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Most posts on Lemmy aren't about vegans. Are you obnoxiously bringing veganism everywhere with you and wondering why people react negatively?
I use Arch btw
- deleted by creator such a Lemmy thing to say.
- I'm not vegan, and the posts aren't aimed at me. Just have a look at c/lemmyshitpost
  
  c/lemmyshitpost
  The clue is in the name.
  
  I don't think you understand that, like always with the same old small minority of vegans that go out there being cruel to people, these posts are reactive to recent poor behaviour. For this reason, it's unusual for anyone to empathise with these types of people, regardless of ideology, unless you are in defence of their antagonising of others; which is fine, just don't be surprised by the ongoing discourse not being in favour of that position.

I love chicken, pork, and beef. I have tried the meat alternatives and I like most of what I have tried. I would be vegetarian if it honestly wasn't so expensive sometimes. Not to say meat isn't also expensive.
I work with a guy who is a vegan and honestly. I don't get the hate towards the life style. Guy is as healthy as they get and morally more sound in the area of food than I am.
What am I missing on Vegan hate or even vegetarian hate. No one imposes on me. Honestly, I feel like they have something figured out I dont.
- There is a small vocal minority that essentially equates anyone who keeps eating meat regardless of circumstances, preference or nuance, [to killers, murderers, etc]. Honestly a large amount of people would take a vegan option if it tasted the same, had the same texture, was as cheap or cheaper than meat, was as accessible, and didn't require learning a new skill set. There's also the availability when eating out.
  Antagonizing people like that is a good way to have them disagree out of spite, and the militant vegans always have a way of inserting themselves into every conversation. I had to block people on lemmy because I just didnt want to deal with that here.
  Unfortunately a vegan who is a good person isn't alwayd out there proselytizing at every chance they get in a non intrusive manner, so people rarely if ever see vegans who are reasonable people relative to vegan extremists.
  
  Keyword is small. It’s important not to extrapolate against a populace based on the actions of their extremist or reactionary members.
  
  Unfortunately a vegan who is a good person isn't alwayd out there proselytizing at every chance they get in a non intrusive manner,
  That's the thing imo, if a vegan is alwayd out there proselytizing at every chance they get then they are by default not a good person even if they do it in a supposed non intrusive manner and are by default vegan extremists imo. Proselytizing is in and of itself intrusive by definition imo, like ads.
  
  Honestly a large amount of people would take a vegan option if it tasted the same, had the same texture, was as cheap or cheaper than meat, was as accessible, and didn't require learning a new skill set.
  And businesses would stop burning fossil fuels if renewables had the same portability, same output, were cheaper, available everywhere, and didn't require learning a new skill set. They can still be criticised for doing so, I'm not sure what your point here is?
- Mostly bandwagon hate because of a vocal minority. TBH I find it amusing the people who really ride it act just like they are complaining about.
  Also strict diets require more nutritional knowledge that some seem to be lacking.
- The vegan hate likely comes from people who dont really know vegans or only know them from the internet so they only know the vocal minority
  
  I know several vegans and they're all cool. The terminally online militant ones suck.
  
  Oh, I've met some annoying ones in real life.
- Everyone who keeps posting this ignores that there has been vegan cat food for years, supplemented with necessary vitamins etc and backed up with scientific research. They didn't make it up out of thin air as you seem to be implying. Sceptism or disagreement is fine. Painting the other side as lunatics is not.
- They are a small, harmless minority. Isn't that enough? Maybe it's made worse by the fact that they are perceived as non-violent and effeminate, because of their strong opposition to suffering, even when the victims are helpless, like animals. There is no personal risk in bullying them. It's like the hate for environmental activists, trans-women, or liberals in general. I wouldn't know that vegans aggressively proselytize their life-style if people didn't aggressively tell me so; something that they share with "the gays". Of course, people wouldn't mind if they didn't shove it in their faces all the time. Where have I heard that before?
  
  The vocal minority of gays don't call me a murderer for liking women.
  
  Animals massively outnumber us. It's not our fault they are cowards and can't organize a rebellion properly.
- I don’t hate vegans in general. I hate it when they prostelytize at me and try to shame me into being vegan. And this it the problem many people have. There is a vocal minority of vegans that will attack others for not sharing their lifestyle (I’m looking at you, PETA). I have no interest in giving up meat. I will pick more sustanable meat sources sure, but i will not be attacked for my choices.
  Don’t come after me, I won’t come after you. I likely will even try to bring a vegan option to a pot luck for you.
  
  I mean, that's kind of saying you're going to delibrately drive a Hummer because it 'fits your lifestyle', and then getting annoyed when people point out it's incredibly wasteful and dangerous. There's a certain point where you have to acknowledge reality, yah?

And then someone makes a meta post like this, restarting the cycle

Shitposting sub might not be the best place if you don't like people taking the piss
- It's not called pissposting
  
  Take the piss, leave the shit
  
  Yeah, !pissposting@lemmy.world is a completely separate thing.
  
  Taking a shit without pissing is a rare talent
- "The point is to be annoying!"
  How's that working out for y'all IRL?

It's because the cat food thing is such a stupid hill to die on. Like if you wanted to engineer a viral marketing campaign to make vegans look dumb, you could not have done a better job.
- I believe you, it was a meat industry bot campaign. Thank you for opening my eyes.
  
  I would actually believe it if those vegan users dgaf about being vegan and are just trolls using a controversial topic.

I do agree the joke has run it's course, as funny as it was.
- Indeed, everyone certainly made a meal of it.
  
  Yeah but some of them had to take supplements as well after
  
  At this point we really need some fresh meat
- Well, which course though?
- Attacking the marginalized is never funny.
  
  Lmao vegans aren't "marginalized"
  That word does not mean what you think it means.
  
  It's fine, I'm 1/4th vegan myself

Sounds like something a vegan would say 🤔
- Ha , gottem
- Isn't it funny how meatheads act like they pretend vegans act all the time?
  
  Sounds like something a meathead would say 🤔

Iirc all the recent hate is focused on vegans who think obligate carnivores can be turned vegan.
Don't abuse your pets or just maybe don't have pets at all.
- Obligate Carnivore is a great band name.
- Everyone who keeps posting this ignores that there has been vegan cat food for years, supplemented with necessary vitamins etc and backed up with scientific research. They didn't make it up out of thin air as you seem to be implying. Sceptism or disagreement is fine. Painting the other side as lunatics is not.
  
  Pssh everyone knows the only correct diet for a cat is their natural one: giant ocean predators (salmon and tuna) and corn-fed livestock. All mixed up with preservatives and taurine and ash, just like their mawmaw cats used to make!
- I remember when this was just a joke on Futurama. Why does life imitate art in the dumbest way possible‽
- What vegan thinks you can turn a cat vegan? That's like thinking you can turn a cat hegelian or something.
- it's possible we're facing a future in which meat is not sustainable and we won't want to spare any for cats, it's something worth studying

- On my instance a guy opened a community where he posted cooking recipes he liked. There was a vegan that complained that they contained meat. The vegan got a lot of deserved flak for that. Even from other vegans.
- Every platform needs a terrible meme that never goes away. Reddit picked a shoebox full of semen, we picked cat starvation.

guys I’m new to Lemmy and all I see are references to some began shit and beans. What the fuck was happening?
- Vegans really like beans and Lemmy also really likes beans. But not in a began way so they started fighting. There were some riots and a lot of beans were murdered. It was sad.
  
  We disagree on why beans are great
- Some vegans got into a fight over cat food. Whether or not you agree that cats can be fed with vegan alternatives, it's still just cat food.
- The beanposting is unrelated to the vegan drama, Lemmy just really likes beans. It was one of our first home-grown memes
  
  And that "no poop challenge" that was everywhere on lemmy about a year ago. Not sure whether that was a lemmy thing or wider, as I don't use anything besides lemmy.
  I'm glad a local culture is growing here naturally, but I didn't expect it to be beans, jeans and no poop
  
  Yeah. I was gonna make some vegan bean soup tomorrow but now I've decided to add bacon.
- A bunch of vegans said they feed their pets only vegan food, whilst they are carnivores. Mod stopped the conv to prevent animal abuse.
  Some Vegans got angry.
  I agree with mods, last thing we need here are echo chambers for dangerous information
- I've been here the whole time and I don't know what the fuck is going on nor have I seen much of it. Now people complaining about it happening? Oh yeah, I've seen heaps of that.

Go shove a carrot in it, vegan.
- Don't threaten me with a good time.
  
  Not with this year's weather
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- I'm not vegan

It's almost as if people have nothing better to do than to be keyboard warriors online.

Lololol something something dog food

I thought they were leaving and going to one of the tankie instances now that their banning of anyone who questions their misinformation to preserve the pure thought of their echo bunker has been exposed.

Vegans are like linux users, they dont shut the fuck up ever.

Stop insisting people have the right to torture animals.
Edit: Seems lemmy is worse at context than reddit ever was.
Feeding cats and other obligate carnivores a vegan diet is torture the same way feeding humans a sawdust only diet would be.
- I'm...not?
  
  Defends vegans. Immediately gets shit on by militant vegans.
  That's why people shit on them so much by the way. They're incapable of simply not.
- By forcing vegan diets on cats?
- idk what you're on about, they literally defended vegans.

Such gas lighting. Vegans and Liberals do everything they accuse the Right of doing.
- you can leave
  
  Nope. Too much fun being here.
- Thanks for the chuckle

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