you've never seen copious amounts of blood before, you might not know you're a goddamn pussy. I didn't know blood would make me queasy until I was trying to clean glass and blood from the floor before my dogs ran in to see the commotion as the skin on the backs of 2 fingers was flapping and undoing all my blood cleanup. It damaged something in my nail base, too, because I have a scar that ends at a permanent ridge in my nail extrusion.
- Why would you shove a toothpick under your toenail and kick the wall as hard as you can if you're a goddamn pussy

Going to the Opera on Saturday, but it probably won't be this much fun. Shame.

People in Stuttgart are too sheltered. In Berlin that wouldn't stand out in an average Friday.
- In New York City, this is just your average subway commute.

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I heard a short interview with the opera houses intendant (if I recall correctly) and he was pretty ~~unphased~~ unfazed by this story. He said that it was not uncommon that a few of the 1400 guests of the opera house get nauseous during a show especially on hot days when air gets stale...
Sounded like he wasn't convinced the nausea during the Santa performance was because of the play itself.
- *unfazed
  "fazed" means "disconcerted or perturbed", just FYI, and I will take my downvotes now
  
  Interesting, never knew.
  Here's another one some people have never realized. Literally is not the same word as literately

I guess there won't be a live-stream?
- Sounds like there already was.

https://www.ndr.de/kultur/buehne/theaterberichte/mecklenburg_vorpommern/Sancta-Oper-in-Schwerin-Spiel-mit-katholischen-Symbolen,sancta102.html
look at this if you wanna know what the opera looks like. The fascinating thing to me is that they apparently put on several shows in Schwerin (predominantly protestsnt town in northern Germany) without much fuss.
- The lady in the bell is where I lost it. Art ("art"?) is fucking weird.

Sounds like a fun time.

Yeah, I'm sure that's accurate and complete information, and not just a shock horror show fishing for attention.

Dafaq am I reading?
- Rage bait

I saw something like this at a goth Burlesque in the PNW, with a cheek piercing. I'm not sure what caused so many people in this performance to feel ill though, I don't see many details.
- I don't see many details.
  They probably saw ALL the details
- Once one person gets sick it’s human instinct to follow up.
  
  Yeah it's probably natural to throw up after you smell the first 10 people's vomit :(
- Maybe all the blood and shit
  
  There was shit??

I guess Germans read about the fate of the Eldar & birth of Slaanesh and took that as an instruction guide.

Is opera not about the maximal? I think such things absolutely require content warnings, but also that sounds like the sort of show I’d attend (and know people who’d perform in)

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and copious amounts of fake and real blood
Where did they use the real blood? I thought theaters avoid it because it's really hard to clean and it coagulates after being exposed to air for a while. (though fake blood is also really expensive from what I've heard)
- I imagine it's probably something to do with the live piercing, which I assume to be hook pulls? Needle play really icks some people out, but I don't know if it would be visible from an opera stage

Sounds like a Genitorturers concert!
- Or a Crash Worship concert.

How do I see or even find out about crazy shows like this?
- Honestly, check with your local alternative community. You probably don’t have anything local, but where the body mod types, performance artists, and bdsm folks interact winds up with shit like thie
  
  Cincinnati?
- Look into regional burns.