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#StopKillingGames Update: Sweden and Poland pass threshold as initiative reaches 25%

geteilt von: https://feddit.org/post/1854600

I'm not going to post an update every time a (small) milestone is reached, but i felt this time it was warranted.

Sweden and Poland both passed their respective thresholds. That brings us to 3 out of 7 countries where we need to pass the threshold. We are also past 25% of the one million signatures needed continent-wide.

Thank you to everyone who already signed.

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  • This Initiative is taking of like a space rocket. I actually like how much Attention it gets with several news outlets writing about it.

  • Denmark, Netherlands and Germany all reasonably close.

    Here's a pic of the full list of countries and their completion levels for anyone else curious:

    edit: Not sure why that's showing up so small for me. You may need to right click -> open image in new tab.

  • A few days ago I saw a thing from Thor (Pirate Software) about how this initiative is pretty half baked. Has that chagned or other people with a horse in the race voiced their opinions? Ive only seen the two. (The initiatives sumbitters video and Thors)

    Dumb american here, trying to wrap my head around this because it sounds good on paper, and if it suceedes it may be good to do on this side of the pond, but im still trying to form an imformed opinion.

    • I'm not sure which of the videos of Ross (the initiator of the initiative) you have seen, but in the FAQ video linked above he addresses the half baked complaint. An EU citizens initiative is not the equivalent of a ballot initiative in the USA. It's not actual proposed law, not even a first draft of a law. A citizens initiative only describes a problem and why the EU is the right institution to solve the problem (rather than the individual member states). And it does all of that while meeting a strict word count limit. So it kind of has to be vague to give the European politicians some space to do their job. They are going to consult relevant parties (including representatives of the industry) and then draft the actual legal text.

      I therefore find Thors argument of "it starts the wrong discussion" pretty disingenuous because he argues for weakening the initiatives initial position before negotiations with the opposing side have even begun.

      His videos are also full of frankly baffling arguments. At one point he argues for example that the initiatives goals would make DDOSing legal.

      Since Thors original video a couple of people in the games industry have come forward in support of the initiative. Indie dev and unity tutorial YouTuber codemonkey for example made a video to that effect. But the highest profile supporter from within the industry so far is probably Running With Scissors, the studio behind the Postal games. Also high profile, but not actually a game dev, is Louis Rossman, who also endorsed the effort.

      There have been some people, who support Thors line of arguments, but those tend as far as I can tell to be mostly friends and acquaintances of Thor. Generally speaking i have yet to see a European content creator critical of the initiative (not saying there aren't any, just that they don't seem high profile enough to come to my attention).

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