Chappell Roan Says She’s “Voting For F@cking Kamala,” But No VP Endorsement & “F@ck Trump, For F@cking Real”

Good... but also I have no idea who that is 👴
- 45 million monthly listeners on Spotify. That is 10 million more than The Beatles right now. 60th overall on the top list of plays just above Michael Jackson. Half the amount of TSwift
  So they are a well known artist.
  
  Reminds me of when I asked who Bad Bunny was
  
  Oh, did the new Beatles album drop?
  
  I mean, using these spotify metrics in comparison with all time greats is kinda flawed.
  For example my band sold just as many tickets as Michael Jackson and the Beatles COMBINED in 2024.
  I am not in a band.
  
  It's really sad to me that modern youths and others tend to only listen to streaming music services, paying subscriptions, listening to ads, not being able to choose what song they hear next.
  Everyone should own some form of permanently usable media with the music they like on it. If bands were still putting out CDs I'd recommend that for long term storage, because my collection from the 90s is still working fine. But with smartphones being the king of all social control now, I'd recommend having MP3s of every song and album you enjoy. Store them in multiple places with backups. I have also been collecting those since the 90s. My music collection is awesome. I have hundreds of CDs and about 10000 MP3s that no corporation can deny me access to.
  The only thing I like about streaming services is discovering new artists. But I don't need it to do that.
- Her music is infectious. Think 80’s Madonna if she were progressive, very lesbian, and even sadder and somehow more vengeful than Alanis Morissette
  
  that's a hell of an endorsement; enough that i went and listened. not my thing. but overall seems chill.
- https://www.npr.org/2024/07/25/g-s1-13100/why-chappell-roan-is-the-perfect-pop-star-for-our-anxious-music-industry
  
  Oh thanks, NPR is really good at dumbing down pop music for me.
- I know of Chappell Roan because she's recently been ruffling people's feathers by asserting boundaries against fans' parasocial weirdness; I've never heard any of her music, but this alone is enough to make me a fan.
  
  She makes decent lesbian focused pop music. It’s fun to sing
- Here's her NPR Tiny Desk Concert
  https://youtu.be/w4WiXKGCJhg
  Edit: her music video for 'Hot To Go' shot in her Missouri hometown https://youtu.be/xaPNR-_Cfn0
  And for the Elton fans, her cover of 'Your Song' https://youtu.be/wslno0wDSFQ

“I just woke up to, like, people just skewing it even more,” Roan said of the reaction to her no endorsement post of Tuesday. “Endorsing and voting are completely different. I don’t agree with a lot of what is going on with, like, policies. Like, obviously, fuck the policies on the right, but also fuck some of the policies on the left. That’s why I can’t endorse.”
“I’m not gonna settle for what the options are that are in front of me, and you are not gonna make me feel bad for that,” Roan added today with a critique of both candidates and their positions, “So yeah, I’m voting for fucking Kamala, but I’m not settling for what has been offered, because that’s questionable.”
- Fucking spot on.
- fuck the policies on the right, but also fuck some of the policies on the left. That’s why I can’t endorse.
  That's a lame take. Unless you personally are running, you're not going to agree with everything a candidate says. Hell, even if you do run you'll probably end up making decisions you're not happy with. Nothing is going to be perfect, that's not the world we live in.
  
  fuck the policies on the right, but also fuck some of the policies on the left. That’s why I can’t endorse.
  That's a lame take. Unless you personally are running, you're not going to agree with everything a candidate says.
  So people should just vote and stfu about any nuance within a party they disagree with?
  Maybe I'm just not picking up what you're putting down, but that's how your comment scans to me.
  
  Also what policies? Like what's the point of feigning a moral stand if you don't define it? If she has legitimate grievances with the Democrats or leftist politics (yes pedants, I know they're different and I'm saying "or" to include both, not to conflate them), then she should voice them. Otherwise she's saying nothing but playing into the bs "both sides" false narrative that enormously benefits the right.
  I think she is absolute right and within her rights to be critical and unenthusiastic about the Democratic options, but without actually offering critique then what is her weak centrist take accomplishing?

Did anyone actually watch the video? She's upset that neither side represent what she deems acceptable.
She's young and doesn't understand that government doesn't get fixed in a day. Where we are is the result of influence from corporate stooges since Reagan. It's come to a boiling point and I understand her frustration. A vote for Harris is a vote for steering the ship towards what she deems is acceptable, but that ship sails slower than a lot people can understand.
- She's not that young, she's been doing music for a decade and working service jobs till now. And you can understand something and still feel it is unacceptable.
  
  She's 26. That's fairly young for a voter. Not really sure what her cv has to do with being considered old.
  
  You're so young that you think doing something for a decade is a long time.
- I agree with the core of what you’re saying except I disagree that she “doesn’t understand” how slowly politics works. I think her decision to vote for Harris anyway speaks to that kind of understanding, else she’d endorse a third-party candidate/write-in in a poor attempt to speed-run democracy.
- She’s young and doesn’t understand that government doesn’t get fixed in a day.
  I'm old and I'm still waiting for the government to be fixed.
  
  Abortion was illegal for 70-120 years depending on the state. It was 50ish years from the progressive era and the beginning of birth control to the ruling of Roe. Overturning roe was a 50 year political project by the right.
  Sometimes it takes a lifetime.
  
  We keep breaking it by voting for Republicans every now and then.
- She's been getting a lot of hate for not endorsing Harris and people fail to realize the difference between endorsing and voting. Her entire point is that the government can't be fixed in a day. Voting for Harris is the obvious choice but her being in office isn't going to magically solve all our problems.
  
  Except, by definition, she is endorsing Harris by publicly supporting her candidacy. Endorse doesn't mean you agree with everything they stand for, but if you are publicly saying who you are voting for, that's an endorsement.
  
  The problem is she's trying to bring nuance to a bumper sticker platform.
- Yeah I get it. I was young once and I’ve even had to have the bitter realization that even Revolution neither happens in a day nor resolves anything quickly. I ask for the passion of the young to hold hands with the wisdom of us older folks. It’s easy to demand sudden change, and important too, but building bases of power are important.
  Vote for Kamala then hold her feet to the fire. Vote in every primary. Discuss what you think with people around you when it comes up, I know I’m the annoying pro trains girl at work. Build the support and make those maga losers afraid to show their faces.
  And entertainers can do so much. Cobain got people who wouldn’t otherwise thinking of homophobia as uncool for example
  
  I know I’m the annoying pro trains girl at work.
  Ugh, train people are the worst. WE GET IT, YOU LIKE TRAINS.
  Edit: I genuinely thought this was a typo and they meant "pro-trans." But maybe they actually did mean "trains."
- Are you significantly older than Chappell Roan? Because I'm imagining you're the one who doesn't understand something.
- Kamala isn't in the correct direction at all though. The democratic party serves to delay progress in favor of the Republican party. There's a reason they lie so much and confuse and refuse to address issues progressive voters want to address. It's not gonna get better unless people stop voting for the same "lesser evil" presented to them and pushed to them in the media.
  
  This is either some wild optimism or accelerationism.
  Gay rights activists got started in the 1970's and in the 80's they got homosexuality taken off the list of mental disorders and in the 90's it looked like Hawaii was going to legalize same sex marriage and then the conservatives took notice and passed the defense of marriage act and Bill Clinton signed it (yes, a Democrat) and then Iowa and Massachusetts courts legalized it at the state level in the 00's and for 10 years we watched court cases and ballot measures go state by state and then in 2014 we got obergefell.
  Republicans did not get us marriage equality, Democrats did. Republicans opposed it at every step. Even obergefel would not have happened if Clinton had not won and picked some SC justices. Clinton had a Republican house and Senate and he was more concerned with avoiding a government shutdown. Defense of marriage act was a Republican bill. Don't ask don't tell was a compromise with Republicans. Obama repealed don't ask don't tell after Dems took the white house and both houses of Congress.
  It matters who is in charge, every year, every election. And the Republican hasn't been the progressive option since teddy Roosevelt left the Republicans to form the bull moose party.
  So acting like we need to punish the Democrats for not opposing netanyahu by electing Republicans is literally throwing Palestinians and poc and queer people and poor people under the bus for your own self rightiousness.
  
  It's not going to get better under Trump either, and your ballot has more choices than President on it. I'm sure you volunteered for local progressive campaigns, right?
  In the American elections you can definitely vote in.

Boomer centrists know what a search engine is, but since Chappell Roan didn't endorse, and voting isn't good enough, so they're like "Who? I never heard of her! She must not be very important if she doesn't agree with me 100% on my terms!"
Centrists can't imagine people being frustrated with their decades of obstruction and sliding to the right.
- I've noticed the blue centrist types love to bully and belittle anyone and anything that doesn't immediately get in line with their idea of a passive reality.
  Who knew building a world around your own personal joy and nothing else makes you not connected to others and the tiredness of those not living it.

- You may not be interested in what any "celebrity" chooses politically, but there are huge groups of (stupid) people who let the people they like/follow dictate their choices.
  As much as the Idiocracy of this is apparent, I don't mind because it may get more people actually involved.
- On the other hand, I very much appreciate knowing which celebrities support an administration that poses a threat to my family. I will not vote for someone based on a celebrity endorsement, but the celebrity may gain or lose my business over it.
  I really liked Kid Rock in his early days. The music was catchy, and it had the right mix of redneck, rock, and rap to make this country boy happy. Now I won't listen to him because he chose to openly throw in with politicians who do not care if their policies and rhetoric kill my friends or kids.
- Politics is now team sports. They just want you on "their team".
  
  Politics is a combination of indoctrination and team sport. If not for indoctrination, the conservative team would have very few players.

I guess I’m officially old because I don’t know who tf this person is or why I should care about her opinion but I keep seeing her name everywhere🤣
- She has a really good queer pop album.
  
  The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess is an incredible piece of work.
- She's like if Kate Bush and Cindi Lauper had a baby..
  https://youtube.com/shorts/hHvetfWOZn0
  
  Ok… that sounds pretty good 🤣
- Are you old enough to understand that acting like something new is beneath you is unbecoming?

WHO IS THIS PERSON
- One of the biggest pop stars currently. Here she is setting the record for largest crowd of all time at Lollapalooza in Chicago this summer.
  https://youtube.com/shorts/UtDLBJGXCGo
  
  Shit, its like Bad Bunny all over again. Had no idea who he was, just to find out he is/was the biggest artist in the world. I fear I may be out of touch.
- starting to get big. you've probably heard her music on the radio recently if you tune into a pop station. she's got some good stuff!
  
  r-radio?
  I’m 45, and even I haven’t listened to radio and at least a decade
- Don't be so proud of your ignorance. Just look it up.

Uh, it’s a ticket. You can’t vote for one and not the other. Walz is implicitly endorsed. I don’t understand what the point of the headline’s distinction is.
- She's voting for Kamala but not endorsing her.
- Yeah, dumb title confused me too. I didn’t care enough to read the article but comments helped me realize “no VP endorsement” means she’s not endorsing Harris, who is the current VP.
  
  Ah. Yeah, I suppose that makes more sense. But also, I feel like the distinction is somewhat pedantic. You’re openly saying you’re voting for them, which is essentially an implied endorsement. That’s not a tortured chain of logic. That’s a pretty direct inference.

She needs to get off the internet. She has more dumbasses and trolls now than she had total fans 2 years ago and she doesn't know how to handle it.
- This was my take on it. She is a big Star, I figured she would have learned to just ignore the fanatics by now. She just comes off so frustrated in the video. We didn’t see Taylor Swift writing up a response every time fans demand it.
  
  Tay sway has been media trained since she was a child. She's a product and she knows it. Roan was playing on a keyboard in the park not that long ago and she hasn't figured out that she will go crazy trying to manage her fame like she is.
- Speak for yourself.

Like, she sounds like, so eloquently spoken and with like, well fucking thought out opinions, like fuuuuck! Im totally picking who she is sort of picking but not picking like wow. For real for real.
- No cap. Frr
- Go shake your fist at the kids in your lawn grandpa.
- How old are you to still be criticizing accents that are older than the vast majority of countries?
  
  Thats not an accent dude that’s just someone who cant string a sentence together without making meaningless interjections every several words. It’s the equivalent of saying uhhhh every uhhhh time you need to uhhhhh think because you uhhhhh didn’t figure out your uhhhhh thoughts before uhhhh spitting them out.

Seems ok for a pop singer..

Who?

It's bizarre that libs got mad at her either now or in the first place. I've heard this bizarre take of "Voting is not an endorsement!" plenty of times on here, and it just means that the person believes in unconditionally supporting the Dems while assuaging their conscience by sending thoughts and prayers to alter reality. Publically saying that you'll vote for someone is an endorsement. It doesn't matter what thoughts you hold on your head unless those thoughts actually impact material reality in some way.

Coolz, coolz. Didn't know who this was before last week, super looking forward to this being the last bit of information I ever learn about them. Way too much look at me im relevant to actually be relevant. Should anyone care what any celebrity endorses?

Liberals: "There is no such thing as Blue MAGA."
Also Liberals: "Why aren't you pledging your undying loyalty to Harris without question just like me?" 😡
She had a very fair and reasonable take. Anyone should be skeptical and voting for Harris to Deny Trump is fine but that doesn't mean there aren't issues. People know the playbook by now material conditions and systematic issues won't get addressed post election.
- Endorsing is not the same as undying loyalty. Seems obvious. But I guess it has to be stated clearly.
  I think it's perfectly fine to criticize anybody who says they'll do everything in their power to support LGBTQ+, and then refuse to endorse Harris (even though she basically has).
  
  No, endorsing isn't the same as voting. Being forced to choose between two shit things is different than being made to reccomend it to someone else
  
  She said she is still voting for her. I wouldn't endorse someone active in genocide and who doesn't match my values as well. I think she was fair and told people to think for themselves. It is good to see a celeb that isn't a yes man for once.
- Issues don't get fixed after election because voters go in thinking it's a four year duty, not a continuous one. The uninformed voter name applies both during election time and between. Vote for the one that has the most potential to change (which means getting more progressive reps in Congress too) and then ride their ass their whole term if they aren't making a difference you like, or if they do what you expect from them let them know they're doing well. They are representatives by title, but they can't represent who they don't hear from.
  So by many factors the above eliminates voting for Trump. This is a no-brainer vote, but the public has to put in some effort after they get people in office too. A big part of this problem is representation number in Congress, we ought to have a smaller rep/population ration than we do. But the other is a public that forgets to pay attention until it becomes a media headline.

I fail to see a reason why I should give a single fuck about what this person thinks about any subject, including music. Get back in the recording booth, and make your little songs. Your opinions are irrelevant.
- I don't care about what she says, but effectively telling her to "shut up and dribble" is an incredibly dumb take.
  
  I disagree, "person tells singer they should stick to singing" seems pretty middle of the road as far as takes go.
- You might not care, but enough of her fans cared enough and were confused by her previous statements that she felt the need to post.
  She's famous enough that her approach to politics is news worthy. Whether you feel that's true or not is immaterial because your just an anonymous rando who isn't capable of influencing the zeitgeist at the scale of a platinum selling recording artist is
  
  You missed the point, no one should care. Celebrity worship is rampant and goes too far. Her being famous enough that her approach to politics being newsworthy is a problem. The relationship between entertainer and entertainee should cease when the last track on the album ends. Her being popular doesn't qualify her to speak on these subjects. It's the same hole that Trump crawled out of.