Thank you so much. We need that more than anything right now — where transphobic content tends to be the default on the web.
If this is the time to go full aggressive for our rights, count me in!
(And if you’re here to passive-aggressively complain about how you « don’t care about people’s sexuality » and making everyone notice you’re leaving — let me be very active-aggressive in saying « good fucking riddance » to you.)
I'm just your run-of-the-mill white cismale dude, but I know several trans people in real life including an old friend of mine and a 7-year-old kid across the street from me. Everyone deserves respect and dignity of life.
Trans people are cool. Love em. Full human rights for everyone, end discrimination. This post, though, is obnoxious though.
Sending edicts out to the public is never the play. Use your sidebar. Moderate stuff. Make it cool to not be a bigot. But the second you start doing goofy shit like this, you're painting a target on your back and coming across way more fragile than you must actually be.
I personally have a policy about blocking any community that has admins who feel it necessary to try to police people's thoughts. As much as bigots piss me off, this isn't how people conduct themselves in a place that purports to be a safe haven. You don't patronize and denigrate the general public out of frustration, unless you want them as an enemy for some reason. The idea you needed you adjust your terminology in retrospect confirms how poorly you wrote your initial message.
Also, I have to say, "We allowed 196 to be here" is a curious statement. What exactly did you allow? Is opening a community a big endeavor? I've opened up a bunch, and never have I felt like I was owed someone for doing it.
Ban bad behavior. Don't try to tell people how to think. We have a word for the latter and it's not pretty.
I don't subscribe to this community but I found your post in the top of my feed. And want people to know, you have my support. I think it's awesome that you're able to build this community.
I'm not going to be aggressive in any online discussion but I am very sensitive to the situation. My brother was a gay man who had lots of difficulties and ultimately took his own life. I will always wonder if society was different, if he'd still be here.
So I will never shy away in real life. I promised the memories of my brother to always be that change that is needed. I will be that cis dude who takes the time to try and change people who show me their bigotry.
I know people in real life who have transitioned. It's a very difficult process and anyone who feels that they need it, they should have access to it. The look of being comfortable in one's own skin afterwards is absolutely observable. I can only do what I can do but you will always have an ally in me.
Remember; not supporting trans rights means you're on the same side as those using laws and judges to strip women of their autonomy around the world. <3
Thank you! I followed 196 over here from Reddit when it moved and I appreciate you reaffirming its principles. I think the move to Lemmy paradoxically gave 196 more visibility to people who don't necessarily agree with those principles because its posts wind up so prominent on All, especially in smaller instances. It's kind of hilarious how many posts I've seen asking why people on Lemmy say "rule" all the time 😂
I'm glad yall posted this but I'm bummed it's no longer "aggressive." Anybody who pretends that the wording of "aggressive support" is concerning is probably afraid of triggering that aggression themselves... and they should be.
Thank you for creating a safe space. I'm an ally to the LGBTQ+ community and am happy there's a space not for "everyone", but for those willing to accept trans folk and silence those against them (while having funny posts on it as well).
I'm here because 196 shows up on my feed and I really enjoy the memes.
I also have absolutely no problem with trans individuals or really any lifestyle anyone wants to live that isn't hurting anyone else.
That said, was there an incident recently on here that spurred the creation of this post? Did something go down?
Edit: Changed "bothering" to "hurting" because I frankly don't give a fuck about the feelings of the type of people that are "bothered" by LGBT+.
Joining most of the people here in saying, "Huh, what community?" I'm not against trans people, and I despise bigots, but I'm not a part of your community either.
To be honest I don't care to be part of any federated community that defines itself by what it won't tolerate, grow up and use the block feature.
Just read the post that started this all. I thought that hating a person for having a sexual preference that doesn't agree with you, it's exactly what the queer community was fighting against.
Well you do you. Plus demanding aggressive support only is in really poor taste.
Great job making a meme thread into political crap.
Yes, let's burn down everything because I don't agree with a part of it.
Trans rights are human rights. Trans people's existence doesn't get to be dictated on other's whims, or have their validity be aproved by other's checklists. Trans people get to live and be respected. Dismissing someone's right to live that literally is just trying to exist peacfully just because you don't feel like treating them as a human being says everything.
I want to have trans people feel safe in their environments,whichever that is (online or irl), and we can't achieve that unless we're vocal, straightfoward and fierce in our activism for trans rights. Because trans rights are human rights. Thank you for being here and being a part of this community.
I don't "aggressively support" squat. I do stand up for life, liberty,and the pursuit of happiness. Someone being trans does not affect anyone's life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness until they get aggressive.
Curious question, what made 196 so popular in the trans community? I have always seen some trans memes on Reddit, but it seems the ratio is even higher here (and some anti police stuff, idk I'm not american).
Is it because this is a place you can express yourself freely on the web, or is there something more to it?
As far as I know the original subreddit this com came from was very trans, to the point where I, as a cis straight ally, was nervous that I was somehow not supposed to be in it. And I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one.
So I'm witchu
I must have good filters or something, because I don't think I've noticed any TP / TERFing in here. Sad.
(of course i follow from a mastodon account so i probably miss a lot of stuff)
I'll be honest I think alienating people feeling in the middle is a bad idea, making an echo chainber is ehat those other websites are for, and people on the middle ground are the ones whose beliefs matter the most as they they are the only ones that will change things.
Personally, I don't think about other people's sexuality all that much, so I guess that makes me a non-aggressive supporter.
It's weird to impose this type of stuff, but I respect that this is your little space on the internet, so I'm leaving, as you asked. Thank you for the smiles and laughs.
Lemmy is in a weird state. I appreciate not seeing casual homophobia/transphobia in mainstream places like 196, but they're also not exactly inclusive of actual out-and-grown-up queer people, and there aren't enough people here yet for actual safe places to exist. I posted a comment self-referentially calling myself (a trans woman ) a "f-----" or something, and it got downvoted and deleted. This was a problem on reddit, where transphobes would report trans people for using self-referential slurs, and tone deaf reddit admins would ban their accounts. Now it seems like we're going to do it again here.
FUCK YES! I'm so glad to see this, the comments on some of those posts recently just gave such an ick feeling. Fuck transphobes. All hail glorious blahaj!
Not from this instance and not a contributor to this community, but just wanna say great job.
Protecting the ideals of your instance is definitely a worthy goal, and I definitely include trans people in the category of people who get shit on undeservedly from on high and deserve way better.
I still have no idea how these communities are set up structurally. That said I'm quite pleased to see this as the community baseline. Stumbling into inclusivity is the best kind of stumbling.
Not on your instance but it's so good to see unequivocal inclusion and support for the trans community. There should be no room for bigotry of any kind.
Hi! Trans person here. Your heart is in the right place, but this post is poorly written. You haven't even given examples of how this is currently/could be applied. Some people are just that uneducated about trans people. If they're leading questions that invalidate us, sure. But otherwise what's the harm? For 196 there's no reason to ask about that stuff but the whole instance?? Your call in the end but I can think of a few ways this could go bad just from prior experience in other communities.
Maybe you dont want to be on all if this is your stance
Edit. The tone above is not hostile or pithy. I thought there was a dont show this community on all option. I have been informed that it isnt a toggle or opt out feature.
if you've found a few legitimately bad actors here, then ban them and move on. don't burn the place down.
when i see someone from one space advise about how to safely access procedures or drugs that are illegal in some country, and then i tab to 196 to see that same person on the receiving end of the most harshly worded accusations of transphobia, i'm sort of at a loss for how to respond to that.
I have a feeling that this has a lot of room for individual interpretation.
I’m aware that the world out there is insanely hostile towards trans-people, it’s just that… asking things about the LGBTQ+ -communities consensus or what the thoughts on the scientific community are… feels kinda like a minefield tbh.
Sorry, but I do need to ask a verry sticky question, thats because I need info about those who attacks our community. If I am in the wrong place, please show me where I can post.
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The videos that are cited on the news constantly for "corrupting the youth with trans ideology", where are they from and are they real? they never cites sources.
Edit: its good to see a community like traaaans on lemmy, a place thats accessable to me, reddit needing the that much personal info put me off.