/Politics starts banning any mention of the Democrats complicity in the Genocide in Gaza
With the elections nearing and the Biden-Harris administration still being complicit in Genocide there is but one way for crocodile tear liberals to fix the issue: Start banning anyone who comments about the Biden administration being complicit in Genocide.
/Politics mod JordanLund who also mods /WorldNews decides Biden has nothing to do with the Genocide in Gaza
JordanLund banned users in the past for questioning israel's right to exist. JordanLund now takes it one step further and is now spreading misinformation about israel not running out of weapons without American support so Biden and Harris are "not complicit in Genocide":
I link him a guardian article proving he is lying(JordanLund has deleted my comment which just quoted a Guardian article debunking his lies):
Recent reports in the Israeli press make clear that because of a global shortage of ammunition that started with the Ukraine war, Israel would not be able to sustain its bombardment of Gaza without the US resupplying the Israeli military.
JordanLund responds by calling TheGuardian misinformation, promptly bans me and says he supports the "rightful defense of israel".
He also piles on more lies and claims the only weapons being sent by Biden are Interceptor missiles which are "misappropriated by israel for the use in Genocide"?
FYI, readers of /politics are very familiar with Linkerbaan and his nonstop hammering of a single wedge issue from a single narrow viewpoint. To be honest, I believe the mod made the correct choice.
I suspect he will jump on any procedural or technical issue that he thinks he can find with the mod log, etc, and at no point discuss his own position, motivation, interest in the matter, or any other facet of his participation that indicates that he is a good faith community member. I suspect this will come with personal attacks, ad hominem arguments, insults, and false attribution of other community members beliefs (including calling them, racist or genocidal) instead of addressing his own behavior.
Making personal attacks against people who agree that it's a big deal but say that voting third party is counterproductive, though, is hammering a wedge issue from a narrow viewpoint.
Tho problem for me isn't viewing the genocide as bad. I am in full agreement there. The problem is the response to people who disagree about the most effective way to stop it.
Pointing out someone's patterns of behaviour on a thread they started about their own behaviour is not an ad hominem attack. It's an on-topic discussion of the point at hand.
Calling someone who agrees that an ongoing genocide is dreadful but believes the suggested course of action will make it worse a genocide enabler, on the other hand, is an ad hominem.
You believe that i should be permabanned from politics for linking an article saying israel would have ran out of weapons if not for Joe Biden resupplying them because that's "misinformation"?
FYI readers, Aubeynarf is also a frequent poster on /Politics. You can guess what type of "nuanced viewpoint" he posts.
No, but banning someone for questioning Israel's right to exist is reasonable, since that's advocating for genocide.
I can see someone eventually getting fed up with the one-sided narrative, and it's true that Israel would not actually have ran out of weapons. We are not the exclusive supplier to Israel, simply the most convenient for them. They are capable of domestic manufacture and purchasing from other entities.
You were banned for repeatedly saying Joe Biden and now Kamala Harris are personally responsible for the genocide being committed by Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu.
You want to make it sound like Biden and Harris are out there personally pulling the triggers dropping bombs.
NONE of that is true and I gave you extraordinarily free rein in both World News and Politics.
But when you went off calling Harris "The Vice President of a Genocide" and then doubled down again and again, that was the end for you.
You're passionate on a topic that we both agree on, but your passion has taken you off the deep end into conspiracy theory bullshit and nonsense.
You really should focus more on holding Israel accountable for Israel's actions... like snipers killing kids:
Israel has been committing war crimes in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon and Syria for DECADES before Biden and Harris held political office. They are not to blame here, Israel is. Bibi is. Their crimes will continue regardless of support from the US or who is President.
Blame the actual perpetrators, not those you imagine are involved via six degrees of separation.
While I do think that Biden is complicit in a genocide, I also think Linkerbaan is a bad-faith actor who repeatedly violates not just community rules, but the rules of lemmy.world as a whole. I've written a longer comment about it elsewhere.
You deleted my linked articles for "misinformation" and are now retroactively making up lies to justify your defense of a Genocide. But I'm glad you're admitting that mentioning the Democrats complicity in the Genocide in Gaza is a bannable offense on Lemmy.World/Politics and /WorldNews.
Blame the actual perpetrators, not those you imagine are involved via six degrees of separation.
Yeah don't blame the Biden administration sending the F35's, 14000 2000 pound bombs, Jet fuel, interceptor missiles and running diplomatic cover in and outside of the UN going as far as pressuring other countries to deploy troops in Gaza for israel.
Let's see what employees of the Biden adminstration have to say about it
US has 'undeniable complicity' in Gaza war killings, say former US officials: A dozen former U.S. government officials who quit over U.S. support for Israel's war in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday accused President Joe Biden's administration of "undeniable complicity" in the killing of Palestinians in the enclave.
In a joint statement, opens new tab, the 12 former government officials said the administration was violating U.S. laws through its support for Israel and finding loopholes to continue shipping weapons to its ally.
Never Play Defense (instead of defending themselves against the claims, they jump immediately to attacks)
Control the Conversation (instead of addressing their own behaviour, they try to pivot back to the very topics that got them banned)
Their actions match strongly with those of a bad faith contributor who focuses on a single topic (the genocide in Palestine) on one particular side (anti-genocide) whilst advocating for actions that many (including myself) have pointed out would, in fact, lead to the opposite result. When others point this out, what they get in return isn't a nuanced discussion of these concerns, but rather personal attacks that I believe qualify as repeated violations of rule 1.1 of lemmy.world.
You should absolutely be banned from all of Lemmy, because you're obviously not arguing in good faith ever.
But instead of that, mods kowtow to your whining and you're not banned from much, if anything, ever. They even reverse bans which were an appropriate response to your toxicity. You get people banned or their comments deleted when they call you out.
It's like Facebook where tone is policed but intent is ignored. A lot of people see that you're doing bad shit and no one is stopping you. You whine about every little response to your toxicity.
I'm sure you totally won't claim that I'm a Zionist or genocide supporter/enabler, because that's totally not your response to all disagreement or criticism /s
I'm also sure you won't make a weird claim about me being a "stalker" because I once said I have questioned myself in thinking you post so much and as a result, checked your profile /s
I think you're crazy, and you need to get off the internet and touch grass. Jesus christ. Just, idk ? Move on with your fucking life? You're internet comments do nothing and help nothing for your 'cause'.
The emotional unhingement on some of y'all lemmy users is seriously concerning.
Like, someone needs to call the dam police on y'all, cause this extremist nonsense here, I feel as though someone as delusional as yourself, is going to do something stupid to hurt people.
You're getting government watch list type of attention.
The centralization issue around Lemmy.World is starting to become a bigger issue now the mods are actively censoring any opinion which does not match their own.