A robot begins removal of melted fuel from the Fukushima nuclear plant. It could take a century
A robot begins removal of melted fuel from the Fukushima nuclear plant. It could take a century
Wall-E, is that you?
Such a fantastic movie, I need to watch it again
This is what we need AI for. Robots that can independantly handle this type of task that is too dangerous for humans.
Fuck the generative garbage we have now. Work on this stuff instead.
But where's the money in that?
"Our shareholders insist the line must go up!"
GenAI is getting better and better
Generative AI, as it is being built right now, is a dead-end. It won't get much better than it currently is (markedly worse once the next-gen is forced to scrape data that includes AI generated data) and hallucinations are always going to be the reality for them.
It's why there's this big push over the last couple of years to get these products to market. Not because you're going to corner some burgeoning industry (though the hype definitely is designed to look like that), but because this is a grift now and you have to get the goods while there's still goods to get. Need to recoup those R&D dollars somehow.
It's okay because as the radiation blasts away at the robots circuitry they'll have to replace it. Then they could just replace it with a better robot every few years as technology improves. It'll become exponentially more powerful. And by the end of it they'll have a superpowered radioactive robot... that they've... used for slave labor... Huh. Maybe they should rethink this plan.
The Soviets never sent humans into the reactor to remove melted core material. The remains of the Chernobyl No. 4 core are still there inside the sarcophagus, and I don't think anyone was making serious plans to remove them even before the Ukraine war got in the way.
(The job that got so many Soviet workers exposed was moving solid radioactive debris from the exploded core so that the initial containment sarcophagus could be built and the other three reactors on the site restarted. Nothing comparable was required at Fukushima because the explosions there didn't breach any of the cores, thus no chunks of highly radioactive graphite to shovel off the roofs. I understand that the Soviets did try robots, but radiation isn't good for electronics and, well, it was Soviet equipment in 1986—they just weren't very effective.)
They actually tried using a West German state of the art police robot but it failed. IIRC it still sits broken on the roof to this day.
Because they're going to use specialized cranes to pull that shit out and bury it over the next 100 years (special military operation pending). It was installed with the New Safe Confinement. The entire point of the NSC was to protect the site from disturbance and collapse while they waited for it to be safe enough to disassemble the plant.
Weren't there so old people that volunteered for some cleanup jobs, reasoning they had less life left than you get people so the cancer would not get to them in time.
I think I remember reading something like that.
Yeah but that's for much less radioactive areas. These robots are going places that would make a human die badly.
the "liquidators" served about 2 minutes of time doing cleanup service at chernobyl. This was how they mitigated a lot of the radiation risk, the people that suffered the most were the people in nearest proximity, reactor personnel for example.
because putting people in those buildings is sketchy, and the serve almost zero static concern, especially with modern survey robots and technology that allows us to very easily analyze this stuff without having to set foot near it.
Nobody had a faster robot?
Those robots are now stuck within the power plant.
didn't this happen like 4 years ago?
Maybe we should chip in and buy a second robot.
Hear me out: three robots.
With more than one, a union can be formed. So, no.
It may take a century not because of robot costs, but because the materials haven't decayed enough to store in a dry cask.
This is getting out of hand